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India shoots down Pakistan spy drone claim

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Drones used by Indian armed forces (Picture for representation purpose only)
As New Delhi and Islamabad make efforts to normalise bilateral ties at the political level, Pakistan's army on Wednesday claimed to have shot down an alleged Indian spy plane on the Line of Control in Jammu and Kashmir, a charge denied by the Indian armed forces.

The Pakistan army's Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) claimed in a statement that an "Indian spy drone" was brought down in Bhimber area on the LoC after it violated Pakistan airspace.

A photograph of the crashed drone was also released by ISPR, which claimed that the flying object had violated Pakistan's territorial integrity. The Indian side treated the claim with caution and the armed forces quickly denied having lost any of their assets on the border.

Sources also said that the picture of the downed drone being splashed in the media did not resemble any of the unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) used by the Indian armed forces. "The identity of the object cannot be verified but from what has appeared in the photograph, it certainly did not belong to the armed forces," said an official.

The Indian military has been using Israeli Heron and Searcher drones for intelligence gathering, surveillance and target acquisitions. The size of these drones is much bigger than what is seen in the picture of the crashed flying object.

"The drone shown in the picture is very small, with a very limited endurance, and meant to be operated in a highly localised environment," an official said on the condition of anonymity.

In a late night development, the Pakistan government is learned to have summoned the Indian high commissioner to the foreign office in Islamabad on Thursday to protest against what it calls violation of the Line of Control, besides attempts to spy on its territory.

Doubts over timing

Some Indian defence officials also raised questions over the timing of Pakistan's claim and wondered if it could be some sort of a ploy to derail the growing bonhomie. The claim was made amid reports of an Indian woman being killed on the International Border (IB) by Pakistan Rangers.

Three others -- two civilians and a BSF constable -- were also injured in the firing from Pakistan's side, a local police officer claimed. The firing on the International Border was reported while Prime Minister Narendra Modi held talks in Ufa, Russia, with his Pakistan counterpart Nawaz Sharif.

There have been contradictory signals from Pakistan after the two sides agreed on a joint statement in Ufa, which was termed as a step forward in breaking the stalemate and resuming bilateral talks.

New Delhi has downplayed Pakistan security adviser Sartaj Aziz's remark that the dialogue "cannot take place with India unless the Kashmir issue is included in the agenda".

Indian officials explained that Aziz was addressing the domestic audience and India will remain committed to the Ufa joint statement which surmised the sense of the meeting between Modi and Sharif. Significantly, the statement was read out jointly by the foreign secretaries of the two countries.

The claim by Pakistan's army about downing the "Indian spy drone" and the ongoing firing at the International Border is being seen in India as a statement from the military establishment to the political leadership in Islamabad.

Power play

Officials said it was the outcome of the internal power play of Pakistan and should be left at that. The joint statement has given a new direction to ties between the two neighbours and Pakistan should now walk the talk for normalising relations.

The officials said that trouble on the border often follows any attempt to normalise ties at the political level. The armed forces continue to be in a high state of alert to keep the situation under control, defence officials said.

India shoots down Pakistan spy drone claim
The picture in news is enough to expose the lie being promoted here that this drone is not in use of Indian Forces.
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This is indeed embarrassing for Pakistanis ...

Blame game on between India, Pakistan over China-made 'spy' drone: All you need to know - Firstpost
Pakistan shot down 'made in China' 'spy' drone belonging to its own police force: Sources - IBNLive


Shooting down their own drone and then pinning it on India..LOL.. no wonder no one takes Pakistan seriously.
 
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This is indeed embarrassing for Pakistanis ...

Blame game on between India, Pakistan over China-made 'spy' drone: All you need to know - Firstpost
Pakistan shot down 'made in China' 'spy' drone belonging to its own police force: Sources - IBNLive


Shooting down their own drone and then pinning it on India..LOL.. no wonder no one takes Pakistan seriously.

BS from indian media as usual... have you guys ever come clean.. ever accepted the truth?

back in early 2000s... indian Searcher UAV was shot down.. and displayed to media... guess what... you still didnt accept that it was your own...

you are just shameless...
 
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Did Pakistan Shoot Down Its Own Drone? Survey This Evidence

All India | Reported by Vishnu Som, Edited by Deepshikha Ghosh | Updated: July 16, 2015 19:13 IST

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The drone that Pakistan claims to have shot down looks like those used by its own police, say experts




NEW DELHI: India on Thursday said the drone that Pakistan claimed to have shot down, alleging that it was an "Indian spy drone", was in fact a Chinese one available off the shelf.

Pakistan had summoned India's envoy this morning and alleged that India had violated two agreements on air space violations with a drone that was shot down near the Line of Control in Bhimber in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. The drone was being used for "aerial photography," Pakistan's Inter Services Public Relations alleged.

A photo supplied by the Pakistani military appeared to show a Chinese-made DJI Phantom 3.

"It is not a drone of Indian design, it is not available in the Indian inventory. It looks like a drone of Chinese design, commercially available off-the-shelf," said Indian Foreign Secretary S Jaishanker this evening.

Experts say the model is sold commercially for aerial filming and would contain no secret military technology. Anyone can buy it for around Rs 1.5 lakh on eBay.

Did Pakistan shoot down its own drone? Experts say it is possible.

Top officials in India say drones of this make are used by the Pakistan police and is quite unlike larger UAVs or Unmanned Aerial Vehicles used by the armed forces for high altitude reconnaissance or armed drones like the ones used by the US to target terrorists on Pakistani soil.

Indian forces and police use the indigenous "Nethra" drones manufactured by Ideaforge and the Defence Research and Development Organisation.

The Indian forces also use advanced Israeli made Searcher and Heron UAVs or Unmanned Aerial Vehicles.

Pakistan has been pushing for its own lethal drones, and often protests that the US drone strikes targeted at the Taliban and al Qaeda are an infringement of its national sovereignty.

In March, the Pakistani military announced it had test-fired its own drone equipped with a laser-guided missile. Analysts said the video showed a drone similar to models produced by Pakistan's close ally China.
Story First Published: July 16, 2015 15:28 IST

 
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The embarrassing part is, getting all worked up and making a big huha(ISPR issuing a statements, note of protests being issued to Indian high commissioner, calling it an India spy drone as if you brought down a Reaper) after a chinese toy drone.
An unauthorized drone was shot down close to the LoC - the location and motive point to the Indian security establishment. ISPR issued a statement in line with the available facts at the time.

The Indian security establishment could have chose this particular drone to carry out flights over Pakistani territory precisely because it would give them plausible deniability in case it was shot down.

..which just might be your, own.
For all circumstantial evidence points to it.

No one ever seen Indian security agencies operation these Chinese toys.

Where as Pakistani law enforcement agencies regular use these exact same drones.
The circumstantial evidence points to India, in terms of motive. The drone does not have the range to fly to the LoC if it was being operated by the Punjab police, nor would the PP have any reason to carry out flights around the LoC on the Pakistani side.

Just because the Punjab Police bought a particular model from a Chinese company does not mean the Chinese company decided to never sell this commercial drone to anyone else. There is an image of the Mumbai police holding a similar confiscated drone, so apparently it is available for sale to Indians/in India.
 
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Toy drone had camera with it to take pictures of our posts so not a toy drone Mr
:-) I used to see a similar toy drones in lavish Indian weddings which is used for taking video recordings!

And now, drones click couples at weddings - The Times of India
Dancing baraatis want drones at weddings - The Times of India


Get over buddy!

Why would the enemy accept that it was there drone.
And why do we need their acceptance, anyway.
You perfectly make sense buddy!

With 40 Billion USD defence budget... Indian drones does not have to appear this cheap!

Even if India sent the Drone, you shot it down.... Let's celebrate! Why make such huge fuss about it!
 
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Chalo. Let the Pakistanis rejoice at the shooting of a toy on the border. Meanwhile somewhere near that border some child is crying because the expensive toy which he/she got is now missing. And in Pakistan, the military claims that they have embarrassed India by shooting down its over the top technology which was spying on the Pakistani army :D
 
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