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India pressuring Bangladesh to sign defense treaty

I doubt either US or france would have supported either side materially... however US would have supported pakistan politically in UN, which would have meant pressure both parties to talk. I am not sure bengali leadership would have struck to independence line... and not some other deal like devolution.
The western world did not give a damn about kurds under Saddam's regime why would they care about another 3rd world country when they got friendly leaders of pakistan who is even helping to fight bigger cause like communism... you seriously think east pakistan would have mattered much? how long the hippies been talking about palestine?
What political support US gave to Pakistan when Bangladesh was getting independent? USA was one the first country to recognise Bangladesh in 1972.I tell you, US accepted the possibility of Independent East Pakistan as early as in 1970.They mentally prepared themselves for such an eventuality.Is is true, Charlie de Gaulle's wish was just a wish,but don't think US or China would have rescued Pakistan if they get bogged down in Bangladesh conflict.Best they would have pressed Pakistan to do a far reaching compromise with Awami League leadership.And we all know,what would have been the result of a settlement with Awami League.Independence only a few step ahead.

And with or without India,Soviet Union and the communist block would have supported diplomatically and materially Bangladesh if US had done any move on part of Pakistan other than lip service.Then communist block helped many freedom movement when they perceived new country would follow a socialist path.Even their best friend China was a reluctant supporter of Pakistani occupation force in Bangladesh which clearly goes against their ideology.Bhutto flew to Peking for the assurance of Chinese help if things turn bad for Pakistan.But China committed no real help and tried to convince Pakistani leadership to find a political settlement.Bhutto returned to Karachi disheartened.Entire world know that East Pakistan was a lost cause except current egoistic Indian for known reason specially the PDF indian.
 
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Here is how indian infiltration and control establish inside Bangladesh armed forces.

Special Indian visa camp at Dhaka Cantonment



News Report The High Commission of India, in partnership with the Armed Forces Division, Prime Minister's Office, Government of Bangladesh, organised a special visa camp for family members of serving and retired Armed Forces personnel on 18 February at Sena Malancha in Dhaka Cantonment, said a press release of the High Commission of India. The camp was jointly inaugurated by the High Commissioner of India to Bangladesh Harsh Vardhan Shringla and Lt Gen Mahfuzur Rahman, rcds, afwc, psc, PhD, Principal Staff Officer, Armed Forces Division.

http://www.newstoday.com.bd/index.php?option=details&news_id=2464754&date=2017-02-18
 
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Im saying the time would have been much much reduced if there was. Which is exactly what happened with BD.

If France had a military dictatorship, it would have continued on much past 12 years too.



Way better armed and trained than any rag tag resistance force BD would have had for a few months before they ran out of ammo and all got lined up and shot.

When you exclusively rely on an occupier for your weapons and ammo, you simply will not win if you have nothing else going for you (like say control of munition factories, strategic depth, foreign diaspora money, foreign supply chains).

Nothing would have got through to help (which you would severely need past a few months)...and it would have just ended in a low level insurgency over time....mid level at best. Armies only really get put under pressure by high level insurgency, BD resistance simply could not put up this level for any decent amount of time....and where you gonna put it? There wasn't even any valuable things to hold, the whole place is pretty tiny and has not even an ammunition factory.



So? They had the people with the guns, the organisation and training all in higher levels than any rag tag resistance you could concoct in an insulated environment.

Over time they could replenish this way better than you ever could too. It would have been a quite unfair fight in the long term....and it ends with you lot being crushed. Sure you might keep the embers flaring here and there, but without anyone giving you any buffer, sanctuary, money and arms from outside....you are done. You are effectively thousands of fish squeezed into a barrel with a couple piranha here and there, it is a very non-ideal situation to try surmount any resistance against an occupier willing to do whatever necessary to achieve objectives. Lots of fishies die from saturated shotgun blast, and eventually over time they figure out the piranha have to go for them to even live. Sorry you are not some special superhuman viking-gurkha hybrid fanatic people. Can continue a low level insurgency past the original failed struggle for sure....but I judge Pakistan to deal with that long term. They acquired nuclear weapons now didnt they? The level of military saturation in their society/GDP is high, this would only help them to deal with anything you continue long term in this hypothetical scenario.



Not if they don't have the basic means and environment to continue something no matter how it may or may not be perceived by what in hindsight is thought to be the "majority".

Ever wonder why we only really know about the guerillas that eventually "won"? Want me to list all the times such failed...often terribly? Why no one really knows about them?...especially how they outnumber the wins by a huge magnitude.

We all like a good story to feel better about ourselves....where the underdog surmounts all odds and beats Goliath. It has an effect on historicity more than you can imagine. Unfortunately in real life, it is nowhere near 100% clear cut trend.



You say a "few stragglers"....but many other BD members here dispute that to this day.....that they were sizeable and even the majority. Who to believe in reality? We got some genuine neutral source regarding this? Oh right, we dont. History written by the victors etc etc.



Not talking about the details of why theres a conflict there. Just providing you a living example of what sustained logistics and superior resources do over much time.

Same case with Northern Ireland. Did the IRA get their way even with much popular support and a strong backer right next door...and a huge diaspora in a superpower that funded them?

Logistics + resources are 99% of a conflict (whatever length, whatever intensity).

BD by itself simply did not have it in 1971 to beat W. Pakistan army completely alone over any period of time....short or long.



It not counting to you, doesn't matter at all to us or Pakistan...and beyond those two no one really knows Bangladesh anyway much less its formation story.

Anyone truly neutral with half a brain that does seek out the facts of that formation will plainly realise it came to fruition because of India. You don't cook a biryani with no rice and call it a biryani still :P



Again no one cares, especially about one sole opinion claiming to represent a whole country (esp given the myriad of other opinions on this very subforum from other BD people...which you frequently cry are not real BD people).

No one cares even if it were true...thats how insignificant you are and always will be.



Don't know. Maybe put a poll out there to ask this forum about it (there are some good members with extensive knowledge of the matter) if you have the izzat for it. Of course you dont and wont. You obviously were born with 0, which again explains why 1971 even happened in the first place after 1947. That is the fate of your people....lackeys, foot stools and target practice.

@django Enjoy :P
Almost all insurgencies depend on outside support,,,,,,,,,anyway I think it was the most ridiculous and unworkable idea to have Pakistan and Bangladesh as one nation, eventually we would have got tired of killing them and left on our own accord.Kudos
 
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Does the treaty also say that Bangladesh should stand with India in case of an alien attack or a Zombie Apocalypse?
 
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by the way soviet union was backed and finaced by usa behind close doors. you got played.
book major jordan diary and western technology and soviet economic development would be good read. both zionist states india was in soviet camp.


india belives in the greater india expansion. It is part of thier religious belief system.
Today india is in israel camp.
 
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Some conspiracy theory from me as well :drag:

Senior leader of Bharatiya Janata Party, Subramanian Swamy, on Friday said Bangladesh should compensate India with land for the influx of its citizens into the country.
‘If Bangladesh does not agree to take back its people, then the country should compensate by giving land to India,’ Swamy told a news conference in Guwahati of Assam on Friday, reports Times of India.

Another Bengali daily published from Silchar, Samayik Prasanga, reported Subramanian suggested drawing a parallel line from Sylhet to Khulna and leave the land to India.

http://archive.newagebd.net/4423/bangladesh-should-compensate-india-with-land-for-influx-bjp-leader/

Khulna:
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2017/01/12/india-to-open-a-new-mission-in-bangladeshs-khulna
http://bdnews24.com/economy/2016/07...ign-rampal-power-plant-construction-agreement
Sylhet:
http://bdnews24.com/economy/2017/02/24/india-signs-mou-for-sustainable-development-of-sylhet-city
 
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Have a good cry jamati.

any Bangladeshi label with jamat should be proud because it is only party or organization that is resisting indian occupation and interference. Indians know it by their heart.

Sir @idune, please note that @Doyalbaba is talking of the 1971 pretext and war history. He is certainly not derailing the thread. It is related to the opening thread.

everything in the world does not evolve around 71 and should not be excuse to derail topic discussion.
 
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any Bangladeshi label with jamat should be proud because it is only party or organization that is resisting indian occupation and interference. Indians know it by their heart.



everything in the world does not evolve around 71 and should not be excuse to derail topic discussion.
Show your jamaati support in Pakistan.In Bangladesh there is no place for radical jamaatis.
 
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Show your jamaati support in Pakistan.In Bangladesh there is no place for radical jamaatis.

It is 2017 not 1971. Unlike you; awami thugs subscribed to india originated hindu fundamentalism, anyone specks for Bangladesh interest, it is land their land. You can go to india and promote indian hindu fundamentalism from there, Bangladesh has no place for it.
 
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It is 2017 not 1971. Unlike you; awami thugs subscribed to india originated hindu fundamentalism, anyone specks for Bangladesh interest, it is land their land. You can go to india and promote indian hindu fundamentalism from there, Bangladesh has no place for it.
Following your logic, you should get the hell out of TrumpLand.
 
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It is 2017 not 1971. Unlike you; awami thugs subscribed to india originated hindu fundamentalism, anyone specks for Bangladesh interest, it is land their land. You can go to india and promote indian hindu fundamentalism from there, Bangladesh has no place for it.
Oh so its ok for jamaatis thugs to create bombs and create chaos in country.Is that what you learnt in Islam?
 
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Oh so its ok for jamaatis thugs to create bombs and create chaos in country.Is that what you learnt in Islam?

Looks like this thread exposing indian effort to destroy Bangladesh defense forces riled up indian awami thugs like yourself and desperate to derail the thread.
 
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any Bangladeshi label with jamat should be proud because it is only party or organization that is resisting indian occupation and interference. Indians know it by their heart.
Yes Yes.. no wonder you Jammatis were the very first to congratulate and send best wishes to Modi on victory from BD!
 
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