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Ajmal Kasab , the sole terrorist arrested during the 26/11 terror strikes in Mumbai , has finally been hanged. But he was only a foot soldier of the Lashkar-e-Tayiba , a fundamentalist organisation that continues to launch acts of terror on Indian soil.

Despite the voluminous evidence presented to Pakistan, President Asif Ali Zardari’s government has failed to satisfactorily meet India’s demands for either effectively putting on trial the masterminds of the Mumbai terror strikes or handing them over to face justice in India.

Peace is undeniably important, but not if the cost is a continuing proxy war in Jammu and Kashmir and terrorism in other parts of India, being sponsored from across the border by organisations over which the Pakistan government claims it has no control.

Since all other options have been exhausted, the Government of India must consider viable military and covert options to send a strong message to the Pakistan army and the Inter Services Intelligence that India’s threshold of tolerance has been crossed and enough is enough, especially if a similar incident recurs.

Military options include raids across the Line of Control on the leadership and training camps of the Lashkar, the Jaish-e-Mohammed and the Hizbul Mujahideen by Special Forces, the destruction of the Pakistan army’s posts on the Line of Control and its logistics installations in ****************** Kashmir by heavy doses of artillery fire and the precision bombing of selected targets by the Indian Air Force.

However, hard military options have only a transitory impact unless these are sustained over a long period of time. The use of force also causes inevitable collateral damage, runs the risk of escalating into a larger war with attendant nuclear dangers and has adverse international ramifications.

In order to achieve a lasting impact and ensure that the actual perpetrators of terrorism are targeted, it is necessary to employ covert capabilities to neutralise the leadership of terrorist organisations. Clandestine operations can be methodically planned and stealthily executed at an opportune moment.

These are not time-critical responses and they also have an element of ‘plausible deniability’ built into them. Other advantages include relatively low political, economic and military costs and low risk of casualties for operatives as local personnel — who harbour grudges against the targeted organisations — can often be used.

After Independence, Indian intelligence agencies had virtually no covert capabilities available while Pakistan launched irregular warfare against India in Kashmir and sustained it over the next few decades.

After the 1962 war with China, the newly-established external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing, received help from the Central Intelligence Agency to establish capabilities for clandestine operations across India’s borders.

When the ISI intervened to provide ‘political, diplomatic and moral’ support to the protagonists of the insurgent Khalistan movement in Punjab [ Images ] in the 1980s, India is reported to have retaliated in the restive regions of Sindh and Balochistan.

Soon after the Brass Tacks IV crisis in 1987 (when the Indian Army’s [ Images ] simulation of a full-scale war on the border unsettled Pakistan), R&AW chief A K Verma and then ISI chief Lieutenant General Hamid Gul (now on India’s wanted list) reportedly agreed to stop launching covert operations against each other.

Pakistan did not keep its part of the bargain in Kashmir on the specious plea that it is was a disputed territory. It went flat out to support militancy in Jammu and Kashmir. Since then, Pakistan has often accused India of clandestine interference in its internal affairs, but has failed to corroborate its claims with hard evidence.

B Raman, a well-known intelligence analyst, has written, ‘R&AW imposed heavy costs on Pakistan for supporting the Khalistanis and should be able to do so now for its support to the LeT and other ****** terrorist organisations.’

According to the intelligence grapevine, India’s covert capabilities in Pakistan were wound down on the prime minister’s orders in 1997, so as to promote reconciliation.

If that is true, a great deal of effort will be necessary to establish these capabilities from scratch. Young operatives will have to be selected and trained — initially in the rudiments of intelligence gathering — and after being given some in-country experience, in the complexities of high-risk special operations in a hostile foreign environment.

They will also need to be imparted specialised instructions in selecting, training and motivating local agents to carry out pre-planned and opportune strikes against selected targets.

It takes at least three to five years to put in place basic capabilities for covert operations in Pakistan as both the terrorist organisations and their handlers like the ISI have to be penetrated. It is to be hoped that permission has been given to R&AW to revive its earlier capabilities.

Targets should include the leaders of fundamentalist terrorist organisations in Pakistan who are sponsoring terrorist strikes in India and their ISI handlers — particularly those who are renegade or rogue elements.

Masterminds like Lashkar founder Mohammad Sayeed and 26/11 attack accused Zaki-ur Rehman Lakhvi must be neutralised one by one if Pakistan does not act against them.

Fugitives from the Indian justice system, like gangster and prime accused in the 1993 Mumbai serial blasts Dawood Ibrahim [ Images ], must be hounded out. In fact, Dawood should be secretly apprehended from his hideout in Karachi and brought back alive to India to face a public trial.

In a later phase, when a network of operatives is in place and sufficient experience has been gained, logistics installations of the army like ammunition dumps — from which explosives are issued for suicide strikes — should be blown up.

In this age of realpolitik, adherence to ahimsa (non-violence) will not pay dividends and India will remain at the mercy of terrorist organisations. Such organisations will always have the initiative as they can choose the time and place of the next attack.

R&AW must be given the wherewithal necessary to undertake sustained covert operations in Pakistan to eliminate the leadership of organisations inimical to India.

The flames of fundamentalist terrorism in India are still being fanned by the Pakistan army and the ISI, though on a reduced scale. The time to debate this issue on moral and legal grounds has long since passed.

India needs to take out terror targets in Pakistan | idrw.org
 
Our leader MMS is impotent who has lost his brain for italian mafia.He is eager to sold out siachin just for noble cause.

and you asking for targeting militants?
 
How will this help man?

Surgical strikes etc etc?

There are 180 million Pakistanis.

The ideology that breeds terror needs to be attacked, not those it has infected.
 
All this would be doing is treating the symptom not the cause. In fact it would probobly make things worse as the Pakistani people turned more anti-India as has been the case with the US and their drone strikes. This is not a viable option IMHO and there is a reason such activities were wound down, if you look throughout history such activities have only ever yielded negative results in the long-term.
 
All this would be doing is treating the symptom not the cause. In fact it would probobly make things worse as the Pakistani people turned more anti-India as has been the case with the US and their drone strikes. This is not a viable option IMHO and there is a reason such activities were wound down, if you look throughout history such activities have only ever yielded negative results in the long-term.

They already are.Even after loosing 40000 people from the hands of militants,they still consider india as enemy :D.
 
How will this help man?

Surgical strikes etc etc?

There are 180 million Pakistanis.

The ideology that breeds terror needs to be attacked, not those it has infected.

nope, surgical strike is not an option anymore just a buzz word. But it can be done in Israeli way - Operation Wrath of God (Operation Wrath of God - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Israel covertly killed all the leaders of a terrorist organisation called "Black September" & the organisation became defunct, why not give a free hand to RAW, just like MOSSAD.
 
They already are.Even after loosing 40000 people from the hands of militants,they still consider india as enemy :D.

Yes but there is always the possiblity things could get worse (as hard as that may be to beleive). If things got worse the number of terror attacks planned would go up as funding and resources poured into these plots and moves like MFN would be thrown out the window. There is a reason India has maintained it wants to see a prosperous and stable Pakistan-this would benifit India as much as Pakistan!

nope, surgical strike is not an option anymore just a buzz word. But it can be done in Israeli way - Operation Wrath of God (Operation Wrath of God - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Israel covertly killed all the leaders of a terrorist organisation called "Black September" & the organisation became defunct, why not give a free hand to RAW, just like MOSSAD.

It can be done by Isreal because the Palestinians/Hamas have no SAMs to speak of and their only potent weapons are some pathetic little rockets. The India-Pakistan dynamic is completly different.
 
nope, surgical strike is not an option anymore just a buzz word. But it can be done in Israeli way - Operation Wrath of God (Operation Wrath of God - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Israel covertly killed all the leaders of a terrorist organisation called "Black September" & the organisation became defunct, why not give a free hand to RAW, just like MOSSAD.

Hope u know the Narasima rao govt have disabled RAW personnels from directly operating from Pakistan. We now depend upon internal sources for information, by paying them money.
First we must reverse that decision , then, plan OP Wrath of India.
 
Mashallah!!! This is the most beautiful post I have seen.

Its not just the Indian posters but the people who can be counted as opinion makers are as foolish, if not more.
 
Yes but there is always the possiblity things could get worse (as hard as that may be to beleive). If things got worse the number of terror attacks planned would go up as funding and resources poured into these plots and moves like MFN would be thrown out the window. There is a reason India has maintained it wants to see a prosperous and stable Pakistan-this would benifit India as much as Pakistan!



It can be done by Isreal because the Palestinians/Hamas have no SAMs to speak of and their only potent weapons are some pathetic little rockets. The India-Pakistan dynamic is completly different.

Its not like OBL attack. Have u seen the film "MUNICH" ?
He suggest to kill members like that, shown in that film, which was a real MOSSAD ops/.
 
Yes but there is always the possiblity things could get worse (as hard as that may be to beleive). If things got worse the number of terror attacks planned would go up as funding and resources poured into these plots and moves like MFN would be thrown out the window. There is a reason India has maintained it wants to see a prosperous and stable Pakistan-this would benifit India as much as Pakistan!

Let me clear!!!!!

Pakistan is nuclear armed nation.You cant get them directly until unless they self attack you.So better way is to use proxies to destroy any nation.Just need to fund few billions and support insurgencies,you will hit them without hurting ourself.

Prosperous pakistan will be harmful for india.WE have seen in past how they supported insurgencies in india coz they had support of U.S with money but not now? why? they dont have money and they have enough mess to sort inside.
even military installations are not safe there and people are getting killed.

Disadvantage of using this trick is ..

it takes lot of time to do so but anyway its safe way to achieve target as it ensures your safety.
 
Lol most indians think that Pakistan is Gaza , Come on you have tried this strikes options before as well and failed :)#
Try again and you will fail again and always. Pakistan is a strong country and your RAW is already doing its work from Afghanistan under the US ..

What else you can do ...? Kashmir is a disputed area and we have all the rights to work in Kashmir as it belongs to us ... what ever you keep on saying does not matter to us...

Actually Pakistan should consider to hit RAW bases in Afghanistan. also in Kashmir .
 
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