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India violating IWT: Pakistan to face severe water shortage

Let me try to give an analogy. Violating a water treaty is easy to prove and is very scientific, Pakistan has a international court to go and prove the charge. They cannot do it and still think they are right.

On the other hand they expect acts of terrorism to be proven beyond a shred of a doubt, something which is extremely difficult to prove by anyone.

Follow what you preach, prove it and I will support you.
 
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Figment of some Pakistani's imagination, with usual diatribes. Just to vent frustration on its own govt. by vested interest (as admitted by OP) with India as a punching bag.

They can not preserve their own waters (not highlighted by OP) and have all the conspiracy theories on inability to build Kalabag dam but not consensus amongst.

For water levels going down they are foolishly blaming it on flow of rivers but not over drawing of ground water which is more prevalent and a crisis in Indian side of Punjab as well. Adding comments of some of their own water expert engineer is making the news more affective to gullible readers.

The case of Kishanganga dam on which Pakistan has got a stay on any construction is not giving India a free ride but increasing the cost manifolds, stalling the development and desired output is currently before the ICA. So Pakistanis have no right to talk and build fictitious opinion on this case in particular. If they think their own bureaucrats have compromised the Pakistani position then they have all the time to make a case again or unilaterally tear off IWT.
 
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Pakistan should bomb the Indian Dams in a surgical preemptive strike. If Indians try to come across , use the tactical nukes to incinerate the strike formations. Then if Indians go nuclear, go on a all out nuclear attack. If we are going down let us take these ************* with us.



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Pakistan should bomb the Indian Dams in a surgical preemptive strike. If Indians try to come across , use the tactical nukes to incinerate the strike formations. Then if Indians go nuclear, go on a all out nuclear attack. If we are going down let us take these ************* with us.

You can do nothing more then what you just did, type on keyboard.

Easier to threaten difficult to do something.
 
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Pakistan should bomb the Indian Dams in a surgical preemptive strike. If Indians try to come across , use the tactical nukes to incinerate the strike formations. Then if Indians go nuclear, go on a all out nuclear attack. If we are going down let us take these ************* with us.

In idiotspeak, that must be a clever thing to say. But in real life, pakistan can go to the arbitrar, who, with some sheer luck may not be a freemason or part of the golbal conspiracy to troll pakistan and may deliver justice. But why do I think that will not happen and pakistani jihadis and the new age pakistani nuclear jihadis will keep using this bogeyan to preach their hatred...?
 
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Just nuke India.... The dams will open by themselves..
What about flash flood in Pakistan if it happens even if we don't reply back with nuke.....Dude stop using baseless words and learn some reality.

Always think about what will be possible repercussions of any action to take. Otherwise people like you will take Pakistan to oblivion and loss of millions of Indian too....
 
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Tell us some thing.....its been 50 years you are blaming us for stealing water...but the problem is you are able prove this in front of international community....
 
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Is that the best you can do my cyber jihadi friend??...:D now next please do not blow yourself up... we are far away from you.. :rofl:

Please don't beat up dalits...
 
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And why this thread is not merged with Water dispute thread there i think there are nearly 200 of my post explaining the issues.But again same circular arguments come after each year like monsoon rains.Btw monsoon is weak and late this year so next year there will be more water scaricity.Idont know what will happen to rabi and khareef crops
 
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Misplaced Water Diplomacy
It makes little sense for a parched India to be so generous in sharing river waters
Brahma Chellaney
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Charity should begin at home
Reciprocity is the first principle of diplomacy. But not for India, if one goes by its record. India has walked the extra mile to befriend neighbours, yet today it lives in the world’s most-troubled neighbourhood.
India’s generosity on land issues has been well documented, including its surrender of Britishinherited extraterritorial rights in Tibet in 1954, the giving back of strategic Haji Pir to Pakistan after the 1965 war, and the similar return of territorial gains and 93,000 prisoners after 1971 – all without securing any tangible reciprocity. Despite that record, there are still calls within India today for it to unilaterally cede control over the Siachen Glacier.
Even though India is reeling under a growing water crisis – with hospitals in its capital postponing surgeries because of lack of water and much of the country parched and thirsty – few seem to know that India’s generosity has extended not just to land but also to river waters.
The world’s most generous water-sharing pact is the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty, under which India agreed to set aside 80.52% of the waters of the sixriver Indus system for Pakistan, keeping for itself just the remaining 19.48% share. Both in terms of the sharing ratio as well as the total quantum of waters reserved for a downstream state, this treaty’s munificence is unsurpassed in scale in the annals of international water treaties. Indeed, the volume of water earmarked for Pakistan is more than 90 times greater than the 1.85 billion cubic metres the US is required to release for Mexico under the 1944 US-Mexico Water Treaty.
The unparalleled water generosity has only invited trouble for India. Within five years of the Indus treaty, Pakistan launched its second war against India to grab the rest of Kashmir when India had still not recovered from its humiliating rout in 1962 at the hands of the Chinese.
Today, Pakistan expects eternal Indian munificence on water even as its military establishment (with blood of innocent Indians on its hands) continues to export terror. Yet, with all the
water flowing downstream under the treaty, the same question must haunt the Pakistani generals as it did Lady Macbeth in William Shakespeare’s Macbeth: “Will all great Neptune’s ocean wash this blood clean from my hand?” Meanwhile, India’s own Indus basin, according to the 2030 Water Resources Group, confronts a massive 52% deficit between water supply and demand.
India’s 1996 Ganges treaty with Bangladesh guarantees minimum cross-border flows in the dry season – a new principle in international water law. In fact, the treaty almost equally divides the downstream Ganges flows between the two countries. Because of that precedent, India seems now ready to reserve almost half of the Teesta river waters for Bangladesh in what will be the world’s first watersharing treaty of the 21st century.
Water is a state issue, not a federal matter, in the Indian Constitution, yet Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has sought to strong-arm West Bengal into accepting a Teesta river treaty on terms dictated by New Delhi. Existing watersharing treaties elsewhere in the world, by contrast, don’t come anywhere close to allocating half of all basin waters to the downstream state. Another key fact is that unlike Bangladesh, India is already a seriously water-stressed country. Whereas the annual per capita water availability in Bangladesh averages 8,252 cubic metres, it has fallen to a paltry 1,560 cubic metres in India.
Lost in such big-hearted diplomacy is the fact that India is downriver to China, which far from wanting to emulate India’s Indus or Ganges style water munificence, rejects the very concept of water sharing. Instead, the construction of upstream dams on international rivers, such as the Mekong, Brahmaputra, Salween, Irtysh, Illy and Amur shows that China is increasingly bent on unilateral actions, impervious to the concerns of downstream nations. Over the next decade, China plans to build more large dams than the US or India has managed in its entire history.
By seeking to have its hand on Asia’s water tap through an extensive upstream infrastructure, China challenges India’s interests more than any other country’s. Although a number of nations stretching from Afghanistan to Vietnam receive waters from the Tibetan Plateau, India’s direct dependency on Tibetan waters is greater than of any other country. With about a dozen important rivers flowing in from the Tibetan Himalayan region, India gets almost one-third of all its yearly water supplies of 1,911 cubic km from Tibet, according to the latest UN data.
In this light, it is fair to ask: Is India condemned to perpetual generosity towards its neighbours? This question has assumed added urgency because India has started throwing money around as part of its newly unveiled aid diplomacy – $1 billion in aid to Bangladesh, one-fifth as grant; $500 million to Myanmar; $300 million to Sri Lanka; $140 million to the Maldives; and generous new aid to Afghanistan and Nepal. If pursued with wishful thinking, such aid generosity is likely to meet the same fate as water munificence.
Generosity in diplomacy can yield rich dividends if it is part of a strategically geared outreach designed to ameliorate the regional security situation so that India can play a larger global role. But if it is not anchored in the fundamentals of international relations – including reciprocity and leverage building – India risks accentuating its tyranny of geography, even as it is left holding the bag.
The writer is a geostrategist.
 
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Just nuke India.... The dams will open by themselves..

nukes are expensive and radioactive just fire couple of baburs on illegal dams like bagliar dams

Misplaced Water Diplomacy
It makes little sense for a parched India to be so generous in sharing river waters
Brahma Chellaney
getimage.dll

Charity should begin at home
Reciprocity is the first principle of diplomacy. But not for India, if one goes by its record. India has walked the extra mile to befriend neighbours, yet today it lives in the world’s most-troubled neighbourhood.
India’s generosity on land issues has been well documented, including its surrender of Britishinherited extraterritorial rights in Tibet in 1954, the giving back of strategic Haji Pir to Pakistan after the 1965 war, and the similar return of territorial gains and 93,000 prisoners after 1971 – all without securing any tangible reciprocity. Despite that record, there are still calls within India today for it to unilaterally cede control over the Siachen Glacier.
Even though India is reeling under a growing water crisis – with hospitals in its capital postponing surgeries because of lack of water and much of the country parched and thirsty – few seem to know that India’s generosity has extended not just to land but also to river waters.
The world’s most generous water-sharing pact is the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty, under which India agreed to set aside 80.52% of the waters of the sixriver Indus system for Pakistan, keeping for itself just the remaining 19.48% share. Both in terms of the sharing ratio as well as the total quantum of waters reserved for a downstream state, this treaty’s munificence is unsurpassed in scale in the annals of international water treaties. Indeed, the volume of water earmarked for Pakistan is more than 90 times greater than the 1.85 billion cubic metres the US is required to release for Mexico under the 1944 US-Mexico Water Treaty.
The unparalleled water generosity has only invited trouble for India. Within five years of the Indus treaty, Pakistan launched its second war against India to grab the rest of Kashmir when India had still not recovered from its humiliating rout in 1962 at the hands of the Chinese.
Today, Pakistan expects eternal Indian munificence on water even as its military establishment (with blood of innocent Indians on its hands) continues to export terror. Yet, with all the
water flowing downstream under the treaty, the same question must haunt the Pakistani generals as it did Lady Macbeth in William Shakespeare’s Macbeth: “Will all great Neptune’s ocean wash this blood clean from my hand?” Meanwhile, India’s own Indus basin, according to the 2030 Water Resources Group, confronts a massive 52% deficit between water supply and demand.
India’s 1996 Ganges treaty with Bangladesh guarantees minimum cross-border flows in the dry season – a new principle in international water law. In fact, the treaty almost equally divides the downstream Ganges flows between the two countries. Because of that precedent, India seems now ready to reserve almost half of the Teesta river waters for Bangladesh in what will be the world’s first watersharing treaty of the 21st century.
Water is a state issue, not a federal matter, in the Indian Constitution, yet Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has sought to strong-arm West Bengal into accepting a Teesta river treaty on terms dictated by New Delhi. Existing watersharing treaties elsewhere in the world, by contrast, don’t come anywhere close to allocating half of all basin waters to the downstream state. Another key fact is that unlike Bangladesh, India is already a seriously water-stressed country. Whereas the annual per capita water availability in Bangladesh averages 8,252 cubic metres, it has fallen to a paltry 1,560 cubic metres in India.
Lost in such big-hearted diplomacy is the fact that India is downriver to China, which far from wanting to emulate India’s Indus or Ganges style water munificence, rejects the very concept of water sharing. Instead, the construction of upstream dams on international rivers, such as the Mekong, Brahmaputra, Salween, Irtysh, Illy and Amur shows that China is increasingly bent on unilateral actions, impervious to the concerns of downstream nations. Over the next decade, China plans to build more large dams than the US or India has managed in its entire history.
By seeking to have its hand on Asia’s water tap through an extensive upstream infrastructure, China challenges India’s interests more than any other country’s. Although a number of nations stretching from Afghanistan to Vietnam receive waters from the Tibetan Plateau, India’s direct dependency on Tibetan waters is greater than of any other country. With about a dozen important rivers flowing in from the Tibetan Himalayan region, India gets almost one-third of all its yearly water supplies of 1,911 cubic km from Tibet, according to the latest UN data.
In this light, it is fair to ask: Is India condemned to perpetual generosity towards its neighbours? This question has assumed added urgency because India has started throwing money around as part of its newly unveiled aid diplomacy – $1 billion in aid to Bangladesh, one-fifth as grant; $500 million to Myanmar; $300 million to Sri Lanka; $140 million to the Maldives; and generous new aid to Afghanistan and Nepal. If pursued with wishful thinking, such aid generosity is likely to meet the same fate as water munificence.
Generosity in diplomacy can yield rich dividends if it is part of a strategically geared outreach designed to ameliorate the regional security situation so that India can play a larger global role. But if it is not anchored in the fundamentals of international relations – including reciprocity and leverage building – India risks accentuating its tyranny of geography, even as it is left holding the bag.
The writer is a geostrategist.

china is charitable enough to let the 100% of ganges pass, imagine if china closes ganges, india with no toilets will be with no water as well, use open air dumps with tissue paper
 
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