Indian Navy and its 5th Gen Fighter jet dilemma

[mad_max]

find @ Indian Defence Section! easily available...

I can see you are having constant dose of it , where you got it from Afghanistan ?

 

[Rank]

I can see you are having constant dose of it , where you got it from Afghanistan ?

na from Eastern border told ya easily available... on PDF you can find @ Indian Defence section.. easily available infact free of cost

 

[danger007]

This is what btw Indian public perception not world. Pakistan btw into International Conflicts n collaborations more than India. Its not a topic but what i understand from your posts is you don't even understand my point nor you understand what is the meaning of international engagements from military to military. Secondly, topic is not Pakistan navy lol all the time drag Pakistan navy in Indian naval discussion is like .... mine is better than yours debate. What do you think we dont know whata is Pakistan navy ? or we don't aware about how many Aircraft carriers, frigates, destroyers etc Pakistan Navy have ?

Stay on the topic if you have answer of opposition party question, feel free to answer.

If you took my post regarding engagements of military to military, India is no where in that. Read the GURU DUTT post carefully.



elaborate

I believe you expressed your perception...

Our concern is to protect our interests... not to fight others war for freebies... ( You mentioned it in your previous posts)... you been one of US allies nothing else... it's not that you fought for afghan or Iran and you won.. it is USA who is mastermind... you can feel proud, when you defended your interests in international stage....


I understood your point of view.... but you don't get what i mean...


Yes topic is about Indian navy.. but you bring Pak army into the thread which supposed to discuss about IN and induction of 5th gen fighter..


You already moved away from the topic... now you are blaming me.... lolz

 

[amriRDX]

I suggest we go with N-AMCA . By this way we'll speed up development in following ways:-
1) Navy will also allocate funds for development for AMCA. This will renew the vigour of DRDO HAL ADA.
2) Navy is known to actively participate in development. This might also give some piece of mind to IAF and they may also become active in its flight testing and also in every phase of development.
3) More Funds means speedy development. And since it is required by both the arms of the Tri services it will be given priority in development.

For China, Indian Aircraft Carrier is easy target and which is damn big loss for any navy if their Carrier Sunk along with other protecting frigates/destroyers etc

You think IN will be sleeping when chinese Navy comes to sink a ACC. More over I think there is a term called CBG which has got escorts.
But by going by your logic even Chinese carriers can be sunk

This is what btw Indian public perception not world. Pakistan btw into International Conflicts n collaborations more than India. Its not a topic but what i understand from your posts is you don't even understand my point nor you understand what is the meaning of international engagements from military to military. Secondly, topic is not Pakistan navy lol all the time drag Pakistan navy in Indian naval discussion is like .... mine is better than yours debate. What do you think we dont know whata is Pakistan navy ? or we don't aware about how many Aircraft carriers, frigates, destroyers etc Pakistan Navy have ?

Stay on the topic if you have answer of opposition party question, feel free to answer.

If you took my post regarding engagements of military to military, India is no where in that. Read the GURU DUTT post carefully.

elaborate

Well world's perception matches with the Indian Public perception to be true. Don't know what's your perception. But on a lighter note a Typical madarssa graduate's perception is always way different than the rest of the world.

On Topic:
By Finest ships means INS Kolkata, INS Shivalik, INS Kamrota , etc. By finest a/c he meant Mig-29K. If not the world's most baddass but enough to keep any Navy in IOR at bay and give its military commanders many sleepless nights planning to tackle them.

Feel free to believe but ignorance and denial sometimes keep a person in happiness that at the moment you in. (Y)

 

[surya kiran]

India neva till now become International player... always talk but stay btw Indian interests circle only. Pakistan always btw into International players & powers and btw International conflicts. India's till now only ambition is just to protect India's coastal line that's all not like regional or global powers. Pakistan has massive experience and involvements/work with global powers in terms of military to military engagements comparatively India. Infact India is no where in that perspective.

The objective of Indian naval expansion is not to engage China or for that matter any single country. It is to ensure that India dominates the IOR, Arabian and Bay of Bengal region over the next 30 years. If and when there is a re-alignment of the USN to the Pacific, there is only one other navy which has a remote capability or what you could call a Navy in this area. That is Iran.

Our aim is to ensure, that, in case of any perceived threat to Indian interests the IN will intervene with full force. Let me give you an example. Assume Kargil happens again. The Indian establishment is aware land war is out of question. Air war is not going to make too much of a difference. Where does the next front occur? Its the sea. Why do you think both PN and IN are ramping up. The IN is aware that PN's only strength is the submarine force. Hence, the huge investments in the ASW areas with planes and sensors. But even this is purely defensive in nature. If there has to offensive capabilities you will need CBGs with SSN and SSG.

If you see it from the above perspective, it makes sense why the IN is ramping up at the rate at which it is. People talk about the 3 IN CBGs Vishal, Vikrant and Vikramaditya. They tend to forget there are 4 LPDs coming in and there is the Jalashwa. Not to mention the Kolkata class destroyers operating with the Talwar and Shivaliks.

The objective is to inflict pain on any country which will threaten Indian interests. The messaging will be that any neighbouing country which needs relief during disasters will be provided the same swiftly by the IN. The hard punch with a soft touch.

 

[SR-91]

India neva till now become International player... always talk but stay btw Indian interests circle only. Pakistan always btw into International players & powers and btw International conflicts. India's till now only ambition is just to protect India's coastal line that's all not like regional or global powers. Pakistan has massive experience and involvements/work with global powers in terms of military to military engagements comparatively India. Infact India is no where in that perspective.

Read n then reread the history my friend, India has always been a international player throughout its history.

 

[Rank]

I believe you expressed your perception...

Our concern is to protect our interests... not to fight others war for freebies... ( You mentioned it in your previous posts)... you been one of US allies nothing else... it's not that you fought for afghan or Iran and you won.. it is USA who is mastermind... you can feel proud, when you defended your interests in international stage....


I understood your point of view.... but you don't get what i mean...


Yes topic is about Indian navy.. but you bring Pak army into the thread which supposed to discuss about IN and induction of 5th gen fighter..


You already moved away from the topic... now you are blaming me.... lolz

lol I bring Pakistan military in terms of participation in international conflicts or military to military global issue like Arab, Asia etc where as you neva seen india in any international issue whether Ukrain, Arab Conflicts or issue, Asia's except South and East Asia, nor even in European or Africa related. So what is the purpose of AC's so in that perspective I was talking about Pakistan involvement and Indian involvement in global issues.

 

[Storm Force]

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[danger007]

lol I bring Pakistan military in terms of participation in international conflicts or military to military global issue like Arab, Asia etc where as you neva seen india in any international issue whether Ukrain, Arab Conflicts or issue, Asia's except South and East Asia, nor even in European or Africa related. So what is the purpose of AC's so in that perspective I was talking about Pakistan involvement and Indian involvement in global issues.

what ever it is... why do we need to fight for someone.. when we have troubles in next door... we are not pakistan.. to give up importance to economy.. I don't know what you are feelling proud in it.. US providing weapons and you are fighting their war.. Arab conflict - we don't have interest...
Ukrain not our cup of tea... European??? we have better or more influence than pakistan... same goes for africa...

 

[Arya Desa]

If ever IN opts for a fifth generation fighter aircraft it will most probably be Pak-Fa

India will never adopt a pakistani jet!!!!!!!

 

[Luca1]

India will never adopt a pakistani jet!!!!!!!

How is PAKFA a Pakistani jet?

 

[migflug]

How is PAKFA a Pakistani jet?

Cause it will be renamed FGFA

 

[MAJESTICAL]

Congrats India and Good Luck But hope we both Pakistan and India never use these weapons against each other...

 

[KAL-EL]

Congrats India and Good Luck But hope we both Pakistan and India never use these weapons against each other...

It's always refreshing to see some rationality on PDF

 

[MAJESTICAL]

It's always refreshing to see some rationality on PDF

Im just being logical, any one with a brain knows war isnt and shouldnt be the first priority...it should be peace.