Indian Army killed a Kashmiri Muslim

[Panther421]

It is not the issue of Kashmir only , they will separate Naga land and Asam also.

There is no such separation movement LoL
Your media has brainwashed you very deeply...
You people seem like jokers..

 

[hussain0216]

Kashmiri propaganda has been ongoing for the last 60 years, nothing has changed and nothing will change even after a hundred years, the other thing that hasn't changed is the fate of the Kashmiri people who are caught up in a false propaganda and a proxy war scenario.

The Sunni's of Kashmir - the wahaabi / Salafi one's are the trouble makers, they are the trouble makers all over the world, so there isn't anything better to expect from this lot anywhere.

You really do not need to stretch yourself to hate Hindus because this salafi / wahaabi bunch hates everybody - Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Animists...in fact even their co-religionists from different sects. They will hate anybody who isn't from their cult anyway.

It would be commendable if efforts are made to reduce the hate rather than increase it, because the world has had enough of hate from this particular cult.

Not really,
What propaganda?

Kashmir a muslim majority state is occupied by dark foreign hindus from india, people who dont match oe represent the Kashmiris culture, faith or language

They should have been free after partition but you occupied them

There is no hate without reason and the occupation of Kashmir is reason enough, why blame salafis

 

[Grevion]

We are 1.7 billion and growing with over 50 countries as part of our mass with hundreds of millions in the rest of the world's countries

Your not asking for respect your asking us to overlook your occupation of Kashmir, Palestine etc and not react

I am just asking you to stop blaming every incident as Muslims vs the rest.

And how did they realized that he is a threat. ???

Maybe he had a gun or maybe he was wearing a suicide vest. As I have said none of us knows what exactly happened .

 

[Hellfire]

Technically, Kashmir is a disputed territory as per UN and that would be a war crime against enemy combatant. If it was in Indian than it would be a human right violation or extra judicial killing.

Check again. It is off disputed territories since 2010. I have posted previous references about this from Dawn also. Suggest google it.

As for the second part, if the militant was from across LC (which was the case if I recall correctly) he was a 'spy' or a 'saboteur' who was illegally in the country hence not covered under Geneva Convention. If he was a Kashmiri, he took up arms against a sovereign nation and was dealt with by the security forces under provision of the CrPC 1973 of Republic of India in conjunction with the Army Act (the same act which we both have inherited from the British and which is what PA also uses to set up its own military courts to hang those who bear arms against Pakistan; hence legally justified) ... he is not liable for protection under any law as long as he bears arms against the Union.

So either way, he was not covered.

Thanks

Not really,
What propaganda?

Kashmir a muslim majority state is occupied by dark foreign hindus from india, people who dont match oe represent the Kashmiris culture, faith or language

They should have been free after partition but you occupied them

There is no hate without reason and the occupation of Kashmir is reason enough, why blame salafis

For bold part, you are continuously making racist slurs, if you are white or brown or green, don't care but desist, there are ample choicest words which can be used for you, but that shall derail a thread ... @WAJsal I have reported him for 2 consecutive days on making racist slurs, it does not matter how emotive he gets over Kashmir. Please deal with it.

@Panther421 you need to tell him that there is a Naga accord and permanent settlement with NSCN (IM) group, Khaplang is pro-china joker (will be dealt by NSCN-IM and IA/AR as needed), the Naga issue is over. Assam - the problem is the Muslim migration from Bangladesh ... there is a local backlash against that - nothing against India, recent results of state elections will show what Assam wants not what his wishes want.

Also, you need to tell him that Pakistan will be systematically dismembered. That is now the long term aim of India ..... keeping below the threshold of war.

 

[I spikes therefore I am]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1024021634380547

A ‪‎Kashmiri‬ was stuck and was asking for help from the Indian army. He was in pain. First the soldiers tried to help him but when they saw his "beard" (Assuming he is a Muslim) they killed him. And then the officer ordered other soldiers to try to identify him.

Indian troops could have simply saved his life but instead they killed him. In my view, a professional army wouldn't do that.

Yawn.....................

 

[Indrajith]

Good work by the Army --- now beard and short pants make every one nervous ....because now a day idiots dont care about innocent people

This could even happen in Muslim countries .... Now no body want to see a radicalized Muslim

 

[Dzz]

Read the article before posting it , it is a bilateral dispute , ban ki moon himself has stated to Pakistan that he will not intervene unless both India & pakistan request for it.

Pakistan lost its rights to call it a internationally disputed territory the moment it signed the shimila(?) agreement . Where Pakistan herself agreed to not allow third parties to intervene in topic of Kashmir .

 

[raja hindustani]

Not really,
What propaganda?

Kashmir a muslim majority state is occupied by dark foreign hindus from india, people who dont match oe represent the Kashmiris culture, faith or language

They should have been free after partition but you occupied them

There is no hate without reason and the occupation of Kashmir is reason enough, why blame salafis

I do not get the obsession of several of your countrymen with 'white' skin. Do you secretly wish you were white? There are plenty of dark pakistanis.
What rights do you expect from freedom? My state was a princely state before joining India, by your logic there wouldn't be any country. If tomorrow people in your mohalla start to demand freedom, would your government conduct a plebiscite?

Also i read an interesting comment from a poster claiming to be from nagaland on reddit.

"I understand why the kashmiris have taken up arms. 30 years back if you ask the civillians of Nagaland who do they spite? the answer would be "GOI (government of India)". fast forward 30 years the public in general hate the rebels (NSCN). In fact public organisations have been formed against the NSCN (e.g ACAUT).

How did this come about? After the signing of ceasefire between the rebel groups and government of India, the Indian army could no longer go on routine searches in homes of the public. these routine random searches in homes of the public were the main causes of Rape, torture and random killings of innocent civillians by army jawans thus sowing the seeds of hatred against the governemnt of India. The main thing was that after the jawan commited such atrocious acts we couldn't even take them to court because "AFSPA"."

 

[Genghis khan1]

Check again. It is off disputed territories since 2010. I have posted previous references about this from Dawn also. Suggest google it.

As for the second part, if the militant was from across LC (which was the case if I recall correctly) he was a 'spy' or a 'saboteur' who was illegally in the country hence not covered under Geneva Convention. If he was a Kashmiri, he took up arms against a sovereign nation and was dealt with by the security forces under provision of the CrPC 1973 of Republic of India in conjunction with the Army Act ... he is not liable for protection under any law as long as he bears arms against the Union.

So either way, he was not covered.

Thanks



For bold part, you are continuously making racist slurs, if you are white or brown or green, don't care but desist, there are ample choicest words which can be used for you, but that shall derail a thread ... @WAJsal I have reported him for 2 consecutive days on making racist slurs, it does not matter how emotive he gets over Kashmir. Please deal with it.

@Panther421 you need to tell him that there is a Naga accord and permanent settlement with NSCN (IM) group, Khaplang is pro-china joker (will be dealt by NSCN-IM and IA/AR as needed), the Naga issue is over. Assam - the problem is the Muslim migration from Bangladesh ... there is a local backlash against that - nothing against India, recent results of state elections will show what Assam wants not what his wishes want.

Also, you need to tell him that Pakistan will be systematically dismembered. That is now the long term aim of India ..... keeping below the threshold of war.

Assume whatever and however you would like. Kashmir is a disputed territory and that's how world sees it. It's off, it will be on again. Kashmir is the oldest disputed territory on UN list have a resolution on it.

 

[BABA AGHORI]

a Lie

I respect your right to stay in denial.

 

[Hellfire]

Assume whatever and however you would like. Kashmir is a disputed territory and that's how world sees it. It's off, it will be on again. Kashmir is the oldest disputed territory on UN list have a resolution on it.

The assumption is from your side here (bold part). I merely pointed out the facts which you are trying to deviate from.

Your rhetorical statement holds no value other than being a bluster. That, is your right. But again, speaking based on facts, you have lost the diplomatic war of Kashmir, military war is not an option for you. So maybe, only fomenting trouble (which you do) is only option today 9apart from proclaiming eternal war sitting outside Kashmir and Pakistan). But that too has immense costs for you.

You shall be seeing the escalation of costs in coming years. I have oft said, we have the time, we have the resources (in terms of men and material and economic base) and we have the diplomatic support on Kashmir today.

Dispassionately speaking, Kargil was a blunder by Pakistan. Until that moment, you had everything going for you. You had a weak India (under sanctions and economically weak still) bereft of support of USSR and still viewed antagonistically by US, you had a raging insurgency in Kashmir which was getting the attention as a nuclear flashpoint and led to India being subjected to continuous diplomatic pressure and you had the initiative with you to escalate it by rotating assets from Afghanistan to India.

But miscalculations of Kargil and the stupidity of Parliament Attack and Indian inaction during Op Parakaram, changed the balance for you.

Just pointing out facts. No rants or assumptions here.

Thanks

PS:

1. Oh had edited my previous post ... Army Act is the one which even PA uses to derive the authority for setting up military court which keeps handing out death penalties the misguided souls in FATA and NWFP, the legal basis is same as we have for us - a legacy of the British which we use to execute people who we don't like when we want. The same provision allows for Summary Trial and punishment, or trial by court, depending on the charges levelled and gravity of offence.

2. Again pointing out hard facts and not making an assumption or posting a rhetoric.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Read the article before posting it , it is a bilateral dispute , ban ki moon himself has stated to Pakistan that he will not intervene unless both India & pakistan request for it.

Pakistan lost its rights to call it a internationally disputed territory the moment it signed the shimila(?) agreement . Where Pakistan herself agreed to not allow third parties to intervene in topic of Kashmir .

Anything danger to world peace falls under UN charter. Simla agreement is between India and Pakistan and not UN. It is only effective if both parties abide by it. UN observers are still present on LOC.

 

[illusion8]

Not really,
What propaganda?

Kashmir a muslim majority state is occupied by dark foreign hindus from india, people who dont match oe represent the Kashmiris culture, faith or language

They should have been free after partition but you occupied them

There is no hate without reason and the occupation of Kashmir is reason enough, why blame salafis

Kashmir is a land of Hindu's, of Kashmiri Pandits, of Amarnath - one of the holiest of Hindu Sites.

Converted Muslims demanding a state for the sake of an alien religion and alien practices that was imported from the god forsaken desert and which has nothing to do with the land and has no basis to exist in the Sub continent? don't you find that odd?

You will need to wait for the British to come again for another partition )), I doubt they'll dare. Other than that, there isn't any force on Earth that can enforce another partition.

The salafis are the one's waving the Pakistani and the ISIS flags in the valley.

 

[Sneaker]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1024021634380547

A ‪‎Kashmiri‬ was stuck and was asking for help from the Indian army. He was in pain. First the soldiers tried to help him but when they saw his "beard" (Assuming he is a Muslim) they killed him. And then the officer ordered other soldiers to try to identify him.

Indian troops could have simply saved his life but instead they killed him. In my view, a professional army wouldn't do that.

He was the same militant that killed a soldier during earlier attempt to rescue him. They should have poured petrol and lit a match... bullets were too peaceful for that scum...

 

[RealNapster]

none of us knows what exactly happened .

Then how can you say that Army is clean and the dead was a militant ???