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Indian Kalwari: Strong Rebuttal by Pakistan Navy

 Pakistan Navy intercepts latest Kalvari class Indian submarine

Pak Navy claimed to have warded off an Indian Submarine, Kalwari on 1st March 2022. The activity was intercepted by Pakistan’s Anti-Submarine warfare. Pakistan Navy with its unrelenting vigilance and professional capability has once again thwarted the Indian attempt of entering Pakistan’s waters by spotting and gridlocking one off the latest Kalvari class Indian submarine despite having low-tech gadgets and minute standard of tracking. This reflects the unremitting vigilance and professional competence of the Pakistan Navy to safeguard the maritime frontiers of Pakistan vis-à-vis deplorable Indian maneuvers.

Ocean space is unarguably vast and the maritime interests of nations are widely dispersed. It is virtually impossible to monitor large swathes of ocean round the clock much less respond to activities that might endanger legitimate national or international maritime interests. Likewise, detection of a submerged submarine is not an easy proposition, even for the most advanced navies. And, this is even more demanding in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR), where the depth-temperature profile of the sea vis-à-vis sound waves’ travel allows the enormous opportunity for a subsurface vessel to maintain its discretion. Yet, chance incidents could make the submarine detection and track possible but that requires a considerable focus, alertness, and sound professionalism.
Nevertheless, Pakistan Naval Forces proved their vigilance & competence by detecting/blocking Indian submarines from entering Pakistani waters. The recent incident being the fourth detection in the last 5 years is the reflection of the Pakistan Navy’s competence and resolve to defend the maritime frontiers of Pakistan. Seemingly, the Indian Kalvari class submarine was on an intelligence-gathering mission for ascertaining the Pak navy strategies, however, it got knocked by the Pak navy tracking system when it came to a snorkeling depth for charging the batteries.

The possibility of an Indian submarine, loitering into Pakistan’s waters, for gathering the military information and to have an eye over the ongoing Pakistan Navy Exercise SEASPARK-22 was already anticipated. ISPR chief has said that “Therefore, strict monitoring watch and stringent vigilance procedures were enforced. Resultantly, the Pakistan Navy Anti-submarine warfare unit took the lead and prematurely intercepted and tracked the latest Indian submarine Kalvari“. This is the front line unit of Pakistan Navy and had been entrusted with the tasks of Surveillance, Anti-Submarine Warfare, Anti-Surface Vessel, Over the Horizon Targeting, Photography, Intelligence gathering, and Training.
According to the UN Convention on Law of Seas, a country enjoys absolute sovereignty over 12 nautical miles starting from its coast. Seeking from the UN Convention, the law itself doesn’t permit a country to carry its endeavors along the Exclusive Economic Zone and in the continental shelf of a country without its allowance. Primarily, the area under Exclusive Economic Zones surmises an area of seabed water and coastal water within a certain distance of a country cannot be entered without permission. Moreover, according to the Convention of sea laws, there is only one situation when allowance can be given and that is under the innocent passage in which the vessel passing should confer to the rules; it must not stop while sailing and should have a flag hoisted along.

Although it is apparent that submarine espionage violates the sovereignty of the coastal state in the territorial sea, it is unclear whether the operations are inconsistent with the law of the sea, or even international law more generally. Certainly undersea operations and spying in territorial waters without coastal state consent are not compatible with the regime of innocent passage in the law of the sea, but it is unclear whether they are lawful as “non-innocent” passage.
With that being said, the Indian Submarine has entered Pakistan’s water and violated Pakistan’s space. The Indian ambitions along the Indian Ocean and their maritime strategies are evidence of their hostile posture and this incident can be one of the episodes of those Indian hostile designs toward Pakistan. India’s belligerent and aggressive policies could spark strategic brinkmanship in IOR with disastrous consequences for regional security. Hence, to keep the equation balanced, a comprehensive and robust strategy to counter Indian hostile ambitions in Indian Ocean waters is the dire need of time.

Source ; defensetalks.com
 
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They are probing the defenses and figuring out how far and where do the limits of detection of an undeclared capability exist.
 
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They are probing the defenses and figuring out how far and where do the limits of detection of an undeclared capability exist.
The capacity is still work in progress, but yes, ofc the other side would keep trying to probe the defenses.
 
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Well detected.

The Indian government and military will keep doing this to instigate Pakistan to act.

Pakistan’s military should exercise maximum restraint at this point.
 
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Ok child. Go get on your knees and beg Indians for peace. Hopefully they’ll spare you.
That wannabe American mod can join you as well.
What's other options we have??? To attack India?? And will not expect India will not retaliate what a stupid thinking you have kid
 
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We can at least turn the heat up on LOC after such incidents. A raid or two won’t start a war or escalate any tensions.

My point is, every other month india sends a sub to our waters, india sponsors terrorism in Pakistan, india spreads propaganda against us, india does disinfo against us for last 15 yrs, india tries to diplomatically isolate us, india uses fatf and other orgs to make us punish patriots in Pakistan, india continues to support independence movements in Pakistan, india illegally annexed Kashmir with revoking article 370, India’s ruling party is blasphemous against our prophet (pbuh), “accidentally”shooting brahmos at us, doing false flags and blaming us, balakot, and india giving provoking statements always like saying they’ll occupy Gilgit or AJK but, what has our response been to any of this? Why are we allowing our selves to get pushed around?
To make things worse, while India openly does all this, we decide to punish those who made india have sleepless nights in Kashmir. Why?
Why are we allowing a country of 230 million get bullied this easily by Indians? And if that wasn’t enough we’re shamelessly giving statement like “bury the past” or “100 years of peace” or “trade with india can only save Pakistan” or doing ceasefire on LOC.

The least we could have done is break ceasefire on LOC when such incidents happen or if that’s too much for us WE COULD AT LEAST GIVE PROPER RETALIATORY STATEMENTS. When Brahmos landed in Pakistan, our dg ispr didn’t even mention it was a missile. He just said projectile.

My question is simple. Why have we become subservient to india?

Hi,

You should be more worried about " WHY WAS THE INDIAN SUB DETECTED".

To me---it looks like intentional by the indian navy. It seems like it was diverting attention from another sub which in a critical area and helping it to escape.

Modern subs just don't get detected like that so often.
 
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Hi,

You should be more worried about " WHY WAS THE INDIAN SUB DETECTED".

To me---it looks like intentional by the indian navy. It seems like it was diverting attention from another sub which in a critical area and helping it to escape.

Modern subs just don't get detected like that so often.
Exactly why we should give a response. Don’t send our subs in but at least do something in another sector or inside india.
This has become a new habit for Indians. Probably like the 10th time we detected their submarine.
If we go by what your saying, that means all the previous times as well Indian subs were in some critical area and sent another sub as distraction? Because this has become very frequent. It’s seriously very very concerning if that’s the case and has happened all this time.
As usual Pakistan still begging for peace.

I sometime wonder whether the p in PDF still stands for Pakistan or for Pajeets? The number of indians and bengalis infesting PDF is so great that we seem to be a minority on our own forum.
You can't discuss anything here without tripping over them everywhere on PDF.
EXACTLY !
It seems like I’m on a Indian forum
 
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Exactly why we should give a response. Don’t send our subs in but at least do something in another sector or inside india.
This has become a new habit for Indians. Probably like the 10th time we detected their submarine.
If we go by what your saying, that means all the previous times as well Indian subs were in some critical area and sent another sub as distraction? Because this has become very frequent. It’s seriously very very concerning if that’s the case and has happened all this time.
As usual Pakistan still begging for peace.


EXACTLY !
It seems like I’m on a Indian forum

Hi,

Modern subs are not detected easily---and even if they are detected with difficulty---it still means that there is something happening in the background. Subs just don't become visible on their own.

Silence is the best response.
 
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The capacity is still work in progress, but yes, ofc the other side would keep trying to probe the defenses.
Back in the 2000s , US mil forums with vets on them were claiming Seals would hunt AQ operatives in Karachi after being “delivered” by subs.

No idea on verification but in those days it seems very plausible to park a sub right off Karachi and deliver a team by inflatable at night
Have them go in with assets on the ground - take out a AQ operative and leave the same night.

Why would you need to do that when much easier methods are available is something That doesn’t need speculation.

For the IN though, it seems finding flanking routes to navigate to Ormara and come up behind any attempt to form a defensive formation by PN may be the intention.

It could also be finding places to park and launch CMs from or maybe they really may try the alleged USN+ Socom plan to try and get.. let me guess.. a certain Sarkar alleged to be living in DHA Phase 5 off Gizri.. or was it Phase 6..
Wallah o alam
 
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Back in the 2000s , US mil forums with vets on them were claiming Seals would hunt AQ operatives in Karachi after being “delivered” by subs.

No idea on verification but in those days it seems very plausible to park a sub right off Karachi and deliver a team by inflatable at night
Have them go in with assets on the ground - take out a AQ operative and leave the same night.

Why would you need to do that when much easier methods are available is something That doesn’t need speculation.

For the IN though, it seems finding flanking routes to navigate to Ormara and come up behind any attempt to form a defensive formation by PN may be the intention.

It could also be finding places to park and launch CMs from or maybe they really may try the alleged USN+ Socom plan to try and get.. let me guess.. a certain Sarkar alleged to be living in DHA Phase 5 off Gizri.. or was it Phase 6..
Wallah o alam
True, it would have been a lot easier then. Given how things are progressing with PN, IN will find it quite hard to venture in our corner - within about a couple of years or less. They have already been pushed back, to quite an extent.
 
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Back in the 2000s , US mil forums with vets on them were claiming Seals would hunt AQ operatives in Karachi after being “delivered” by subs.

No idea on verification but in those days it seems very plausible to park a sub right off Karachi and deliver a team by inflatable at night
Have them go in with assets on the ground - take out a AQ operative and leave the same night.

Why would you need to do that when much easier methods are available is something That doesn’t need speculation.

For the IN though, it seems finding flanking routes to navigate to Ormara and come up behind any attempt to form a defensive formation by PN may be the intention.

It could also be finding places to park and launch CMs from or maybe they really may try the alleged USN+ Socom plan to try and get.. let me guess.. a certain Sarkar alleged to be living in DHA Phase 5 off Gizri.. or was it Phase 6..
Wallah o alam
Hi,

It was a part of field training and secondly---just to show that they could do that without any hinderance.
 
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