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India rejects OIC remarks on Kashmir

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Somebody should Quote mushraaf's last talk on kashmir. "No Independent Kashmir".
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/jun2005-daily/15-06-2005/main/main1.htm
He has said yes to independent Kashmir in other occasions. This doesn't mean Pak won't be willing to make Kashmir independent. It just means we won't do it unilaterally. Musharraf said the same when he mentioned Independent Kashmir.

Dude tell me this, how can you so forcefully call some people Your people and their land your land when they hate and despise you? Tell me this if they were given the chance to push a button and choose whether they want to stay with India or not, would you give them that chance?
 
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Please go read about accession treaty especially concerning the principalities;
SSG were rounded by local people when they came in 1965. this so called terrorist attacks are the creation of ISI oddly enough they came after 1989..A good 40years after Independence. And YES!!!they are Indians, if they dont like it as I have said; Ship Out. I am all for giving them a choice to decide, So according to UN, Pakistan has to remove its soldiers first for that to happen. You havent!!!So please blame yourself.
 
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Please go read about accession treaty especially concerning the principalities;
SSG were rounded by local people when they came in 1965. this so called terrorist attacks are the creation of ISI oddly enough they came after 1989..A good 40years after Independence. And YES!!!they are Indians, if they dont like it as I have said; Ship Out. I am all for giving them a choice to decide, So according to UN, Pakistan has to remove its soldiers first for that to happen. You havent!!!So please blame yourself.
Dude Militants would not have come if India would've played ball on the UN Resolutions and allowed for a plebiscite.

So 40 years of slavery under India is not a good reason enough to launch all out attacks on to Indians?

And that crap about Pak has to remove its soldiers is BS. There was another resolution to which India and Pak both signed and it stated that Pak has to reduce its troop presence to between 3000 and 6000 while India gets to keep upto 18000 troops. So don't give me that crap...
 
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Also read this, a report from Human Rights Watch from Andhra Pradesh:

Saturday May 12, 2007

Indian-controlled Kashmir is under virtual martial law

SRINAGAR, India (AP): The military runs Indian-controlled Kashmir as if it were under martial law, denying basic freedoms and repeatedly targeting civilians, according to a report by Indian human rights activists.

The report, issued Friday after a weeklong fact-finding mission to the Himalayan region, accuses the military of having a vice-like grip on the civilian population.

"The rural areas continue to be completely captive to the armed forces, and the people can do nothing which does not meet the approval of the army,'' said the report, signed by 11 prominent Indian rights activists.

"The army, which is supposed to merely aid the civil administration under the Armed Forces Special Powers Act, has completely supplanted the civil administration. The only name for this is martial law,'' said the report, authored by K. Balagopal of the Human Rights Forum, a group based in the southern Indian state of Andhra Pradesh.

The mission also included activists from the Andhra Pradesh Civil Liberties Committee, the People's Democratic Forum of Karnataka and the Center for the Study of Developing Societies.

The activists also accused the military of using civilians as human shields while trying to detain militants, arresting minors, and employing criminal gangs to help subjugate the population.

The military denied the charges, saying any civilian suffering was caused by militants operating within the civilian population.

"Civilians suffer because of the presence of militants in civilian clothes in the civil areas,'' said Lt. Col. A.K. Mathur, an army spokesman in Srinagar, the summer capital of India's Jammu-Kashmir state.

Jammu-Kashmir is India's only Muslim-majority state, and most of its people favor independence from mainly Hindu India, or a merger with predominantly Muslim Pakistan.

India has an estimated 700,000 soldiers in Kashmir, fighting nearly a dozen rebel groups since a separatist insurgency erupted in 1989. In many areas, the region has the feel of an occupied country, with soldiers in full combat gear patrolling streets and frisking civilians.

More than 68,000 people, most of them civilians, have been killed in the conflict.

The rebels have also been frequently accused of rights violations, particularly against civilians suspected of working with the army.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...27&sec=apworld
 
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Dude Militants would not have come if India would've played ball on the UN Resolutions and allowed for a plebiscite.

So 40 years of slavery under India is not a good reason enough to launch all out attacks on to Indians?

And that crap about Pak has to remove its soldiers is BS. There was another resolution to which India and Pak both signed and it stated that Pak has to reduce its troop presence to between 3000 and 6000 while India gets to keep upto 18000 troops. So don't give me that crap...

Actually that Crap is true!!! so as I said read up. They have to reduce, Yes. Pakistan first according to that resolution. So reduce.and then we will talk. til then please blame your government, Last time I checked; I shared my room with 4 Kashmiri's; and they are no slaves to me or anyone!!!!! ISI tried a bangladesh on us and failed miserably.
 
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Adux,
If you believe that Kashmir problem should be resolved than honestly what do you suggest? How can it be done and made acceptable to all parties!
 
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Actually that Crap is true!!! so as I said read up. They have to reduce, Yes. Pakistan first according to that resolution. So reduce.and then we will talk. til then please blame your government, Last time I checked; I shared my room with 4 Kashmiri's; and they are no slaves to me or anyone!!!!! ISI tried a bangladesh on us and failed miserably.
Dude it's a mutual reduction. Your (India's) entire attitude towards this very serious issue is quite silly.
 
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Since OIC is all for Muslims causes over the world does this also include Balouch and Kurds in Turkey? Or is there some "specific" conditions on this world wide Muslim causes?
 
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The OIC holds no weight it is held just to say there is such a thing called OIC other than that its really empty has no importance. At one point in history it had some impact on the world though that time has gone.
 
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Adux,
If you believe that Kashmir problem should be resolved than honestly what do you suggest? How can it be done and made acceptable to all parties!

Nobody will move an inch, Check out a thread here where Dabong , Neo and me had a good conversation on this. The only way is to give some option of travel on both sides.
 
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Nobody will move an inch, Check out a thread here where Dabong , Neo and me had a good conversation on this. The only way is to give some option of travel on both sides.

Only time will tell.
 
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The OIC holds no weight it is held just to say there is such a thing called OIC other than that its really empty has no importance. At one point in history it had some impact on the world though that time has gone.

How can you say that?
 
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He is talking about 1970's oil crisis, that time will not happen again;
 
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