India to back UN on action against Syria

[SRP]

now china has an established naval base in sri lanka!!!

From where did you get that?

 

[Indo-guy]

because they have been ordered to come back before proper investigation could occur.............these are ominous signs



the question is not whether attack occured


but who did it!!



we screwed up in case of sri lanka as

1)they were fighting ltte as we are fighting let and maoists
2)ltte killed rajiv gandhi
3)they killed hundreds of members of indian peace keeping force sent there in 89
4)we pushed them into the hands of china and pakistan with this decision.............................and it was a bad one


we cannot let indivisual state matters to complicate our international strategy

now china has an established naval base in sri lanka!!!

Rajiv Gandhi paid price of his life by deciding to aid Sri lanka by sending our forces to that country
....We have been embroiled in Sri Lanka since then ....Tamil minority has been wedging for political liberation ...which took terrorist turn ...
We took correct stand by denouncing LTTE ....but I am not sure if we were correct to get involved by sending forces to Sri Lanka .

Tamils of South India have strong feelings for Sri Lankan tamils ...for obvious reasons . We thus committed great mistake by getting involved in Sri lanka's internal problem. Indian politics has been caught in that cross fire since then ...

We supported Sri lanka's fight against LTTE mediated terrorism ....However that does not mean endorsing Sri Lankan government lead genocide of tamils ....

As far as Sri Lanka's relations with china is concerned ...
I do not think we can go on pleasing countries so that they do what we wish them to do or not !

If country like Sri Lanka is going to forget that we helped them against our own tamil brother's sentiments based on our principled stand " terrorism is evil....no matter where it comes from " ....then we are rather better off without such friendly countries who have short memory towards benevolence of another country ....

If China is aiding in building port ( not a naval base ) at Hambanbota ...so let it ! India can't stop surrounding countries to take particular stand ...rather should strengthen itself so that nobody will dare to attack India no matter how many strings it weaves around India .

Do you envisage a weak India which will go on plead its neighbors not to side with China and will do anything just keep these countries amused ? Or you want India to take stand based on principles which is also in it is long term interest ....

I am quite surprised that you want India to ignore mass genocide of tamils just to keep Sri Lanka happy....
Do you really believe that this would have prevented development of Sino - Sri Lankan relations ?

I am afraid that's not the case ....

 

[he-man]

From where did you get that?

pls read

Sri Lanka Defends China
China Base a Threat to India Navy? | The Diplomat
Sri Lanka is no pearl on China's string, Rajapaksa says | Reuters
India`s response to Sinhala-Chinese Naval base in Hambanthota.... - Sri Lanka

there is no official announcement but these rumours carry the merit.....................pls read an interview i posted here of sri lankan president too

 

[Indo-guy]

From where did you get that?

He is referring to port at Hamanbota that is being developed by China ...( which is not a naval base ) but has potential to turn into if Indo-Sri Lankan relation continue to deteriorate and Sri Lanka decides to join military alliance with china ( which is unlikely )

 

[he-man]

Rajiv Gandhi paid price of his life by deciding to aid Sri lanka by sending our forces to that country
....We have been embroiled in Sri Lanka since then ....Tamil minority has been wedging for political liberation ...which took terrorist turn ...
We took correct stand by denouncing LTTE ....but I am not sure if we were correct to get involved by sending forces to Sri Lanka .

Tamils of South India have strong feelings for Sri Lankan tamils ...for obvious reasons . We thus committed great mistake by getting involved in Sri lanka's internal problem. Indian politics has been caught in that cross fire since then ...

We supported Sri lanka's fight against LTTE mediated terrorism ....However that does not mean endorsing Sri Lankan government lead genocide of tamils ....

As far as Sri Lanka's relations with china is concerned ...
I do not think we can go on pleasing countries so that they do what we wish them to do or not !

If country like Sri Lanka is going to forget that we helped them against our own tamil brother's sentiments based on our principled stand " terrorism is evil....no matter where it comes from " ....then we are rather better off without such friendly countries who have short memory towards benevolence of another country ....

If China is aiding in building port ( not a naval base ) at Hambanbota ...so let it ! India can't stop surrounding countries to take particular stand ...rather should strengthen itself so that nobody will dare to attack India no matter how many strings it weaves around India .

Do you envisage a weak India which will go on plead its neighbors not to side with China and will do anything just keep these countries amused ? Or you want India to take stand based on principles which is also in it is long term interest ....

I am quite surprised that you want India to ignore mass genocide of tamils just to keep Sri Lanka happy....
Do you really believe that this would have prevented development of Sino - Sri Lankan relations ?

I am afraid that's not the case ....

i am sorry i don't agree.............it was pertinent for us to have sri lanka on our side,,,,we lost that opportunity badly

as for ltte.............they were terrorists just like khalistanis,,,,,were using people as shields and people always die in a war

its as simple as that

 

[jaunty]

SECURITY COUNCIL WAS BYPASSED DURING IRAQ ATTACK TOO

IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN

Yes if there is any action it will be unilateral from the US in which case India won't be supporting that. How does that make India a US stooge?

iran and assad are allies as both are shia!!

Wow, I know that man. I was asking him why India's decision to follow the UN mandate would make Iran happy.

It's a weird kind of thinking.

People dream of earning cheap browny points when they should supposedly be worrying about what is happening to innocents belonging to their own Ummah!

Ummah is a marriage of convenience!!

 

[Indo-guy]

i am sorry i don't agree.............it was pertinent for us to have sri lanka on our side,,,,we lost that opportunity badly

as for ltte.............they were terrorists just like khalistanis,,,,,were using people as shields and people always die in a war

its as simple as that

It's ok if you don't agree with me ...

I personally feel that Our country has to be strong enough to not to be tied to any of our neighbors good -will or ill-will ....

To support regime which has overseen one of the largest genocides of our time in the name of war ...for sake of so called Political goodwill is sheer opportunism ....that too unfounded !

You can't ignore strength and clout of China ....no matter what you do you can't stop our neighbors and friends re-aligning with china ....

So this particular argument that we lost Sri Lanka to China and Pakistan because our vote against Sri Lanka is fallacious.

Whether we would have voted or not we just can't expect any of our neighbors to keep away from China even when we ourselves are busy in improving our relationship and business with China .


You are going to see more and more of our neighbors siding , aligning with China ...

 

[he-man]

It's ok if you don't agree with me ...

I personally feel that Our country has to be strong enough to not to be tied to any of our neighbors good -will or ill-will ....

To support regime which has overseen one of the largest genocides of our time in the name of war ...for sake of so called Political goodwill is sheer opportunism ....

You can't ignore strength and clout of China ....no matter what you do you can't stop our neighbors and friends re-aligning with china ....

So this particular argument that we lost Sri Lanka to China and Pakistan because our vote against Sri Lanka is fallacious.

Whether we would have voted or not we just can't expect any of our neighbors to keep away from China even when we ourselves are busy in improving our relationship and business with China .


You are going to see more and more of our neighbors siding , aligning with China ....

then we are foolish to allow this to happen

And regarding genoside-------------same can be said about india in kashmir and north east states but who cares??

you have to safeguard ur country and ltte was a terrorist organization par excellence credited with building the first human bomb to assasinate rajiv gandhi.They had to be dealt with just like we have to deal with maoists

When india kills maoists and there is collateral damage(when we launch a proper operation once and for all) do u want resolution against india too??If u don't then u are showing a bit hypocrisy here

In punjab insurgency god knows how many innocents died as collateral but it was necessary,i being a sikh understands it and so should the tamils too.peace

 

[Vinod2070]

Ummah is a marriage of convenience!!

That and the fact that self hate seems to trump love for the fellow Muslims.

 

[Indo-guy]

then we are foolish to allow this to happen

And regarding genoside-------------same can be said about india in kashmir and north east states but who cares??

you have to safeguard ur country and ltte was a terrorist organization par excellence credited with building the first human bomb to assasinate rajiv gandhi.They had to be dealt with just like we have to deal with maoists

When india kills maoists and there is collateral damage(when we launch a proper operation once and for all) do u want resolution against india too??If u don't then u are showing a bit hypocrisy here

In punjab insurgency god knows how many innocents died as collateral but it was necessary,i being a sikh understands it and so should the tamils too.peace

Collateral damage is convenient tem to dump our responsibilities ...I will not equate what happens in Kashmir or Punjab to what happened in Sri Lanka .
The sheer number of Tamil civilians killed in operation against LTTE speaks for itself ....I do not deny human rights violations that happen in Kashmir and Punjab or any other insurgency hit areas ...but you can't simply compare to that to Sri Lanka's tamil genocide .

I am not justifying LTTE at all . as I said India took correct stand to denounce LTTE as terrorist organization ....however that does not mean we simply allow ourselves to endorse each and every action that Sri Lankan government took while wiping out LTTE.

We as a civilized country have to do everything to negate " Collateral damage " as you say even as we fight terrorism in multitudes of forms !

To simply accept our blunders as " collateral damage " leaves us no better than savages who fight their opponents !

Having said that I will rest this debate ...for it is digression from main topic .

 

[Hashshāshīn]

Obama: "We will not let people use chemical weapons".

Japan:

Vietnam:

 

[he-man]

Collateral damage is convenient tem to dump our responsibilities ...I will not equate what happens in Kashmir or Punjab to what happened in Sri Lanka .
The sheer number of Tamil civilians killed in operation against LTTE speaks for itself ....I do not deny human rights violations that happen in Kashmir and Punjab or any other insurgency hit areas ...but you can't simply compare to that to Sri Lanka's tamil genocide .

I am not justifying LTTE at all . as I said India took correct stand to denounce LTTE as terrorist organization ....however that does not mean we simply allow ourselves to endorse each and every action that Sri Lankan government took while wiping out LTTE.

We as a civilized country have to do everything to negate " Collateral damage " as you say even as we fight terrorism in multitudes of forms !

To simply accept our blunders as " collateral damage " leaves us no better than savages who fight their opponents !

Having said that I will rest this debate ...for it is digression from main topic .

yup.......this debate must end

Obama: "We will not let people use chemical weapons".

Japan:

Vietnam:

excellent man..............hypocrites

 

[Sashan]

then we are foolish to allow this to happen

And regarding genoside-------------same can be said about india in kashmir and north east states but who cares??

you have to safeguard ur country and ltte was a terrorist organization par excellence credited with building the first human bomb to assasinate rajiv gandhi.They had to be dealt with just like we have to deal with maoists

When india kills maoists and there is collateral damage(when we launch a proper operation once and for all) do u want resolution against india too??If u don't then u are showing a bit hypocrisy here

In punjab insurgency god knows how many innocents died as collateral but it was necessary,i being a sikh understands it and so should the tamils too.peace

You tend to equate India dealing with Kashmir and Maoists with how SL army dealt with LTTE and equating the collateral damage in both countries? Then you are naive at the least. One country used heavy artillery and airforce against its own people recklessly and mercilessly while the other country refrains from using heavy weapons even against the foreign terrorists thus causing the deaths of its own soldiers. You need to know the difference.

As for India help for SL in the SL war, it has been discussed to death here how India provided crucial support in destroing the LTTE weapons bases.

 

[he-man]

You tend to equate India dealing with Kashmir and Maoists with how SL army dealt with LTTE and equating the collateral damage in both countries? Then you are naive at the least. One country used heavy artillery and airforce against its own people recklessly and mercilessly while the other country refrains from using heavy weapons even against the foreign terrorists thus causing the deaths of its own soldiers. You need to know the difference.

As for India help for SL in the SL war, it has been discussed to death here how India provided crucial support in destroing the LTTE weapons bases.

I have seen the operation bluestar videos......indian army too used tanks and heavy artillery...............but i accept the fact that collateral damage occurs

Why don't ppl accept that LTTE was destroying sri lanka from within like maoists are in case of india or khalistanis were??

I don't want to be a hypocrite despite being a sikh who knows how innocents were killed in punjab

 

[SRP]

pls read

Sri Lanka Defends China
China Base a Threat to India Navy? | The Diplomat
Sri Lanka is no pearl on China's string, Rajapaksa says | Reuters
India`s response to Sinhala-Chinese Naval base in Hambanthota.... - Sri Lanka

there is no official announcement but these rumours carry the merit.....................pls read an interview i posted here of sri lankan president too

Those are speculations. This port is very close to International shipping lane and if they give it to China to make a naval base, they will not only antagonize India also US. And you know what US do to keep its interest intact.