India far behind China’s combat power

[Anubis]

Sorry Duby difference in not that High. Pl look at the chart. They have mentioned JF 17 as Chinese fighter. In fact China do not operate JF 17. They do not have anything World class in their plane arsenal except SU 30 MKK which are very inferior to SU 30 MKI.

We have ray gun called KALI. Read it.

1.I'm not jewish.

2.China does not need to operate JF-17s...It operates J-10s....BUT since it worked in the development of Jf-17 that would mean they actually have the means of production of that aircraft

3.Warfare is not a football game....China not only outnumbers your airforce....it also holds the means of production of almost all of its aircrafts....Which means it can increase its arsenal way faster than you can in case of war.

4.KALI is not a weapon system...it is a tech demonstrator.....And Kali herself actually did not make it...so that rules out extra-terrestrial or other-wordly involvement in its origin!

Why do people always do a mathematical comparison between India and China? Do these guys who dish out such stuff know what 'threat analysis' is all about? A country builds its military power based on this analysis.

China has many 'fronts' to contend with - The US of A, Russia, Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, India, the littoral states bordering the South China Sea, the Asia Pacific region, and so on. India has two adversaries only - China and Pakistan.

It is therefore natural that China would have larger forces to deal with such multifarious threats compared to India. It's not as if the Chinese would pull out all their forces from all fronts and deploy them against India in the event of war.

So such comparisons are meaningless.

True but China has an ally that is more than willing to go to war with you....But India's allies(Russia and USA) won't be actually willing to go to war with China....would they?

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Another flawed analysis that totaly ignores geography and logistics.China can't bring most of this combat strength into action over the himalayas in the first place.

 

[OrionHunter]

China has an ally that is more than willing to go to war with you....But India's allies(Russia and USA) won't be actually willing to go to war with China....would they?

Really? And what makes you think so? There's a blossoming U.S.-India Strategic Partnership. The U.S.-India relationship today is marked by unprecedented convergence of geostrategic and geo-economic interests based on democratic values and principles.

This strategic partnership is visible in all the aspects of the bilateral relationship and is noticeable in the New Framework for the Defense Agreement, the U.S.-India civilian nuclear energy deal, frequent joint military exercises, defense ties, defense sales, counter-terrorism cooperation, high-tech cooperation, and economic cooperation.

The most significant features of this strategic partnership are in the defense, security, and nuclear spheres. These issues are the main component of the wider U.S.-India economic, political, and strategic relationship in the context of the emerging international order. Given current trends, in the coming years, the United States and India will be the two biggest countries to be aligned in a bilateral security and defense partnership.

 

[Anubis]

Really? And what makes you think so? There's a blossoming U.S.-India Strategic Partnership. The U.S.-India relationship today is marked by unprecedented convergence of geostrategic and geo-economic interests based on democratic values and principles.

This strategic partnership is visible in all the aspects of the bilateral relationship and is noticeable in the New Framework for the Defense Agreement, the U.S.-India civilian nuclear energy deal, frequent joint military exercises, defense ties, defense sales, counter-terrorism cooperation, high-tech cooperation, and economic cooperation.

The most significant features of this strategic partnership are in the defense, security, and nuclear spheres. These issues are the main component of the wider U.S.-India economic, political, and strategic relationship in the context of the emerging international order. Given current trends, in the coming years, the United States and India will be the two biggest countries to be aligned in a bilateral security and defense partnership.

And will that make your largest defence supplier happy??

 

[!nv!ctu$]

And will that make your largest defence supplier happy??

Russia is not only our arms supplier,it is our strategic ally.we don't make our new relations by sacrificing old relations,but we place our priorities top of everything.

 

[HariPrasad]

This is weird from Indian members, I never understood it. Nobody I talked to in Canada, US ever considering buying Indian the same as buying American or European.

India doesn't produce quality.

India is not a developed country it's technology is actually worse than China, but for some reason, so many Indian members seems to think their tech is superior just because the Americans laugh at our quality.

Guess what, Americans being the sole super power could laugh at us. India is neither developed nor a great power. What the Americans can do, India can't.

See man if you have read my post carefully, I have mentioned about missiles. Now tell Who can buy AgniV or K4? Is it possible for any country to buy or sale these missiles? So where is the question of exporting?

Yes of course we shall export brahmos.


So far as technology is concern, you guys hypes everything such as J 15( ton load) is superior to Su 33, Hq 9 is superior to S 400, J 20 is batter than F 22 etc. It is Chinese disease to hype everything. Did we ever said anything of such sort about any weapon except some missiles? in which we really have made progress.

 

[ChinaToday]

This is weird from Indian members, I never understood it. Nobody I talked to in Canada, US ever considering buying Indian the same as buying American or European.

India doesn't produce quality.

India is not a developed country it's technology is actually worse than China, but for some reason, so many Indian members seems to think their tech is superior just because the Americans laugh at our quality.

Guess what, Americans being the sole super power could laugh at us. India is neither developed nor a great power. What the Americans can do, India can't.

why bother replying to a retard he will soon learn where india stand in world stage

 

[KRAIT]

You have to forgive him. I respect your views. But sometimes, it feel like your views do not reflect the majority of Indians in here. Maybe the majority of Indians, but not the majority of Indian members here.

Most of these Indian members post in this way because of constant attacks by Pakistanis and Chinese trolls.

Not that Indians not do that.

Its due to nonconstructive discussion in many threads.

 

[HariPrasad]

1.I'm not jewish.

Did I say that?

2.China does not need to operate JF-17s...It operates J-10s....BUT since it worked in the development of Jf-17 that would mean they actually have the means of production of that aircraft

So can that be count is Chinese Strength?

3.Warfare is not a football game....China not only outnumbers your airforce....it also holds the means of production of almost all of its aircrafts....Which means it can increase its arsenal way faster than you can in case of war.

So China Will produce the weapon when the war is on right? We too produce Jaguar, Sukhoi 30 etc.

 

[truthseeker2010]

China and India follow different military philosophies. This gap stems from that fundamental difference. The militaries from continental europe to china are "clausewitzian" in nature. They seek the destruction of enemy forces as their first and basic objective. Their militaries are build accordingly. Or one can say they are always prepared for a full scale war in which one must first destory the bulk of enemy forces to enforce his will upon him. The british idea is different. Being an island nation they were never a great land power. They didnt fight land wars like big land powers. Pakistan and india inherited british military ideas therefore they are in a bad shape in terms of land warfare.

This is something our military planners have fail to understand to this day.....

 

[HariPrasad]

4.KALI is not a weapon system...it is a tech demonstrator.....And Kali herself actually did not make it...so that rules out extra-terrestrial or other-wordly involvement in its origin!

Educate yourself. Articles are there on PDF itself.

 

[halupridol]

is this news for somebody?

 

[HariPrasad]

is this news for somebody?

What? Pl elaborate.

 

[Zarvan]

Hindustan times thinks China has JF-17

Looks like the pitching for more weapons. Not bad

Yes they don't have JF-17 because they have J-10 and J-11 and SU-27 and SU-30 and really very soon J-15 and J-16

Why do people always do a mathematical comparison between India and China? Do these guys who dish out such stuff know what 'threat analysis' is all about? A country builds its military power based on this analysis.

China has many 'fronts' to contend with - The US of A, Russia, Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, India, the littoral states bordering the South China Sea, the Asia Pacific region, and so on. India has two adversaries only - China and Pakistan.

It is therefore natural that China would have larger forces to deal with such multifarious threats compared to India. It's not as if the Chinese would pull out all their forces from all fronts and deploy them against India in the event of war.

So such comparisons are meaningless.

The massive speed they are growing these threats will be not much and their main focus is still on you Sir

 

[kya_haal_hai]

What is the point of this thread