India snubs China, to attend Nobel ceremony

[luckyyy]

Party members are so common in China, that most people will likely have family members or friends who are members of the CCP.

so you are a member of communist party of china..

and i supposed few more who has been very vocal in their support of chinese communist party policies too are members..

what's point left been a unbiased discussion...

like a member of a political party in india slso will only keep on defending every nonscence done by thier party...

 

[sensenreason]

Maybe not an intentional one, but perceptions can vary a lot from country to country.

Delaying Hafiz Sayeed's banning by UN is a far worse and damaging act against India, than India attending nobel prize ceremony with 150 other countries.What China did with Sayeed was to support Pakistan when no one was doing so...

At some point, these fellows like Sayeed will be made to target Western China,we will talk then...

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

so you are a member of communist party of china..

No I'm not a member of the party, I don't know where you read that.

In HK it's relatively more rare to have family members in the party, however I have a lot of mainland friends who are.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Delaying Hafiz Sayeed's banning by UN is a far worse and damaging act against India, than India attending nobel prize ceremony with 150 other countries.What China did with Sayeed was to support Pakistan when no one was doing so...

At some point, these fellows like Sayeed will be made to target Western China,we will talk then...

I have no idea who Hafiz Sayeed is, so I don't think I can respond to that question.

Secondly if China is supporting Pakistan then that is perfectly natural to us, considering that we are allies.

 

[Abhishek_]

I agree that this is a trivial matter, not worth mentioning, even if India go, Chinese members may be just a little disappointed. Although I think anything needs to accumulate the small things, including trust and goodwill.

well put. I think we should stop the discussion at this point.
Even though GOI has not clarified its position, it will not drastically alter the current equation.
I for one would still want GOI to abstain, I personally feel India has more to gain from a friendly china rather than a paper ceremony (with nil tangible results). If we decide to abstain I don't think the western govt. will take it too seriously either, they still need our money for all the damn defense deals.

 

[BigTree.CN]

Probably a good time to mention that my grandfather was a very early member of the party (during the Japanese war).

And I am a CCP member.

 

[LaBong]

And I am a CCP member.

That explains lot of things!

Just joking, don't get all worked up. My father was a member of Communist party of India too so kinda know how it all works!

 

[Lala_Peace]

How come India snubbed China? India just did what it needs to do. India has the moral right to participate in this event, forget any political reason. What China say or expect is their belief? China does not believe in Indian democracy, so is India going to turn communist?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Just joking, don't get all worked up. My father was a member of Communist party of India too so kinda know how it all works!

That's an interesting perspective, but I think that the party structure and internal mechanisms would most likely be completely different.

 

[Bang Galore]

Fair enough if that is your opinion, I would personally say though (given the fact that I spend a lot of time in the mainland, and have many mainland friends) that the perceptions of retaliation over an anonymous international poll are nearly non-existent.

Possible but you and your friends would not be considered representative of ordinary chinese, would you? Just the same as my opinion would not be representative of all Indians.

If 98% of the Chinese were happy, why is the state still jailing dissidents? Are they worried that the opinion of satisfaction is merely ephemeral & might bring on a flood when tested?

 

[CardSharp]

And I am a CCP member.

Well then you've just loss credibility with the Indian members here, prepare to get accused of being Wu Mao Dang...

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Possible but you and your friends would not be considered representative of ordinary chinese, would you? Just the same as my opinion would not be representative of all Indians.

If 98% of the Chinese were happy, why is the state still jailing dissidents? Are they worried that the opinion of satisfaction is merely ephemeral & might bring on a flood?

Yes that's why I said it was my personal opinion.

Well a small percentage of people are obviously going to be dissidents... this is true in any country, look at the insurgencies in India such as the Maoists, Kashmir, and the NE insurgency for instance.

Those groups will take up arms, but the dissidents in China will find it difficult to get their hands on any real weapons. So they don't get as much attention but what they are doing is still illegal.

 

[LaBong]

That's an interesting perspective, but I think that the party structure and internal mechanisms would most likely be completely different.

Well they all religiously stick to same party official statements and refuse to listen to any alternative idea. Also have somekinda 'with us or against us' sentiment.

 

[BigTree.CN]

Prepare to get accused of being a Wu Mao Dang...

Well, that has already happened to me before I said I am a CCP member.

 

[Abhishek_]

Possible but you and your friends would not be considered representative of ordinary chinese, would you? Just the same as my opinion would not be representative of all Indians.

If 98% of the Chinese were happy, why is the state still jailing dissidents? Are they worried that the opinion of satisfaction is merely ephemeral & might bring on a flood when tested?

BG I have a fair number of chinese friends at my university, overall they have similar views of their govt. I hope that counts.