India/Islam: Muslims lag behind then other minorities in India

[faizahmad]

Please stop thinking about indian muslims as are better of india and living a peaceful life. none of our muslims are dying of hunger and starving .

 

[nalandapride]

The interesting thing is, no Indian is bringing any statistics on this thread proving their claims that Indian Muslims or Dalits are doing better than Pakistani Muslims. While I have given plenty of statistical evidence how downtrodden Indian Muslims are in India.
Indian Muslims have been massacred from time & time again in India, look at what happened to them in Ayodhya, Bhagalpur, Kashmir post 1947, Gujarat 2002, Malegaon, Ajmer Sharif Rajasthan; as well as countless other examples.

In India we have problem of violence no denying from it but still it is far far better than lives Muhajirs migrating to live in fear everyday in Karachi or Biharis living in refugee camps of Dhaka and branded as traitors. Plus you too have places like Gilgit, Quetta and the notorious Parachinar.

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

Can any muslims tell me the type of education taught in Madrasah.....

Always been curious about this.

Are all the teachers qualified in teacher Maths and Science etc?

 

[Vinod2070]

Actually, Pakistanis for the most part are well very acclimatized. You do not see non-Muslims or Muslims coming out, being asked to publicly prove their loyalty to Pakistan the way Indian Muslims are asked to whenever something big happens in India. Non-Muslims in Pakistan are not accused of being Indian spies/sympathizers, unlike Indian Muslims who are constantly being accused of being Pakistani sympathizers/loyalists.

They are hardly there. They have been ethnically cleansed and the small numbers have been bludgeoned into silence by the fanatics and institutionalized discrimination, enshrined right in the constitution.

Only you people can even dare to compare yourself to plural, secular, tolerant democratic countries!

 

[Rang De]

They just can't see us living in peace and harmony together. Defeats purpose of creation of their nation.

It's not about one religious minority.. go to Kerala and you will find all people are living good life irrespective of their religion. UP Bihar and my state MP have lot more work to do and here lot of people from all religion are poor. But this will change too, as these states are developing at good pace now.

 

[nalandapride]

@Harpoon Buddy... You can also enlightened Bilal Bhai what happened to those Mappilas of Kerala after they migrated to Pakistan and his so called well-off theory.

 

[Developereo]

Can any muslims tell me the type of education taught in Madrasah.....

Always been curious about this.

Are all the teachers qualified in teacher Maths and Science etc?

All madressah are not created equal. Some are world class, equaling the best private schools and churning out graduates to Stanford. Others are little more than a mat and a desk.

 

[Vinod2070]

They just can't see us living in peace and harmony together. Defeats purpose of creation of their nation.

It's not about one religious minority.. go to Kerala and you will find all people are living good life irrespective of their religion. UP Bihar and my state MP have lot more work to do and here lot of people from all religion are poor. But this will change too, as these states are developing at good pace now.

You summed it up.

All they want is to see Indian Muslims in bad conditions, some riot somewhere, any minor issue will so.

Until the next second. Then they need some validation again.

 

[53fd]

I guess some of the Indians here can't get past their misconceptions on Indian Muslims.

I'll help them clarify some of their misconceptions:

Misconception 1: Indian Muslims are averse to "mainstream" education:

The Sachar Committee found that Muslim parents are not averse to mainstream education or to send their children to affordable Government schools.

Misconception 2: Muslim parents would rather send their children to Madrassahs than regular schools:

Only 3% of Muslim children among the school going age go to Madarsas.

Misconception 3: Muslims do not want to go to school, it's not because of the relative lack of facilities for Muslim majority areas in terms of education:

Access to government schools for Muslim children is limited. There is non-availability of schools within easy reach for girls at lower levels.

4. Discrimination against Muslims from banks, other fields of life is not true:

Compared to the Muslim majority areas, the areas inhabiting fewer Muslims had better roads, sewage and drainage and water supply facilities.

In both urban and rural areas, the proportion of Muslim households living in pucca houses is lower than the total population.

The concentration of Muslims in states lacking infrastructural facilities implies that a large proportion of the community is without access to basic services.

The presence of Muslims has been found to be only 3% in the IAS, 1.8% in the IFS and 4% in the IPS. Muslim community has a representation of only 4.5% in Indian Railways while 98.7% of them are positioned at lower levels. Their share in police constables is only 6%, in health - 4.4%, in transport - 6.5%.

Constitutional rights of Indian Muslims are being violated:

The Presidential Order of 1950 is inconsistent with Article 14, 15, 16 and 25 of the Constitution that guarantee equality of opportunity, freedom of conscience and protect the citizens from discrimination by the State on grounds of religion, caste or creed.

Benefits of entitlements meant for the backward classes are yet to reach Muslim OBCs. The condition of Muslims in general is also lower than the Hindu-OBCs who have the benefit of reservations.

 

[Rang De]

You summed it up.

All they want is to see Indian Muslims in bad conditions, some riot somewhere, any minor issue will so.

Until the next second. Then they need some validation again.

One main objective of terror funding here by foreign countries is this.

 

[53fd]

Institutionalized discrimination by the Indian state. Presidential Order of 1950:

The Presidential Order of 1950 deprives Dalits belonging to Christian, Parsi and Muslim communities from the constitutional facilities being availed by Scheduled Castes of Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist communities, a violation of Articles 14, 15, 16 and 25 of the Constitution that guarantee equality of opportunity, freedom of conscience and protect the citizens from discrimination by the State on grounds of religion, caste or creed.

 

[Ammyy]

^^^^ Do you think Pakistani people have any right to talk about minority condition ... when in your own country minority forced to change their religion and threaten to leave the country

 

[faizahmad]

All i can say more them equal rights we enjoy a great relation among hindus and muslims in india . i agree there are fanatics too but it exist in every religion . Being an Indian Muslim is being blessed

 

[Sugarcane]

I guess some of the Indians here can't get past their misconceptions on Indian Muslims. .....

One can fix break down but can't fix manufacturing faults

 

[nalandapride]

The presence of Muslims has been found to be only 3% in the IAS, 1.8% in the IFS and 4% in the IPS. Muslim community has a representation of only 4.5% in Indian Railways while 98.7% of them are positioned at lower levels. Their share in police constables is only 6%, in health - 4.4%, in transport - 6.5%.

IAS and IPS are depends upon persons qualification in India, how it is related to discrimination against Muslims.