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the keel was laid in February 2009
You have to prove that the indian steel mills could supply before that time
True but as I said the structure blueprints (including relevant manuals / handbooks) plus good testing equipment will do the analysis.
That is a joke right?
You all have the hmas Melbourne for study, including blueprints of varyag and purchase of design mudules and possibly blueprints for the SAC220 from spain.
And what has Chnia done with it?
It is as demanding if not more because the flexibilities are much less than building from scratch
What is so demanding about a partially refitted AC that is used only for training?
Does it even go to the high seas and how often?
There is no comparison to a ship built from scratch.
that is cheerleaders' viewpoint
Even the blinds can see a rusty floating ironblock that was once towed by tugboats is completely transformed into a self-powered 60K ton aircraft carrier that can navigate to the Pacific.
In fact it must have been even easier to refit for the Chinese as they didn't have to strip it down, as by 98 it was already in that condition.
I don't see any ingenuity, in fact no one does.
And if so why doesn't PLAN remove the title of "training" vessel, if it is such an engineering marvel.
we have some parts which are sources from Ukraine. The Russian element on Liaoning is none to low (aircraft not included)
He said Soviet not Russia.
Liaoning was completely overhauled, floating and power-enabled when we had the inauguration
while your gigantic ironing board is like a 3/8 baked cake presented for celebration
Untrue.
Varyag was only 70% complete and even then it had no weapons, operating systems, engine or a rudder and much of its useful parts were sold for auction.
SO the "overhaul" done was nil as what you all did was refit individual parts that were never integrated in the Varyag so in fact it was much-much less complicated than "overhauling" and is still a shadow of the originally conceived.
Oh now I get it u r just pricking coz we can celebrate something.
So what? We celebrated when the keel was laid and we are celebrating that it is launched and will celebrate even more when the commissioning happens, that won't change the fact that it WILL be completed and we WILL have an AC before Chnia.
Either way, our ironing board is still better than ur paint-over-rusted-tin-can.
SCS is the sea territory where Liaoning will operate then.
Coz that is its limit.
see the above answer. You have to be patient for the rolling out of the next CV or CVN
We have a lot of experience in shipbuilding that easily trumps india
your gigantic ironing board is designed by the Italians
Design inputs is not the same as completely designed. well that gets passed you since you are too busy overestimating yourselves and underestimating everyone around you.
Unlike the great China shipbuilders with their numerous ACs and separately purchased blueprints, who are still stuck with a rusted tin can.
Patience is hardly a virtue for you all when we have a designed our own with lesser support.
as I said you have idle capacities in you shipyards which are engaged mostly in government orders
I cant imagine you cannot have rescheduled your manufacturing priorities to allow for the refitting of Gorshkov which is another iconic symbols for cheerleading indians. You are handing your ATM cards to the Russians for the job because of your incapabilites
That should hardly be a reason for your rant.
Every navy project is a priority, we don't see Vikramaditya as an immediately necessary project and if it can be done in a cheaper and less time consuming way then why not.
Definitely our shipyards know about rescheduling priorities more than you.
And please do not mention incapabilities, when China could only paint a tin can and make it a show pony to save face.
These are on paper. indians said tejas was so fantastic and would equipped with 'indigenous" indian engine and a lot of composite material. The indian engine is dead now and your composite materials frame are a lot heavier than stated
Untrue on both counts.
Kaveri is still doing great. and Tejas is still the lightest 4th gen plane.
Unfortunately for you it is wrought on stone.
on forums and on paper only
Maybe for the Chinese.
I can agree with a Navalized version of Rafale/Mig-29, but Tejas is hardly ready to take off from ground, let alone from an ACC. And you know what I mean, don't be bringing in here how many times Tejas has actually been able to fly!!
I am no gonna dignify that with an answer, this year itself has had many articles showing the fast progress of Tejas you should check those out.
I have no problem with IN/IAF being able to detect the missile but shooting it down even head on is no joke! First of all, this is not an arrow that will fly straight, this missile is actually capable of hitting moving targets which means that it does actually has the ability to alter its flight path for various reasons.
Secondly, do you realize what it takes to shoot down a 400-500kg body of mass travelling in excess of MACH 5? Can you imagine the Kinetic energy necessary for an effective engagement? An what happens where there are 8-12 such missiles homing in on an ACC?
Untrue and yes I do realize it very well.
AKG can hit slow moving targets there is no info on it hitting fast moving targets which proves that it has little to no maneuverability.
You should see the articles yourself and please show an article that says that an A2S missile like AKG can maneuver or course correct at mach5 like a cruise missile in dense atmospheric conditions of sea.
As for your second part, you answered your question yourself.
A high velocity less maneuverable target if even hit with minuscle force will send it careening and defelecting.
Or do you think that the missile will stay on the path even after it being hit.
You should see seaRAM tests carried out by the USN where the RIM missile only at speed of around 1-2 mach have been able to destroy much-much faster targets.
The question never arises that fighters will even be able to fire that many missiles, as an escort of awacs alongside a fighter squadron will face off with it. Your theory is moot and overly optimistic at best.
A layer of outer middle and innermost air defense set up completely negates the factor of the fighters even coming inside to shoot that many AKGs.
And u are completely forgetting jamming and decoying capabilities of IN. The AKG itself has to do a course setup as it is not capable of cruise missile type manuevering, before hurtling down to it max speed which leaves it vulnerable to jamming and decoying.