India, Indonesia agree on defence cooperation

[JohnyD]

I wish more countries would focus more on their economy rather than military and defense

its easy said than done...IMO, you cant achieve growth, self respect, wealth, dignity - if you are not secured!

 

[AnmolSingh]

anyone here familiar with saying of lomdi and khtte angur

difference here is that there are 2 lomdis

 

[Ammyy]

How BD related to this thread?
No one can teach these useless jamaties...

 

[Kaniska]

Not friendship but normal business like relation with India. U can count israel,US as a friend though.

Ok...then we are fine dude....we donot need to create a love story with hero and heroine singing song with Indonesia....we need bussiness relation and defence relation in such a way that Indonesia should be neutral to India's enemeys....That is enough for us....

But sometimes its funny man....it makes sense...when Pakistan and its PDF team member talk about diplomacy and power projection around different nations....But why do you BD people try to create unnecessary self importance by yourself...Yes its true that Pakistan..whatever we may say, but it is a powerful nation from nation perspective...and of course nuclear power...Why do you guys always comes to think yourself with league of Pakistan...I mean take a break dude...

You could have told that A&N belongs to Pak...why are you dragging BD to it..BD was not existing at that point of timeitself....

 

[Gessler]

You equate some member's comments as a nation's obsession with Indonesia?

We have normal healthy relations with Indonesia.

Instead of creating a furball, just try to ignore it.

Get your eyes checked. He said Bangladeshi, not Bangladesh.
He WAS referring to the person, not the state, but inferiority complex
overpowered the Bangladeshis and they jump to posting ratsh!t.

And btw, now I really want to ask...what is these bangladeshis' obssession
with India-Indonesia co-op? Maybe the Indonesians want some good spares
and avionics for their Su-30 Flanker warbirds, keep in mind that China too
could have given the same product support but Indonesians are interested
in Indian-supplied spares because our's are qualitatively better.

Maybe they want to upgrade their Su-30MKs to MKI standard, just like
Malaysia's Su-30MKM. You have to worry above your polevaulting population
back home, this extra-curricular activity is not good for your health.

 

[Gessler]

1.Indonesia was always wary of Indian hegemonic attitude towards neighbors. Sukarno used to say Andaman - Nicabar either belongd to (E) Pakistan or to Indonesia. He used to call the Indian Ocean the Indonesian Ocean. During 1965 War he had sent a troop of PT-76 tanks with full crew to Chittagong. When Air Marshal Asghar Khan was sent by Ayub to seek help, his counter part had taken him round all major air bases asking him to choose whatever he liked. In 1971 an IN Frigate, chasing a PN gunboat with fleeing Pakistanis just before the surrender, was torpedoed by Indonesian craft within Indonesian waters.

2. Absence of good diplomacy is sending this important Muslim country into the Indian camp. The defect is with both BD and Pakistan - but much more with BD. After Zia and Ershad there was no visionary leader in BD to comprehend the importance of Indonesia to BD's economy and defense.

It seems the Bangabandhu education system does not teach real Political Science.

Let's see...back in 1971 war, Indian Navy SeaHawk fighters from Vikrant carrier
battle group were sent for air operations and bomb runs over Pakistan. In the
course of these sorties, the IN blew up American national Chuck Yeager's U-8 ac
sky-high and returned back to the CBG unharmed.

Back to the present now in 2012, America is giving billions-worth military
equipment to India. Thats how international relations work. You maybe
surprised to see that now Indonesian Air Force flankers will all be equipped with
Indian-supplied components and avionics.

But Bangladeshis can cry all over the place. You have always been crying buckets
all over the place...atleast now you know why there are so many salty-water
floods in Bd, right?

 

[Zabaniyah]

Get your eyes checked. He said Bangladeshi, not Bangladesh.
He WAS referring to the person, not the state, but inferiority complex
overpowered the Bangladeshis and they jump to posting ratsh!t.

He did say "Bangladeshi's". That is a generalized statement rather than replying to a specific member.

And btw, now I really want to ask...what is these bangladeshis' obssession
with India-Indonesia co-op? Maybe the Indonesians want some good spares
and avionics for their Su-30 Flanker warbirds, keep in mind that China too
could have given the same product support but Indonesians are interested
in Indian-supplied spares because our's are qualitatively better.

Maybe they want to upgrade their Su-30MKs to MKI standard, just like
Malaysia's Su-30MKM. You have to worry above your polevaulting population
back home, this extra-curricular activity is not good for your health.

Yeah, cool lecture bro.

And by the way, Indonesia also uses the MK2 variant, with more or order
Indonesia orders six Su-30MK2s

And do remember, flying in fancy jets while making fun of poor people just because they are poor does not make a man more civilized than others.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Why are Bangladeshis so apprehensive about India-Indonesia relations ? We have had great relations since centuries anyway .

 

[Abingdonboy]

Wrt the Su-27/30 training what is interesting to point out is that it was China who in the past that had provided this training to the Indonesian AF but now it will be India.

 

[illusion8]

You equate some member's comments as a nation's obsession with Indonesia?

We have normal healthy relations with Indonesia.

Instead of creating a furball, just try to ignore it.

Ignore it? there was this one more guy Banglar lathial other than these two on this thread who talk as if they are representatives of Indonesia or as if Bangladesh shares a deep bond with Indonesia. This thread has nothing to do about Bangladesh and I see the usual chumps from BD coming in and commenting about Indo - Indonesian relations. So what exactly is their obsession with anything Indonesian is what I want to know.

 

[timetravel]

why are BANGLADESHIS (or the other nationalities behind those flags) jumping up and down like monkeys in India and Indonesia thread...

 

[帅的一匹]

What you are saying is correct,but for that you need to have friendly and safe neighborhood so that you can concentrate fully on economy.

勿以小人之心度君子之腹！

why are BANGLADESHIS (or the other nationalities behind those flags) jumping up and down like monkeys in India and Indonesia thread...

As to Indian and Bangladeshi have similiar outlooking, why you call them monkey BTW?

Wrt the Su-27/30 training what is interesting to point out is that it was China who in the past that had provided this training to the Indonesian AF but now it will be India.

Maybe you provide a lower quotation.......

 

[帅的一匹]

Get your eyes checked. He said Bangladeshi, not Bangladesh.
He WAS referring to the person, not the state, but inferiority complex
overpowered the Bangladeshis and they jump to posting ratsh!t.

And btw, now I really want to ask...what is these bangladeshis' obssession
with India-Indonesia co-op? Maybe the Indonesians want some good spares
and avionics for their Su-30 Flanker warbirds, keep in mind that China too
could have given the same product support but Indonesians are interested
in Indian-supplied spares because our's are qualitatively better.

Maybe they want to upgrade their Su-30MKs to MKI standard, just like
Malaysia's Su-30MKM. You have to worry above your polevaulting population
back home, this extra-curricular activity is not good for your health.

Russia will be unhappy if you sneak business under its nose. Dont forget India still need Russian AESA to update your MKI fleet. But dont worry, we will provide you AESA radar if you willing to pay cash.

 

[third eye]

Apart from BD and PAK majority of the muslim world don't have any idea of how deceptionist, twisted and evil India is. They think that India is a normal country with 10-15% muslim pop. but don't have an iota of idea about how islamophobic they are. Its much worse than both US and israel and I agree with Asad bhai that its the failure of diplomacy on our part. KSA and ME knows India's true character thanks to PAK diplomacy but utterly failed to show the truth of India to Indoneshia and malaysia. Anyway Indoneshia it self is a regional power with a growing economy and won't go for any deep strategic relation with India.

Its a wonderful thing to feel that one is intelligent and smart. - it helps a persons self confidence. One must however grant the same level of comprehension & intelligence to others as well.

All nations of the world - Muslim or Non Muslim continually assess each other.

Other muslim nations do not see the world through narrow vision & with a permanent tint of Islam in their international relations as Pak & some posters of BD do.

In any case, in international politics only permanent interests matter.

Relax.

 

[Roybot]

Apart from BD and PAK majority of the muslim world don't have any idea of how deceptionist, twisted and evil India is.

Incidentally Bangladesh and Pakistan are also the most illiterate Muslim countries of the world. Can't be a coincidence can it?