India finalizing US $ 10 billion mega stealth frigates’ project

[tvsram1992]

Will love to see these killer sharks in CBG of IAC 1 .

 

[INDIAISM]

Btw i have heard that P 15B destroyer will have displacement of 7000....and here we are talking about the frigate to have displacement 7200 Tonnes...

 

[Screambowl]

chinese and australians have multiple transmitter and receiver OTH radars which can detect all stealth objects in the sea over 1500kms.
10billion is too much, should rather use for other things.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Btw i have heard that P 15B destroyer will have displacement of 7000....and here we are talking about the frigate to have displacement 7200 Tonnes...

P-15B will almost certainly be closer to 8000 tonnes as at present P-15As are ~7000 (not fully loaded) so the modifications and additions to P-15B will almost certainly see it increase in tonnage.

 

[Yogi]

Buddy non of us are questioning their intellegence...what we are questioning is Niyat....and mind you we are Guinness record holder when it comes to corruption....

Agreed brthr but don't u think had corruption been the main moto the kongress would have been first to go for foreign comapany rather then local company remember bofers, tatra,etc

N look at the brighter side also even if there is some corruption involved(as always) then also atleast it will help our own shipyards to develop not some foreign one(ref gorshkov deal)

plus it will help us master complex technologies like modular shipping which r key to better n fast construction of big ships

 

[Yogi]

chinese and australians have multiple transmitter and receiver OTH radars which can detect all stealth objects in the sea over 1500kms.
10billion is too much, should rather use for other things.

Buddy all ships r detectable at some point so when we say stleath it doesn't mean the ship is undectable but rather it just means that the ship will have a very small radar signature like a 7000 ship won't look nothing more than a shipping boat
So that the ship could have a greater chance of attack as well as survival otherwise a normal frigate will be destroyed at 1500 kms itself

 

[arp2041]

should India work on 3 different frigate projects given the need for more & more ships for the navy???

like more Talwar class order should be given to Russians + P-17A's + UK type 26 effort

this will really give boost to Indian shipbuilding since both the Russians & UK are far ahead of us in it, they can really offer us there expertise in it.

so we can make 3 talwars + 7 P-17A's + 3or 4 type 26 i.e around 13 or 14 frigates, all due to commission in same time period, increasing the firepower of IN manifold

 

[IND151]

P 17 frigate

 

[black_jack]

P 17A should be constructed with composites to reduce radar and infrared signature .

 

[INDIAISM]

@arp2041 budy India is already building Shivalik class frigate....so it is like this
6[3+3] Talwar Class frigate+3 Shivalik Class Frigate+7 P17A.......

As faar as type 26 is concern their are rumours that India is studying Type 26 as U.K has offered India to join that project.....so don't be surprised if tommorow you find out that P17A share its design with Type 26.....

 

[RISING SUN]

The Shivalik class frigates or Project 17 class frigates are multi-role & Guided-missile frigate
with stealth features being built for the Indian Navy.

Cost: 2,600 crore (US$518.7 million)
Planned: 3+2(2nd batch)
Completed: 3
Active: 3
Displacement 4600 tons, Full - 5000+ tons , Full: 6,200 tones(rumor)

Length 143 m
Beam 17 m
Draft 4.5 m
Moulded Depth 9.2 m
Speed 30 knots for GT operations
22 knots cruising speed on diesels.
Crew 35 Officers
222 Enlisted

Propulsion: 2 x Pielstick 16 PA6 STC Diesel engines & 2 x GE LM2500+ boost turbines in CODOG configuration.
Sensors and processing systems: 1 x MR-760 Fregat M2EM 3-D radar
4 x MR-90 Orekh radar
1 x ELTA EL/M 2238 STAR
2 x ELTA EL/M 2221 STGR
1 x BEL APARNA
HUMSA (Hull Mounted Sonar Array)
ATAS/Thales Sintra towed array systems Electronic warfare
and decoys: BEL Ajanta electronic warfare suite

Guns:
1× 3.0 inch Otobreda, naval gun
Anti-ship missiles:
8× VLS launched Klub, anti-ship cruise missiles
or 8× VLS launched BrahMos, anti-ship cruise missiles
Anti-submarine warfare:
2× 2 DTA-53-956 torpedo launchers, 2× RBU-6000 (RPK-8)rocket launchers
Anti-air missiles:
Shtil-1 missile system, with 24 short to medium range (30km) missiles
Close In Weapon Systems (CIWS):Barak SAM-launcher CIWS, 2× AK-630CIWS

Aircraft carried: 2x HAL Dhruv or Sea King Mk.42B helicopters.

Basic design of Project 76 was done by the Navy's Directorate of Naval Design (DND),
with a detailed designed developed by MDL. The DND's design of the Shivalik class called for a "5000 ton stealth frigates (Project 17) incorporating advanced signature suppression and signature management features".
The first three units were formally ordered by the Indian Navy in early 1999.
Production commenced about two years later. Delays resulted from design inputs from the Naval Design Bureau (NDB) for the weapons suite, specification changes to the hull steel and delays in delivery of high-strength D-40S steel from Russia. To overcome the lack of steel supply, DRDO and Steel Authority of India Limited (SAIL) indigenously designed and developed the AB-grade steel required.
Construction of the first P17 frigate commenced with plate cutting on 18 December 2000. The keel was laid on 11 July 2001 and the ship was launched on 18 April 2003. The other two units will then be delivered at regular intervals and subsequent units - twelve planned in all - will be built in progressively modified batches. The vessel is to be built through modular-construction in 172 modules.
The P17 predates that of the Talwar Class frigates by some years. The weapons integration on the P-17 was assisted by Russia's Severnoye Project Design Bureau.

The frigates feature an ATM-based Integrated Ship Data Network (AISDN) which serves as the foundation for the external and internal communication systems. The new Total Atmosphere Control System (TACS) for the ship’s air-conditioning and ventilation represent a major advance from the systems used on previous Indian naval vessels.
Shivalik is India’s first warship with a separate cabin for women officers. While similar in most respects to the men’s cabins, the significant difference is in having an attached bathroom and extra wardrobe space.
The Shivalik Class ships have many more signature reducing features than other Indian Navy ships. They do not, however, possess extreme stealthy or low observable features like the Swedish Visby or the French Lafayette. The Shivalik Class ships will have a lower infra-red signature due to Infra-Red Supression System (IRSS) design tools and training provided by Canada's Davis Engineering.
The Canadian IRSS is the most effective IR signature reduction device in service today. An Italian Radar Cross Section (RCS) prediction software may also have been used for this design. All machinery will be mounted on noise and vibration-proof mounts to reduce acoustic and vibration signatures.

The Project 17A is the follow on the Project 17 (Shivalik class) frigates for the Indian Navy. A total of seven ships will be built. The ships will be built at Mazagon Dock Limited and at GRSE.
Name: Project 17A Builders: GRSE
Mazagon Dock Limited Operators: Indian Navy Preceded by: P-17 Shivalik class Cost: Rs. 4000 crore each
US $900 million each Planned: 7
The anticipated cost for each vessel is above Rs 4,000 crore (approximately US $900 million) and the total deal is expected to be worth more than Rs 45,000 crore (US $10+ billion). The vessel will incorporate the latest indigenous developed stealth features.
Lockheed Martin and Hyundai Heavy Industries have jointly responded to the Project 17A combat systems Request for Information (RFI) issued by Indian Navy. They are offering the Aegis Combat System to be included in its Project 17A frigate proposal.
The P17A frigates will be improve upon the P17 Shivalik class frigates in terms of stealth. It will have covered mooring deck and flush deck mounted (VLM) weapon systems. The number of antennae on the ship will be reduced by using a multifunctional radar. The P17A will also feature better options for roll stabilization. Build times will be cut down and productivity improved through the use of modular integrated construction.

 

[Yogi]

should India work on 3 different frigate projects given the need for more & more ships for the navy???

like more Talwar class order should be given to Russians + P-17A's + UK type 26 effort

this will really give boost to Indian shipbuilding since both the Russians & UK are far ahead of us in it, they can really offer us there expertise in it.

so we can make 3 talwars + 7 P-17A's + 3or 4 type 26 i.e around 13 or 14 frigates, all due to commission in same time period, increasing the firepower of IN manifold

Brthr we have already given russia orders for 3 more n improved talwar class frigates + our all local shipyards r fully booked with our own orders

As far as giving more foreign orders is concerned i think our navy is already doing some pretty good job so no more need to give further foreign orders rather if need arises we should ask our own private shipyards like L&T n others to have foreign tie ups n manufacture them here in india itself

 

[RISING SUN]

Indian Navy Future Trimaran Stealth Frigate - YouTube

 

[RISING SUN]

Directorate of Naval Design (DND (SSG))

 

[RISING SUN]

i really not feeling happy by this news ARE WE WASTING TOO MUCH MONEY?

It's not wastage. It's called investment to absorb the shocks if you understand what I mean.