'India may have competitive edge over China'

[CardSharp]

Of course its the REPORT!

Care to comment on the graphs posted in the report?

 

[gubbi]

Care to comment on the graphs posted in the report?

Comment on speculations? There are other more interesting speculative threads, like the future wars scenarios between India-China, India-Pakistan, India-China/Pakistan, US-China etc. Or fighters vs fighters threads.

Speculations, no sir, thank you. Like you mentioned - over-optimistic with China, over-pessimistic with India. If that helps you sleep tight at night, be my guest!

 

[gubbi]

Care to comment on the graphs posted in the report?

You are right. Comment on the graphs.

All the graphs speculate about limited scenarios:
Low India - low China
High India - High China
Avg India - Avg China
and the the opp scenarios:
High India - Low China
Low India -High China.

All these speculations based on the last few years' growth patterns and extrapolating it to the next 15 years. This without taking into consideration any social unrest or changes in govt policies or changes in the overall security situation of the region etc. Look at where India was in 1990 and look at it in say 1995 or even 2000. Rapid changes in Indian economy - a result of very bold policies - set a path for unprecedented progress in a country which till a few years back was following the socialist model of planned progress (a gross misnomer of you may). Again, who had thunk that arab spring would catch on so fast and topple even the most brutal authoritative regimes quickly? And you want to bet a wager on that RAND reports speculations?

The report is pure speculation at best and discuss all that you want to, but I would not bet anything on that or any such speculative reports.

 

[below_freezing]

Yes, if India breaks up like the Soviet Union or has another operation Blue Star where minorities get massacred, then indeed, India's growth rate will slow down significantly.

 

[Jade]

Yes, if India breaks up like the Soviet Union or has another operation Blue Star where minorities get massacred, then indeed, India's growth rate will slow down significantly.

Why do you Chinese always think of scenarios where India is broken, I would say China is more fragile. You have Tibet and Xinjiang where secession movements are going. Then given the authoritarian regime in China, an Arab spring or Tiananmen Square cannot be ruled out.

History is a proof that popular uprisings have happened in countries where there is no democracy. Just because your media is state controlled doesn’t mean that such problems don’t exist. Read the report, on institutional stability India scores over China

 

[below_freezing]

Why do you Chinese always think of scenarios where India is broken, I would say China is more fragile. You have Tibet and Xinjiang where secession movements are going. Then given the authoritarian regime in China, an Arab spring or Tiananmen Square cannot be ruled out.

History is a proof that popular uprisings have happened in countries where there is no democracy. Just because your media is state controlled doesn’t mean that such problems don’t exist. Read the report, on institutional stability India scores over China

how many terrorist attacks are there in India vs in China? How many secessionist movements are there in India vs. China?

Arab Springs are caused by what again? Inflation and corruption. Guess what India has in plenty?

The US tried to start an arab spring in China remember? People laughed. Why? We have a robust democracy. Why is there Indian summer happening right now? Because people are tired of the corruption and inflation.

Yes, India might have "institutional stability" of the figurehead in Delhi, doesn't mean that it won't break up like the Soviet Union.

 

[Tractor]

Why do you Chinese always think of scenarios where India is broken, I would say China is more fragile. You have Tibet and Xinjiang where secession movements are going. Then given the authoritarian regime in China, an Arab spring or Tiananmen Square cannot be ruled out.

History is a proof that popular uprisings have happened in countries where there is no democracy. Just because your media is state controlled doesn’t mean that such problems don’t exist. Read the report, on institutional stability India scores over China

A few chinese think India too big and strong just like most of your people think about.A disadvantage to a nation is an advantage or pleasure to it's enemy even in mind,too simple.

 

[Malik Usman]

Keep going bankrupt and begging

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While India's prime working-age population will overtake that of China in 2028, China has advantages in science and technology, as well as in developing its national defence capabilities, according to the report.

But India's more open and flexible political structure may allow it to move nimbly in making adjustments to its policies and thereby improve its relative performance, perhaps providing it with an advantage over China

Don't worry we will not come to u ask about money..........you keep your reserves save to become a super power...............If Indian compare themselves with China's development its just a dream nothing more..............and everybody has right to see dreams.......so you can continue.

 

[jdme]

Don't worry we will not come to u ask about money..........you keep your reserves save to become a super power...............If Indian compare themselves with China's development its just a dream nothing more..............and everybody has right to see dreams.......so you can continue.

Pakistani members compare Pakistan to India all the time. Surely India is not committing a bigger crime by comparing itself to China. You have your dreams, we have ours, right?

 

[Jade]

how many terrorist attacks are there in India vs in China? How many secessionist movements are there in India vs. China?

Arab Springs are caused by what again? Inflation and corruption. Guess what India has in plenty?

The US tried to start an arab spring in China remember? People laughed. Why? We have a robust democracy. Why is there Indian summer happening right now? Because people are tired of the corruption and inflation.

Yes, India might have "institutional stability" of the figurehead in Delhi, doesn't mean that it won't break up like the Soviet Union.

The same old story and your arguments are week…First, just because Chinese media is selective doesn’t mean terrorist attacks and other disturbances are not happening in China. Just go to the west of China, you will know how discontent these Chinese are

Arab Springs are not caused by Inflation and corruption but by oppressive regimes that don’t give people their basic rights. Comparing Anna’s campaign with Arab springs is not appropriate. Anna’s campaign shows the strength of Indian democracy and inclusiveness. Try Anna’s campaign in China and you will be killed ruthlessly. Anyway China is not doing well on both corruption and inflation either

Chinese government is just delaying the ‘eventual’ by dangling the carrot of economic development before the helpless Chinese people. Once the Chinese people are out of this drama of ‘economic development’, I foresee an Arab spring in China

Nothing is more sacrosanct than human rights and democracy, not even economic growth rates and development

 

[aimarraul]

great,we have been surpassed by india again,it's not the end of world even it become the reality.This debate over a prediction report not worth having,in fact ,we should thank these negative voices around china,it help chinese being cautious and remind us our country is still very undeveloped .The sense of crisis is very important for a growing country,U.S being the only superpower in the world,despite its' military expenditure and per capita GDP are almost ten times larger than ours,their media still crying the "china wolf" everyday,this is something we should learn from

china's future lies in our own hands,蛋定

 

[Cheetah786]

I wish you rather post good news from Pakistan. Economic boom, technological breakthroughs..I truly wish.......................

Really and what technological break through u have -----------------outsourced-----------answer his post don't try to derail the thread.

 

[jdme]

Really and what technological break through u have -----------------outsourced-----------answer his post don't try to derail the thread.

You just did?

 

[CardSharp]

This without taking into consideration any social unrest or changes in govt policies or changes in the overall security situation of the region etc.

So your arguments boils down to China will collapse politically and that India is bold.

The same old story and your arguments are week…First, just because Chinese media is selective doesn’t mean terrorist attacks and other disturbances are not happening in China. Just go to the west of China, you will know how discontent these Chinese are

Arab Springs are not caused by Inflation and corruption but by oppressive regimes that don’t give people their basic rights. Comparing Anna’s campaign with Arab springs is not appropriate. Anna’s campaign shows the strength of Indian democracy and inclusiveness. Try Anna’s campaign in China and you will be killed ruthlessly. Anyway China is not doing well on both corruption and inflation either

Chinese government is just delaying the ‘eventual’ by dangling the carrot of economic development before the helpless Chinese people. Once the Chinese people are out of this drama of ‘economic development’, I foresee an Arab spring in China

Nothing is more sacrosanct than human rights and democracy, not even economic growth rates and development

A lot of people doubling down on Chinese social unrest.

 

[CardSharp]

I mean this is not something we haven't heard before from people here. Usually carried with it a double dose of schadenfreude and seething hatred.