India snubs China, to attend Nobel ceremony

[Chinese-Dragon]

We heard you the first time.

LOL it's funny when you arrange all his posts like that.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Well, India is entitled to ignore Chinese sensitivities, and China is entitled to do the same to India, that is what I was trying to say.

In India's case we are willing to do so,Our stance on Tibetian protests being a proof.

Same cannot be said about China.

The denial of Visa to a Kashmir based general is naked and blatant way of putting it that you don't value our concerns/sensitivities.

Simple reason being that in no way India is of any use to China as long as we aren't an enemy's ally.

 

[prototype]

Well, India is entitled to ignore Chinese sensitivities, and China is entitled to do the same to India, that is what I was trying to say.

Some Indian members suggest China should just let it go, that is hilarious.

This time India disrespects our concerns, next time we will do the same to you. I just hope there won't be some thread by Indians condemning China ignores your sensitivities.

so basically that means we r running in circles,we ignored u,u ignored us,we ignored u,then again if that was the prevailant norm,then why this kind of reaction,it was bound to happen

 

[luckyyy]

i actually agreed with some of india members here on the point that chinese gov is a bit over reacted for this small issue. but then i had a second thought and think chinese gov is doing the right thing to send out a strong signal to the west hey enough is enough we are not going to take this lightly this time. chinese gov has been taking this nobel peace price sh!t for so long ever since dalai got it but didn't put in good efforts making too much troubles to the nobel peace price committe and the like behind. seems they are changing to adapt an aggressive strategy now because the old 'ignore' strategy didn't work. today's china has enough economic power to make a difference-- countries have to take side for this small issue, nobody will feel comfortable in this kind of situation. when nobody feels comfortable in a game ppl may start think if it's worth to do this game again in the future.

so china going to terminate economic relation with those who are attanding...

 

[LaBong]

I've said this more than once but I couldn't give two sh*ts really. It's the big picture that counts.

I don't expect, nor do I believe, that anything good will come out of Indian relations with China.

Let me tell you something. When you don't give sh*ts, you just don't give sh*ts and people understand. You don't harp about not giving sh*ts.

Anyways, drink a glass of water, lit up a cig if you smoke and stop taking internet so seriously.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Yes, but that's just a coincidence.

Would you please give me some insight about the big picture also?

For you Abir, sure.

The big picture is that China and India are geopolitical rivals, and this is borne out of our close geographical proximity as well as the expansion of both spheres of interest.

The polls (Pew global attitudes for one) clearly show that the majority of people in China and India both dislike and distrust the other country.

All the actions so far taken by both sides reinforce that fact. I have read the Indian media from time to time, and I have seen the almost pathological hatred that comes out against us.

 

[LaBong]

i actually agreed with some of india members here on the point that chinese gov is a bit over reacted for this small issue. but then i had a second thought and think chinese gov is doing the right thing to send out a strong signal to the west hey enough is enough we are not going to take this lightly this time. chinese gov has been taking this nobel peace price sh!t for so long ever since dalai got it but didn't put in good efforts making too much troubles to the nobel peace price committe and the like behind. seems they are changing to adapt an aggressive strategy now because the old 'ignore' strategy didn't work. today's china has enough economic power to make a difference-- countries have to take side for this small issue, nobody will feel comfortable in this kind of situation. when nobody feels comfortable in a game ppl may start think if it's worth to do this game again in the future.

I think India has needlessly been dragged to west's conflict with China. We don't really care if west has a beef with china or vice versa, they should sort that out by themselves. Why dragging India in between, why not any other country like Brazil, Germany, Turkey etc!

 

[BigTree.CN]

India have good diplomatic relation's with Norway,by abstaining from this function only after Chinese call,does not mean straining relation's with a friend?

Once again I want to clarify I am not questionning India's choice, you are entitled to do what you deem is best for your interest.

But I, as a Chinese, can't ignore the fact Chinese interest is being harmed by India's decision to attend the ceremony.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Let me tell you something. When you don't give sh*ts, you just don't give sh*ts and people understand. You don't harp about not giving sh*ts.

Anyways, drink a glass of water, lit up a cig if you smoke and stop taking internet so seriously.

Yeah buddy tell me in exactly which post did I "expect" a different reaction from the GoI? I expected exactly this, it simply reinforced what I had already expected.

I think India has needlessly been dragged to west's conflict with China. We don't really care if west has a beef with china or vice versa, they should sort that out by themselves. Why dragging India in between, why not any other country like Brazil, Germany, Turkey etc!

What breaks that argument is that the Indian media is obsessed with China in a way that I have never seen from any other country.

 

[Rig Vedic]

I have said in another thread, the attitude taken by Indian towards the terrorist who are killing innocent Chinese is the attitude I am gonna take towards terrorists who are killing innocnet Indians.

Blocking a ban on an orgnization that is yet to be called terrorists is much better than harbouring a group of terrorists.

China does not claim that India is hosting any terrorists.

China's past votes on the Jamaat-ud-Dawah are a part of the UN record.

 

[luckyyy]

Once again I want to clarify I am not questionning India's choice, you are entitled to do what you deem is best for your interest.

But I, as a Chinese, can't ignore the fact Chinese interest is being harmed by India's decision to attend the ceremony.

coz india can't side with supporters of terrorists...

 

[Bang Galore]

You just answered your own question. Because we do not like India, and this action was just an unsurprising continuation of a typical mentality.

You misunderstand the question. Since as you claim, sarcastically or otherwise that it was unsurprising continuation,I asked why the surprise with the Indian reaction?

Thanks for the other thread by the way.

I have to guess with this one. Seeing what you have written above, it must be about the fake medicine stuff. Find your reference amusing. There's a nice story that you might know of .

Two Buddhist Monks were on a journey, one was more senior than the other. During their journey they approached a rough and raging river. On the river bank they saw a young woman. She was clearly in need of help to cross to the other side of the river without drowning.

The junior monk walked straight past her without giving it a thought and crossed the river. The senior monk offered to help the woman and carried her across the river. Once across they parted ways and the two monks continued on their journey.

As the journey continued, the senior monk could see that the junior monk had something of concern on his mind, and asked what was wrong. The junior monk replied, "How could you carry that woman like that? You know we can't touch women, it's against our way of life". The senior monk answered, "I left the woman at the rivers edge a long way back, why are you still carrying her?"

 

[huzihaidao12]

In India's case we are willing to do so,Our stance on Tibetian protests being a proof.

Same cannot be said about China.

The denial of Visa to a Kashmir based general is naked and blatant way of putting it that you don't value our concerns/sensitivities.

Simple reason being that in no way India is of any use to China as long as we aren't an enemy's ally.

In Tibet, do you think that China will ease on India's position after 2008? Everyone knows what happened in 2008, that wanted me to explain.

 

[LaBong]

Yeah buddy tell me in exactly which post did I "expect" a different reaction from the GoI? I expected exactly this, it simply reinforced what I already believed.

Tell me what did you expect from neutral countries like Turkey, Brazil, South Africa etc. India matters as much as they matter to China. All of them yield same if not more influence to world's geo-politic as does India.

Even Russia which is an ally of China made it clear that the reason of them not attending the ceremony ISN'T controversial peace prize.

 

[prototype]

Once again I want to clarify I am not questionning India's choice, you are entitled to do what you deem is best for your interest.

But I, as a Chinese, can't ignore the fact Chinese interest is being harmed by India's decision to attend the ceremony.

I respect that emotion as it is bound to happen due to ur nationality,the same is also applicable to india,acting for our own interest's

India already have strained relation's with china which will remain so for a long time due to the inevitability factor as CD described due to geopolitical position's

for a nation that does not enjoy the best of the relation with India,it dont make any sense to infuriate one more nation