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Dear MK,
We need to take a step back and look at the big picture first.
Enter the mind of the Universe, amigo... what do you see?
@Oscar wrote a short essay in an other thread in this section regarding the use of secterian delights for harvesting geopolitical dividends.
Apart from a few subtle aspects he has, as you Yanks call it, nailed it.
(Lately, our youngman is showing signs of wisdom. What giveth? French Existentialists?)
Dear MK,
We need to take a step back and look at the big picture first.
Enter the mind of the Universe, amigo... what do you see?
@Oscar wrote a short essay in an other thread in this section regarding the use of secterian delights for harvesting geopolitical dividends.
Apart from a few subtle aspects he has, as you Yanks call it, nailed it.
(Lately, our youngman is showing signs of wisdom. What giveth? French Existentialists?)
Your good Pak is a big bone stuck in the throats of many of your brotherlys and of course a couple of hostiles... indians just luuuuuv Pak to death!
First and far most Truth that your countrymen, Paks, need to accept that there is NO such thing as a muslim world. There are muslim countries. But no world. Too much mess, corruption, backwardness and lack of economic development.
Now why Iran would allow/help indians?
Simple. If Pak can become a middle income country, that is 10.000 per capita GDP, then Iran will be stuck in the vice of Turkey, GCC and your beautiful Pak. All of Iran's ambitions will be squashed. Same goes for GCC... they like a dependent Pak elite. Why would they want another competitor?
For indian empire Kashmir has boxed it, both morally and geopolitically. Without consolidation of Kashmir, Sikkim and South Tibet are not secured at all by the indian empire. Their brovados aside...
A strong and prosperous Pak also creates a existential problem for indians from within i.e. their 250 mln muslim minority. What will this 250 mln minority feel when they see Pak being a success story and their own lives in the ghetto???
Ghetto Blues can be nasty for indians...
So if india can squeez Pak from the West it percieves to solve its misery in the East.
And of course, there is a minor detail of a few Trillions worth of good stuff in the hellhole of AF.
The big boys who have put Mr. Modi in power want their ROIs tenfold. Also, indians think they can employ their terror factories for the benefit of China as well just like they have done for Pak. Remember Xinjiang.
Golden opportunity to be great power for indians...
Of why the US would like indians to be on the ground goes without saying.
You know what is most painful in all this mess.... loss of lives, stolen heritage and stolen future of Pak People... by their own elite...in uniform and in civilian robes... Pak could have been a middle income country long time ago!
As I have said before...anything less than 150.000 troops is not going to cut mustard for our great indians.
Over to you,
SPF
PS. Pak's future lies with China, EU, EEU, SCO, NATO and the US-JP. This is the world on which Pak business and diplomacy must be focused. From education to technology!
@Max @django @Kaptaan @PaklovesTurkiye @DESERT FIGHTER @Spring Onion @Pakistan First @Irfan Baloch @Rafi @Major Sam @Dawood Ibrahim Pak Friends, I would like to know your views... how do you see this indian adventure into the Heart of Darkness?
Dear fellow members . I will say it again , Iran will not attack directly "Never ever" they will use "Shiaism" as weapon , and then they will wait for Indians to do the "Job".
Afghanis will join India , As soon as war start with India , Afghanis will also attack "Mark my words".
I don't know how many of you were there in 80s when Whabiism spread in Pakistan (KSA) and our elite did nothing , Now You are all witnessing Shiaism (Iran) spreading in Pakistan and again our elite did nothing and they are not in any mood.
Persians cant fight in Syria and Iraq on there own they need manpower (shia youth) from Pakistan and our shia youth is playing in hands of mullhas of Iran , and our elite is doing 0000000000000000000000000000.
I agree with what you said apart from the Afghan bit. How exactly are the Afghans going to attack? Their nation is completely ruined, they're all starving or are drug addicts. What harm can they possibly do to us? If they do attack us, we should use EVERYTHING & ANYTHING at our disposal to annihilate them.
In the situation today, in case of a multi-pronged attack, it will be actually Americans attacking. Remember Salala? In the future, if the news story in OP is correct, it will be Indians utilizing pincers to box us in. When we say attack from Afghanistan, we don't necessarily mean attack by Afghans, although the Northern Alliance scumbags and other anti-Pakistan elements will participate in it with gusto and glee.
Sir, here is the master stroke that Iran/India can play. If Pakistan offers help on the Yemen issue, Iran bullies us with threat of three prong attack. Yet, the same Iran will actually reel in its Houthi allies as soon as India intervenes, making India the darling of Arab world, while at the same time, making Pakistan a pariah, making us lose faith, trust, and a groundwell of support.
The thing is, as long as matters were limited to helping in Yemen, I have been in support of overt involvement by Pakistan, Iran be damned. But then, under Trump's insidious direction, the foolish Arabs tried creating an outright anti-Iran coalition. This is where I draw a red line. Full on, overt confrontation with Iran will be folly of the highest order.
@MastanKhan @PaklovesTurkiye @Oscar
PA working in Afghanistan under blue helmets is unlikely. Afghanistan will not accept it.
Mostly a invitation
Sir, here is the master stroke that Iran/India can play. If Pakistan offers help on the Yemen issue, Iran bullies us with threat of three prong attack. Yet, the same Iran will actually reel in its Houthi allies as soon as India intervenes, making India the darling of Arab world, while at the same time, making Pakistan a pariah, making us lose faith, trust, and a groundwell of support.
The thing is, as long as matters were limited to helping in Yemen, I have been in support of overt involvement by Pakistan, Iran be damned. But then, under Trump's insidious direction, the foolish Arabs tried creating an outright anti-Iran coalition. This is where I draw a red line. Full on, overt confrontation with Iran will be folly of the highest order.
@MastanKhan @PaklovesTurkiye @Oscar
India should act like pak. Proxy war send weapons and make them fight the army.
May be India can refrain from sending terrorist to kill innocent but if it's necessary they can decide to arm the terrorist and send in the name of religion just like isi did in past. My ethics don't make an iota of difference.
These 15000 should recruit 15lakh local. Target the pak from other side keep em busy.