India-US Naval Drills: How US using India to counter China...!!!

[Zain Malik]

US has long been concerned at the rising Chinese Military might in the region. Chinese Navy assertion in the South China Sea has been the bone of the contention between the two super powers in recent times and it is said that if ever US and Chinese Armed Forces come across each other face to face the venue is likely to be the South China Sea in the Pacific.

US has also accorded the trade agreement named Trans Pacific Partnership TPP with 11 East Asian Nations minus the China and is holding regularly the naval and military exercises with Chinese rival Japan in the East and South Chinese Sea.

However US is much desirous and eager to include Indian Navy in its ambit of the Pacific joint drills against China.

US consider India as the most appropriate Nation which could stand tall against China in future. India too has the same sentiments and desires in The Region.

However India is cognizant of the fact that it cannot alone stand in front of Chinese indigenous military might, thus requires US support to to so.

Growing concern over emerging China and its naval activity in India’s back yard — the vast Indian Ocean — have brought the two once-distant militaries closer than ever before, according to a report in The Washington Post on Monday.

Admiral Harry Harris, commander of the US Pacific Command, Washington is looking to garner more support from India and other regional players to continue the so-called freedom-of-navigation patrols in the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea.

“In the not too distant future, American and Indian Navy vessels steaming together will become a common and welcome sight throughout Indo-Asia-Pacific waters, As we work together to maintain freedom of the seas for all nations,” he said.

India holds more military exercises with America than with any other country, and the two allies are working to expand their cooperation.

New Delhi agreed to allow Washington to use its military bases in exchange for weapons technology to help India narrow the gap with China.

The two sides indicated that their navies will hold talks on anti-submarine warfare (ASW), an area of sensitive military technology and joint tactics that only allies share.

Indian navy officials have reported sighting Chinese submarines four times every three months on an average basis, with most of the sightings being registered near India’s Andamans and Nicobar islands in the vicinity of the Malacca Straits.

More than 80 percent of China’s fuel supplies pass through this entry to the South China Sea.

As part of their new naval cooperation against Chinese subs, U.S. and India are flying the new version of the US P-8 spy aircraft, which is the Pentagon’s most effective submarine hunting weapon.

The P-8 or Poseidon is capable of using torpedoes, depth charges, SLAM-ER missiles, Harpoon anti-ship missiles and other weapons.

In the latest development India, Japan and US are holding trilateral naval drills starting from Friday in Western Pacific.

The drills named Malabar are annually held between US and India since 2007 and Japan is included permanently since last year.

The drills include anti-submarine warfare and air defense training that will last till June 17.

Hyuga helicopter carrier, P-3C and P-1 patrol planes, and US-2 rescue aircrafts will take part from Japan side.

While India will send its four warships consisting of guided missile stealth frigates INS Satpura and Sahyadri: INS Shakti, and US will send its 7th Fleet in the drills.

The most important aspect of the emerging strategic partnership between India and US is that both nations are close to inking a logistic agreement whereby in near future the Indian Naval bases will soon be witnessing US Naval Fleet stationed at the Indian Naval Bases.

US and India are closing on defence arms and ammunitions deals worth $10 billions which include a future state of the art Air Craft Carrier for the Indian Navy along with other high tech equipment.

However the most interesting aspect of the Indo-US emerging partnership is that in a bid to counter China soon Indians are going to witness US boots on ground Indian soil.

 

[Zain Malik]

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[shah1398]

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I had been strong vocal of the fact that Uncle Sam is pitching India against China to do what US itself is not directly engaging in. Uncle Sam never befriends anyone but to consume it fully. It would be interesting if India would keep on following the line of US or has already set some limits.

 

[Zain Malik]

I had been strong vocal of the fact that Uncle Sam is pitching India against China to do what US itself is not directly engaging in. Uncle Sam never befriends anyone but to consume it fully. It would be interesting if India would keep on following the line of US or has already set some limits.

Hahaha.....Let India to stuck into the trap of Uncle Sam...
Surely China Will No effect on it by India...
Mun ki Khayein Ge.....

 

[Turingsage]

These are just ramblings that the internet provides in its millions daily.
US navy sails with australia korea new zealand malaysia indonesia South Africa Brunai Saudis Kuwaitis UAE even Pakistan in the past has sidled up to the US
Suddenly India is taking on China. Really
We will have joint exercises to ensure the trade routes remain open to all and not threatened by spurious claims to OWN whole oceans and seas

 

[Jamwal's]

India is too big and Strong to be "use" by USA but surely India has its own interests in that region such as Vietnamese Oil blocks and freedom of Navigation.

 

[arbit]

I had been strong vocal of the fact that Uncle Sam is pitching India against China to do what US itself is not directly engaging in. Uncle Sam never befriends anyone but to consume it fully. It would be interesting if India would keep on following the line of US or has already set some limits.

There might be some truth to it, but then all relationships are not equal and certainly don't follow the same template.
Moreover, one can learn from another's mistake. In this case India can learn from the mistakes of Pakistan while engaging with America.
Also, on a basis of more personal opinion, there is a whole lot of difference between how our leaders engage with Americans and how yours do. Its chalk and cheese really.
So no worries on that account.

 

[shah1398]

In this case India can learn from the mistakes of Pakistan while engaging with America.

U have hit the Bull's eye. Thats why i said if India has set any limits on engagements with US or not.

 

[arbit]

U have hit the Bull's eye. Thats why i said if India has set any limits on engagements with US or not.

That we will find out eventually. But honestly speaking, like I said earlier I personally don't have too many worries on that account. I have been following Modi for a long time and am familiar with his working style. Typical Gujarati with heightened transactional aptitude.
Just look at the way how he sidestepped all the insults in view of the benefits that can be accrued from US to India. It might sound fan boyish , but really i can't explain it in better terms.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

OMG!!! China and the USA and Australia held a joint drill. Must be for India!!! ... Well, about the boring things we are not interested in. So, please stop making a fuss. It doesn't make any sense.

 

[4GTejasBVR]

From today's speech by pm to Congress... I must say India is ready for war with China... For sure massive support from nato and us allied force in Asia against single enemy China. I think Chinese are wise enough to see through the future if war breaks out in south China Sea. China must consider it's economic crisis which is directly related to its aggressive posture. Dept is not a good factors for our Asian countries. We are still a developing world.

Hope right sense prevails. China should be able to get rid of bad friends and

Hahaha.....Let India to stuck into the trap of Uncle Sam...
Surely China Will No effect on it by India...
Mun ki Khayein Ge.....

Its not about uncle Sam it's about what you can offer. That's make lots of difference. As of now we need to get into world organisation. And China too not helping the case. Keep threatening our partners. We have to take some strong steps to protect our friends. I think we are capable to do so

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

https://timesofislamabad.com/india-us-naval-drills-how-us-using-india-to-counter-china/2016/06/08/

 

[Zain Malik]

I think we are capable to do so

Ohhh Come-On are you in your senses...
You mean you can compete with China........Result will be same like '62

 

[4GTejasBVR]

Ohhh Come-On are you in your senses...
You mean you can compete with China........Result will be same like '62

No like in war after that... The last time Chinese promised no bullet will be fired...

 

[Akasa]

From today's speech by pm to Congress... I must say India is ready for war with China... For sure massive support from nato and us allied force in Asia against single enemy China. I think Chinese are wise enough to see through the future if war breaks out in south China Sea. China must consider it's economic crisis which is directly related to its aggressive posture. Dept is not a good factors for our Asian countries. We are still a developing world.

Hope right sense prevails. China should be able to get rid of bad friends and



Its not about uncle Sam it's about what you can offer. That's make lots of difference. As of now we need to get into world organisation. And China too not helping the case. Keep threatening our partners. We have to take some strong steps to protect our friends. I think we are capable to do so

Firstly, a "war with China" is a hugely multi-faceted and highly dynamic scenario, the result of which one would definitely not gauge with a mere "I think" or "I do not think". How does India, for instance, ensure that NATO members and the US would assist India in a hypothetical conflict, and to what extent? India is neither part of nor have any binding treaties with NATO. The Philippines had a defense treaty with the United States, only to see the latter renege on that very agreement when the Chinese disputed their claims in the SCS. In the same vein, the US and Pakistan also hold a mutual defense pact, and yet it would be prospectively unfathomable to see the former providing direct military support to the latter should a conflict with India arise. Historically, the US never divulged one iota of support to Islamabad during its standoffs with India.

Secondly, the driving forces behind China's economic slowdown, again a multi-faceted and immensely-convoluted issue, has little to do with the dynamics of the SCS dispute (which involves many nations, not just China). China is predominantly a second-sector economy, one in which the manufacturing and export of tangible goods are utmost. This means that any major change to its labor force & cost would determine the lion's share of its GDP. Chinese wages are rising, leading to rising labor costs, and with increased automation of production in the United States and developed countries, it is no surprise that manufacturing in China has lost its luster. Likewise, the inability of Chinese firms to move hop overseas and the holistic lack of entrepreneurial spirit (I blame Communism for this one) make it tough for the country to move from a second-sector (manufacturing-based) to a tertiary-sector (services-based) economy. Factor in property & stock bubbles and a history of deficit-driven economic growth (i.e. government spends to promote infrastructure projects), and you get an idea of why their economic miracle doesn't last forever. Japan and South Korea faced the same problems and consequences. A lot of factors are at play, but few, if any, of them are directly precipitants of China's actions in and about the SCS.