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In what appears to be a departure from Turkey’s traditional stand on Kashmir, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says Pakistan and India must discuss their festering dispute.In an interview ahead of his visit to India, Erdogan also said that the obvious similarity between separatist Kurds and Kashmiris was one between “apples and oranges”.

“If we compare apples to oranges, we will make a mistake, a big mistake,” the President told news portal WION.”We have no problems with the Kurdish people, Kurdish citizens in Turkey. We have a problem with terrorist organisations.

“With regard to the Kashmir question, there is no similarity whatsoever. The nature of the two disputes is different.

“There is a territorial dispute in Jammu and Kashmir. Pakistan, as a state, is pursuing its own theory and arguments. And they are right.

“But India as a state is also pursuing her own agenda, her own arguments and she is right too.”

Erdogan added that in Jammu and Kashmir, “there is a state of India, and there is one of Pakistan, who are both in need of settling this dispute once and for all”.

Erdogan said Turkey would never use the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) against India.

“We would never release statements against India… All we want to see is open the channels for dialogue in order to bring India and Pakistan closer to one another, in order to hopefully settle the dispute on Kashmir once and for all.

“This is what is troubling us, this is what we are working on.”

Asked why Turkey blocked New Delhi’s admission to the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), Erdogan said Ankara had “always been supportive of India’s entry into NSG and also that of Pakistan in a similar way”.

He said both countries “have nuclear capabilities and both are right”.

The President denied linking India with Pakistan. “We are not linking the two. That is why I said India’s right and Pakistan’s right too.

“They have both nuclear capabilities. We are trying to act very fairly and are supportive of India. And India’s Prime Minister has thanked me for that support.

“Similarly we have been supportive of Pakistan too.”

Erdogan said there should be no permanent or non-permanent seats in the UN. Instead, he suggested that 20 member countries should rotate every two years in the Security Council.

“India is a very important power in that regard and India should be represented at the Security Council… The Security Council has never been reformed, it needs to be updated.”



http://idrw.org/india-pakistan-must-discuss-kashmir-president-erdogan/
 
Just a typical statement to pave the way for a visit...Just formality. Pakistan and Turkiye are very close to each other. They are strategic partners. Indians are too late to exploit anything...Indians don't know Mr. Erdogan yet. :lol:

The President denied linking India with Pakistan. “We are not linking the two. That is why I said India’s right and Pakistan’s right too.

Denied linking two and yet in heart beat, in further sentence, linked so...:rofl:
 
Indians are too late to exploit anything...Indians don't know Mr. Erdogan yet.

India does not need to exploit anything , does Pakistan exploit ?

Allow the same level of intelligence to Indians , they know what they do.

Erdogan said Turkey would never use the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) against India.
 
Just a typical statement to pave the way for a visit...Just formality. Pakistan and Turkiye are very close to each other. They are strategic partners. Indians are too late to exploit anything...Indians don't know Mr. Erdogan yet. :lol:

The President denied linking India with Pakistan. “We are not linking the two. That is why I said India’s right and Pakistan’s right too.

Denied linking two and yet in heart beat, in further sentence, linked so...:rofl:
I like to see the Pakistanis feeling proud when they get an opportunity to be linked with India.
 
Heart attack for Pakistanis. Sultan Erdogan just said that Turkey views Pakistan and Indian positions on Kashmir equally. A major change in Turkish stance.
2 day ago they left us completely and i was telling indians that they can't.
Now two days later the indian repsonse will be traitor and back stabber.
Well i think it hapened before that. The hindu have exposed the so called traitor turkey.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-pape...s-defence-ties-with-india/article18287439.ece
Turkey seeks defence ties with India
Kallol Bhattacherjee
NEW DELHI April 29, 2017 00:00 IST
Updated: April 29, 2017 04:42 IST

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Looking beyond traditional military ties with Pakistan and the NATO member countries, Turkey is eager to build a defence partnership with India.

A senior Turkish official said that apart from defence, Ankara wants to explore nuclear and space opportunities with India and intends to join hands with it for a more just world order.

“India is one of the biggest importers of defence material in the world and has an excellent defence industry. That is why we are keen to build partnership with India’s defence industry,” said H. Ilnur Cevik, Senior Adviser to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey.

Turkey and Pakistan have been traditional friends since the 1950s when both joined the Western Bloc. But Mr. Cevik maintained that Turkey has decided to create space for cooperation with India.

In an exclusive chat with The Hindu, Mr. Cevik said that despite support to Pakistan’s concerns on Kashmir, Turkey believes that the Kashmir issue has no military solution.

“Pakistan is a very good friend of Turkey but that does not mean India cannot be a close friend of Turkey ,” Mr. Cevik said.“We want India to be a partner of Turkey in defence, in nuclear issues, on contracting issues in Africa – in all areas – we want India to be our partner.”
 
Heart attack for Pakistanis. Sultan Erdogan just said that Turkey views Pakistan and Indian positions on Kashmir equally. A major change in Turkish stance.
So much for Indian dream of supremacy and infact what Mr Erdogan states is a slap on Indian dreams about Super Duper Power by terming both equal .

Its a clear line that with India every country wants to keep business relationship and that's it with Pakistan its mutual respect and strategic .In time of need we will see which country is with whom ,India is one of the largest importer of defence equipment and Turkey is looking for business so its a good and balanced move
 
I like to see the Pakistanis feeling proud when they get an opportunity to be linked with India.

Nope...in some circumstances, yes...U did nuke blast, we did nuke blast...We just get linked with you even if we don't want...Can't tell why this happen all the time...may be due to enmity
 
So much for Indian dream of supremacy and infact what Mr Erdogan states is a slap on Indian dreams about Super Duper Power by terming both equal .

Its a clear line that with India every country wants to keep business relationship and that's it with Pakistan its mutual respect and strategic .In time of need we will see which country is with whom ,India is one of the largest importer of defence equipment and Turkey is looking for business so its a good and balanced move

you have misunderstood. Pakistan has in recent times tried to exploit Erdogan's increasing slant towards islamic radicalism. This is clearly a failure in that attempt. Not unexpected but difficult for certain 'leaders' of Pak to stomach.
 
So much for Indian dream of supremacy and infact what Mr Erdogan states is a slap on Indian dreams about Super Duper Power by terming both equal .

Its a clear line that with India every country wants to keep business relationship and that's it with Pakistan its mutual respect and strategic .In time of need we will see which country is with whom ,India is one of the largest importer of defence equipment and Turkey is looking for business so its a good and balanced move
Equal ? So naive.
He said pakistan is right in its claim on kashmir and so is india. He is mentioning equal in claims, not in anything else.
That is why he clarified he denies linking india and pakistan, but just said both are right in their own place.

World knows and erdogan knows, india hates to sit in the line with pakistan. We want our case to be evaluated independently. Tommorrow we may or not get into NSG, but we will always refuse to take pakistani file with ours, and downgrade our chances. We want our case evaluated independently, and same as for pakistan. That is why we dont even oppose pakistans entry, we just said let world decide. But pakistani position has always been if india goes then so should we. Coz pakistan knows without india they have no chance and recognition.

Heck we dont even mind pakistan going alone in NSG and we staying back,(thats just a day dream though) but as i said we dont want to sit in line with pakistan on international forums. And erdogan knows that well, hence he denied linking 2 countries together.
 
Equal ? So naive.
He said pakistan is right in its claim on kashmir and so is india. He is mentioning equal in claims, not in anything else.
That is why he clarified he denies linking india and pakistan, but just said both are right in their own place.
i.e called equal terms
World knows and erdogan knows, india hates to sit in the line with pakistan. We want our case to be evaluated independently. Tommorrow we may or not get into NSG, but we will always refuse to take pakistani file with ours, and downgrade our chances. We want our case evaluated independently, and same as for pakistan. That is why we dont even oppose pakistans entry, we just said let world decide. But pakistani position has always been if india goes then so should we. Coz pakistan knows without india they have no chance and recognition.
there were many chances for independent assessment but of course nothing is going to happen as world doesn't go around India
Heck we dont even mind pakistan going alone in NSG and we staying back,(thats just a day dream though) but as i said we dont want to sit in line with pakistan on international forums. And erdogan knows that well, hence he denied linking 2 countries together
keep dreaming Ajit Doval doctrine and you will be isolated soon

you have misunderstood. Pakistan has in recent times tried to exploit Erdogan's increasing slant towards islamic radicalism. This is clearly a failure in that attempt. Not unexpected but difficult for certain 'leaders' of Pak to stomach.
please enlighten us about Pak failure or Erdogan statement which goes against Pakistan
 
SOURCE: IANS



“With regard to the Kashmir question, there is no similarity whatsoever. The nature of the two disputes is different.

“There is a territorial dispute in Jammu and Kashmir. Pakistan, as a state, is pursuing its own theory and arguments. And they are right.

“But India as a state is also pursuing her own agenda, her own arguments and she is right too.”

Erdogan added that in Jammu and Kashmir, “there is a state of India, and there is one of Pakistan, who are both in need of settling this dispute once and for all”.

Erdogan said Turkey would never use the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) against India.

“We would never release statements against India… All we want to see is open the channels for dialogue in order to bring India and Pakistan closer to one another, in order to hopefully settle the dispute on Kashmir once and for all.

“This is what is troubling us, this is what we are working on.”

Republic of Turkey is aware about the importance for the holy places of the Indian nation which are under occupation and the CPEC which the Chinese wants are directly violating Indian soveriginity.

Organisation of Islamic states do accept that what Palestine meant for Arab nation, Kailash Mansarovar is meant for Indian nation.

keep dreaming Ajit Doval doctrine and you will be isolated soon

NSA chief Ajit Doval sahab wants peaceful solution of dispute with the Chinese as those holy places are important for Indian nation.
 
We will listen to everyone and we will respect but we will do what Quran and sunnah says.


We will take every inch of Kashmir back.
Along with this we will free Palestine
Along with this we will rise a white flag in india when we we captured it.
INSHALLAH.
With the mercy of ALLAH Almighty.
 

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