India should seriously consider "limited war" with Pakistan: Lal Singh

[Armchair]

Indians really need to make up their mind whether they want peace or war or limited war or cold start war or hot war, or status quo... what does she want? Women, you never understand them, sometimes they just need a good...

 

[Kuru]

This does not exist between Pakistan and Nepal.

It was a hypothetical scenario to make a point. I don't know why you wanna take it personally.

This conversation couldn't go beyond the example thingy. It's getting boring now. If you still don't understand, there is no reason why you should quote me on this. May be we'll have a good debate on some other topic some day.

 

[Zarvan]

They should really try it would love to hit them back and hit them hard. They in Kargil despite bringing 40000 against 2000 of our soldiers failed to get all the peaks back and in 2002 lost 2000 soldiers without fighting a major war. They can do nothing

 

[Clutch]

India should seriously consider a "limited war with Pakistan" as the time had come to teach the neighbouring country a lesson, former Jammu and Kashmir minister and BJP leader Choudhary Lal Singh said here today.

Singh's outburst came in the wake of killing of four BSF personnel, including an officer, in firing by Pakistani Rangers in the Ramgarh sector in Samba district.

"Time has come to make the cost of military engagement of any kind with India unaffordable for Pakistan ..

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Why was the Kashmir minister and BJP leader Choudhary Lal Singh of Jammu Kashmir a Hindu?... Makes no sense??

 

[delta2]

Ill give you an example: Pakistan will avoid attacking a country like Nepal, not because Pakistan is "impotant, weak or powerless" as you put it, but because it isn't wise to attack a small country. So I just leave it at that.

But yes, when Nepal attacks Pakistan (hypothetically speaking), then Pakistan will make sure that Nepal is disintegrated. Just Like India had done to Pakistan in the past.

Does that make sense ?

My post that you quoted was a reply to someone who had mentioned nuclear war. I was merely pointing out that such guys have no confidence in Pak Army, that's why they mention nuclear bombs every now and then because nuclear war is their only hope in case there is a war with India. These guys are convinced that there is no way Pak Army can defeat India in a conventional war.

Hope that helps.

Your dad the USSR had more to do with the the break up. You only followed the plan they laid out for you.

Just wait till the United States withdraws from Afghanistan. Then we will see.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Promise is already delivered in the form of surgical strikes of last year.

 

[Kuru]

Your dad the USSR had more to do with the the break up. You only followed the plan they laid out for you.

If it gives you peace, you have my permission to believe that.

Just wait till the United States withdraws from Afghanistan. Then we will see.

US wasn't around for a good 50+ years (till 2001 may be). What did you do?

 

[xyxmt]

every day new drama . war peace limited war cold war hot war wet war dry war air war sab bakwaas

not to mention two front war

I will say it in their language

YEH JEENA BHI KOI JEENA HAY LALU

 

[delta2]

If it gives you peace, you have my permission to believe that.


US wasn't around for a good 50+ years (till 2001 may be). What did you do?

We beat the hell out of you and defeated you in 1948.

We wiped out your Mig fleet in 1965 and humiliated you in front of the whole world despite being a force smaller in numbers.

1971, you couldn't do jack sht on the western front. We were back stabbed by our own brothers in the East. You just followed the plan the Soviets gave you.

Before that, we ruled you for 1000 years!

You were educated in India by Indians and therefore have absolutely zero understanding of the Cold War dynamics.

As I said before, and even said that to an Indian professor of mine once, just wait till the USA leaves Afghanistan.


Pakistan was threatened with a nuclear strike because aerial spying of the USSR space was being done via the Peshawar base. I bet they never taught you that in any of your classes either.

Krushchev had visited the Indian Occupied Kashmir and had given you Indians assurances but even then you were too much of cowards to do anything.

We were allied with the USA, and we still are allies of with the USA. During the Cold War the two super powers were ready to wipe out each other and the whole world, and there were many indirect conflicts taking place at that time because of that friction. The Korean war, the Vietnam war, the Suez canal issue, the Cuban crisis etc etc.

The Soviets were behind the Marxist Baloch rebels and they tried their best to break Balochi areas from Pakistan. They were successful in Bangladesh because of the natural disaster and politicised the perceived lack of aid from West Pakistan. But above all because our own brothers back stabbed us.

 

[indianfighter1999]

we r alreay fighting a limited war, the time is here to fight a full blown war and end this cycle of limited wars

 

[indianfighter1999]

pakis will need to run to Papa Cheen for support first.

doesnt matter chinese will surely try to provide them defense stuff but will never get involved as likely nuclear exchange is expected between India pak.
No sane country will get involved.

 

[blueazure]

limited war, aka cold start ? poor man's blitzkrieg ? how does india intend to play that ? what assurances has LOK SOBHA zealots given to the indian army planners that this wont spiral out of control given the fact that india's conventional edge against pakistan is fast eroding ( even man to man, gun to gun )

in all fairness , indias hybrid war has hurt pakistan far more

, one su 30 costs 25 mil USD , ( will be shot after dropping 2,3 bombs on pakistan )

for the same 25mil USD, india is training, equipping and paying 1000 rebel insurgents and causing mayham all over pakistan and is bogging down entire brigades / divisions

 

[Kuru]

We beat the hell out of you and defeated you in 1948.

We wiped out your Mig fleet in 1965 and humiliated you in front of the whole world despite being a force smaller in numbers.

1971, you couldn't do jack sht on the western front. We were back stabbed by our own brothers in the East. You just followed the plan the Soviets gave you.

Seems you have won all the Wars. Cool. So did you free Kashmir in any one of them (which by the way was your main and only objective) ?

Before that, we ruled

Hey guys, I found one more Hindu convert who is suffering from identity crisis, yay !

You were educated in India by Indians and therefore have absolutely zero understanding of the Cold War dynamics.

Ok.

Pakistan was threatened with a nuclear strike because aerial spying of the USSR space was being done via the Peshawar base. I bet they never taught you that in any of your classes either.

Yeah they never thought me that Soviets threatened Pakistan with "nuclear strike" in Peshawar. A link will be appreciated.

Krushchev had visited the Indian Occupied Kashmir and had given you Indians assurances but even then you were too much of cowards to do anything.

We were allied with the USA, and we still are allies of with the USA. During the Cold War the two super powers were ready to wipe out each other and the whole world, and there were many indirect conflicts taking place at that time because of that friction. The Korean war, the Vietnam war, the Suez canal issue, the Cuban crisis etc etc.

The Soviets were behind the Marxist Baloch rebels and they tried their best to break Balochi areas from Pakistan. They were successful in Bangladesh because of the natural disaster and politicised the perceived lack of aid from West Pakistan. But above all because our own brothers back stabbed us.

I'm trying to figure out what has this got to do with what I was talking about.

 

[TOPGUN]

Just try and you shall find out what happens … never talk about friendship and peace pathetic people.

 

[BHarwana]

I have ignore this thread for quite some time but I think I should shed my 2 cents here.

India should fight a limited war with Pakistan because India cannot fight Pakistan more than 10 days. After that India will lose any war against Pakistan and this statement of mine don't include Nuclear weapons. I am talking about conventional war.