India Deploys Aircraft Carrier Amid Pak-China Naval Drill

[Foxtrot Delta]

Lol that rust bin is the easiest target

 

[Chhatrapati]

Why sink the carrier if disabling it and preventing operations from it will redirect greater Indian resources towards rescue, recovery & defense of said disabled carrier?

Provided you have the capability to at least find an AC, somewhere in Indian ocean and send a battle group/Jet or a missile that can evade the ADs and AWACS. Sure...

 

[AMRAAM]

Wait , clear message to both China and Pakistan ? .



Kkskskkskskksksksks

Pak and China United will send India to stone age , what do these people think of themselves ....

The US tried to sink it's retired USS America AC. It took them four weeks to completely sink the carrier through a series of explosions (otoh most details are classified) and found the effective method of sinking a carrier is not from above but from below by attacking the keel. That's why most carrier groups travel with frigates, Destroyers, attack submarines, ASW helos.

Carrier is not a large floating target for AWACS to spot, it's a floating air base AWACS wouldn't want to run into.

Well, your AC is 4300 tonnes ship while US ACs are 90k+ tonnes. See the difference and power to sink.

Lot of kids shouting boat on here. No substance.

Bollywood has totally ruined your brains. You can't seem to read and see very obvious details listed above.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

IN is by far the most impressive arm of the Indian Armed Forces.

Only bcz we did not pay attention to our navy. Dont forget we identified their sub 3 times. First in 2016 and two times after 27 Feb, one being Nuclear sub. Also what they did with their nuclear sub by leaving the hatchet open is beyond amazing

Depends upon how IN utilize them in case of hostilities. Chances are that they will be escorted during the course of operations. More importantly, Americans do not just hand over their equipment to a customer without training the said customer in their use.

P8i have two radar systems onboard, and can identify 'objects of interest' with great clarity from over 370 KM away. It can also be equipped with munitions to attack surface and maritime assets. Think of it being better than P3C Orion in all aspects.

P8i also talk to each other and other assets, and offer comprehensive surveillance experience in this manner.

IN is not to be taken lightly, now that it is receiving valuable input and technologies from both US and Israel.

ZDK 3s are dedicated for seas. They are gonna keep an eye on P8Is

 

[Keysersoze]

Ok Admiral sb, you could've saved PNS Ghazi.

That's a pretty pathetic comeback.
Having said that, people like you are why the IN has a record of blowing up their own submarines ....

 

[Chhatrapati]

That's a pretty pathetic comeback.
Having said that, people like you are why the IN has a record of blowing up their own submarines ....

It's rather overconfident people who have no clue what they are talking about caused the PNS Ghazi to sink searching for an AC that has left the Vizag harbor weeks ago. We can sit here theorizing how to Sink a carrier, or detect it by sending few AWACS then shoot at them with a missile or jet. It's pointless, so far your naval capacity is dismal to take on IN.

 

[Keysersoze]

It's rather overconfident people who have no clue what they are talking about caused the PNS Ghazi to sink searching for an AC that has left the Vizag harbor weeks ago. We can sit here theorizing how to Sink a carrier, or detect it by sending few AWACS then shoot at them with a missile or jet. It's pointless, so far your naval capacity is dismal to take on IN.

I am fully aware of the Indian navies capabilities. I am also aware of Indians ability to think too highly of their abilities. I m also aware of the funding issues with the IN. The issues with low morale. The issues with the poor maintenance, poor training and the regular accidents that are an indicator of the above.

Explain all of these then understand why I would believe anything you claim...

• December 2005: INS Trishul, a Talwar-class frigate, collided with a commercial vessel, Ambuja Laxmi, outside the Mumbai harbor, while returning from a training mission. This class of ship uses stealth technology and a special hull design to ensure a reduced radar cross section. Radar systems installed by the port authorities and those on board Ambuja Laxmi were unable to detect INS Trishuland prevent the side on collision. No casualties were reported.[8][9]
• April 2006: INS Prahar, a Veer-class corvette, sank after colliding with MV Rajiv Gandhi about 20 nautical miles (37 km; 23 mi) away from the Goacoast. No casualties were reported. The commanding officer of the ship, Lieutenant Commander Yogesh Tripathi was found guilty of negligence by an Indian Navy court-martial and dismissed from service.[10]
• September 2006: INS Dunagiri, a Nilgiri-class frigate, collided with a Shipping Corporation of India merchant vessel, MV Kiti, off the coast of Mumbai. There were no casualties, but the Dunagiri suffered damage and required extensive repairs.[11][12]
• January 2008: INS Sindhughosh, a Kilo-class submarine, collided with a foreign merchant vessel MV Leeds Castle while trying to surface in waters north of Mumbai.[9] The submarine was taking part in fleet-level war games, when the accident occurred. The Navy termed it a minor incident with no casualties reported.
• February 2008: Five crew were killed and three critically injured due to exposure to hydrogen sulfide aboard INS Jalashwa, a landing platform dock. The ship was taking part in exercises in the Bay of Bengal.[13]
• August 2009: A collision of the missile corvette INS Kuthar with destroyer INS Ranvir in the Bay of Bengal was traced to a rudder failure, compounded by a flawed maneuver.[1]

2010 - presentEdit

• In 2010, three crew members on destroyer INS Mumbai were instantly killed when an AK-630Close-in weapon system went off as safety drills were not followed.[1]
• January 2011: INS Vindhyagiri, a Nilgiri-class frigate, capsized after a collision with a Cyprus-flagged merchant vessel MV Nordlake near the Sunk Rock light house, following which a major fire broke out in the ship's engine and boiler room. Everyone on board was evacuated as soon as the fire broke out and hence there were no casualties.[14] INS Vindhyagiri was later decommissioned.[15]
• August 2013: Blasts ripped through the torpedo compartment of the submarine INS Sindhurakshakwhile it was berthed at the naval dockyard off the Mumbai coast. Fifteen sailors and three officers were killed.[16] Other sources state that a small explosion occurred around midnight which then triggered the two larger explosions.[17] The disaster was thought to be the Indian navy's worst since the sinking of the frigate INS Khukri by a Pakistani submarine during the 1971 war.[18]
• December 2013: INS Konkan, a Pondicherry-classminesweeper under the Eastern Naval Command, caught fire at the naval dockyard at Visakhapatnamwhile undergoing repairs. The fire engulfed much of the ship's interior before it was extinguished. No casualties were reported.[19]
• December 2013: In the second incident in the same month, INS Talwar, the lead ship of the Talwar-class frigates of the Indian Navy, collided with a fishing trawler injuring four of the 27 people on board the trawler and sinking it. The fishing trawler was operating without lights.[20] The captain of the ship was subsequently stripped of command.[21]
• December 2013: In the third incident in the same month, INS Tarkash, again a Talwar-class frigate, suffered damage to its hull when it hit the jetty while docking at the Mumbai naval base. The navy ordered a board of inquiry.[22]
• January 2014: INS Betwa, a Brahmaputra-classguided missile frigate, ran aground and collided with an unidentified object while approaching the Mumbai naval base. The sonar system of the frigate was cracked, leading to faulty readings and an ingress of saltwater into sensitive equipment.[23]
• January 2014: In the second incident in the same month, INS Vipul, a Veer-class corvette of the elite 22nd Killer Missile Vessel Squadron, was detected with a hole in its pillar compartment which forced the ship back into the harbour while it was on an operational deployment.[24]
• February 2014: On 3 February, INS Airavat, a Shardul-class amphibious warfare vessel, ran aground while returning to its home base at Visakhapatnam, causing slight damage to its propellers. Following the incident, its commanding officer, Captain JPS Virk, was relieved of command pending the findings of a Board of Inquiry.[25]
• February 2014: On 26 February, INS Sindhuratna, a Kilo-class submarine, had a fire detected on board when trials were being conducted which resulted in smoke leading to suffocation and death of two officers. Seven sailors were reported injured and were airlifted to the naval base hospital in Mumbai.[26] According to the naval board of inquiry, the fire was caused due to problems in the cables of the vessel.[27] This particular incident led to the resignation of Chief of Naval Staff (CNS) Admiral D K Joshi on 26 February 2014, who owned moral responsibility for the incidents in the past few months.[28]
• March 2014: INS Kolkata had a malfunction on board which led to a toxic gas leak killing Commander Kuntal Wadhwa instantly.[29]According to the Indian Navy, the ship suffered a malfunction in its carbon dioxide unit while undergoing machinery trials, leading to gas leakage.[30] Since the ship was not commissioned at the time of the incident, the enquiry into the mishap will be done by Mazagon Dock Limited, where the ship was constructed.
• May 2014: INS Ganga suffered a minor explosion in the boiler room while undergoing a refit at the Mumbai dockyard. Four people suffered minor injuries. There was no fire and no equipment was damaged.[31][32][33]
• November 2014: A torpedo recovery vessel of the Astravahini class A-73 sank 30 nautical miles (56 km; 35 mi) off the Vizag coast during a routine mission to recover torpedoes fired by fleet ships during a routine exercise. The accident resulted in the death of one sailor while four others were reported as missing however 23 other personnel were rescued by SAR teams deployed right after the incident.[34]
• March 2015: A Dornier Do 228 aircraft belonging to the Indian Navy Aviation Squadron 310, on a routine training mission, lost radar contact and ditched at sea about 20 nautical miles (37 km; 23 mi) southwest of Goa on the night of 24 March 2015. The aircrew on board the aircraft comprised three officers (two pilots and one female observer). The lone survivor, Commander Nikhil Kuldip Joshi, was picked up by a passing fishing boat. The bodies of the other two officers Lieutenant Abhinav Nagori and Lieutenant Kiran Shekhawat were recovered. Media reports suggested that the female observer could be the first woman in India's military to die in active service. Meanwhile, a Board of Inquiry was ordered to establish the cause of the accident.[35][36]
• November 2015: INS Kochi, a Kolkata-class destroyer, conducted BrahMos missile test firings whilst the airspace remained open to traffic, due to a communication failure.[37]
• March 2016: A fire broke out on the soon-to-be decommissioned aircraft carrier INS Viraat which resulted in the death of one and the injury of three others.[38]
• April 2016: A sailor lost his leg while two others were injured in an oxygen cylinder explosion on board INS Nireekshak. The explosion took place on 16 April while a diving bailout bottle, a small 12-inch (30 cm) oxygen bottle that is carried by divers in their diving helmet, was being charged. The sailors were admitted in the Military Hospital, Trivandrum as the ship was on it way to Mumbai from Visakhapatnam.[39][40]
• June 2016: Two people, a sailor and a civilian contractor, were killed by a toxic gas leak that occurred during maintenance work in the Sewage Treatment Plant compartment during the first refit of the aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya at Karwar. Two other people were injured and taken to the naval hospital.[41][42][43]
• August 2016: A minor fire broke out at INS Degaafter a MiG-29K accidentally jettisoned one of its drop tanks.[44]
• October 2016: Sub Lieutenant Tejveer Singh died on October 11, 2016 onboard INS Kuthar after he accidentally fired his 9mm pistol. He was shifted to Naval Hospital INHS Kalyani in Visakhapatnam where he succumbed to his injuries.[45]
• November 2016: The front portion of INS Nashakwas damaged when its GT engines failed in Mumbai harbor and it collided with a jetty on 18 November.[46]
• December 2016: Two sailors died and 14 others were injured when INS Betwa tipped over and crashed on its side while it was undocking in Mumbai on 6 December. The main mast of the ship broke when it tipped over due to a failure in the dock block mechanism. The ship was being undocked after undergoing a midlife refit.[47][48]
• January 2017: A minor fire broke out at 11.40am on 10 January in the Gyro compartment of INS Pralay during welding work at Mumbai naval dockyard. The fire was extinguished by the ship's staff and the Naval Dockyard fire station and no one was injured during the incident.[49][50]
• February 2017: A minor fire broke out on 1 February 2017 in the left engine room of INS Kamorta when it was operating at sea. The room was immediately evacuated and the fire put out using the ship's Fixed fire system and there were no injuries during the incident.[51][52]
• October 2017: INS Kadmatt (P29), while stern maneuvering to the dock, collided by the stern with Russian ship Irytsh in Vladivostok on October 19 during Indra 2017. Irytsh, a naval hospital ship, suffered hull dents over the waterline. According to reports, the main reasons attributed to the collision were language problems between the Indian officers and the on-board pilot and the corvette's commander lack of practice in making fast stern.[53]
• January 2018: A fire broke out in the store compartment aboard INS Shivalik but it was controlled in time and there was no major damage or casualties.[54][55]
• July 2018: A fire broke out at the Gyro compartment of the INS Pralaya (K91) but no one suffered any injuries.[56]
• April 2019: A fire broke out in the engine room of aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya which claimed the life of a naval officer

 

[Nomad40]

Indian Navy doesn’t need any Aircraft Carriers for Pak Navy...
If any serious conflict ever happen Brahmos will end all surface capabilities of Pak Navy in matter of hours.
Indian AC will only provide Air cover staying out of reach of any Pak Military assets.

gimme some of what you're smoking!

 

[Zulfiqar]

Please don't bring it near our ships, the second phase of live fire drill is starting.

We don't want any missiles to get attracted by this big pile of metal with huge RCS.

Or you can bring it near an we can have a race with our chinese comrades joining in on the fun.

http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2020-01/10/content_9714421.htm


KARACHI, Pakistan, Jan. 10 -- The port-training phase of the PN-PLAN Sea Guardians-2020 Bilateral Exercise wrapped up on Thursday. The Chinese-Pakistani composite fleet set sail from the Karachi Port to the scheduled exercise area in northern Arabian Sea for the second phase of live fire fleet drill on Friday morning.

 

[Nomad40]

lol awacs ... haha so Paf will use awacs to Indian Navy Ships and guide some anti ship missile rofl ... haha

OMG YOU HAVE NO CLUE MY BASTARD CHILD.

 

[khail007]

so far your naval capacity is dismal to take on IN.

Exactly ... our PAF capacity against IAF was also dismal as per Indian narratives and we proven it otherwise on 27/02 with returning you your lifetime achievement award (in shape of Abhi-none-done).
In-Shaa-Allah, for any misadventure by IN - just dare you Indians, PN will prove another 27/02 to satisfy your wishes.

 

[Verve]

I am fully aware of the Indian navies capabilities. I am also aware of Indians ability to think too highly of their abilities. I m also aware of the funding issues with the IN. The issues with low morale. The issues with the poor maintenance, poor training and the regular accidents that are an indicator of the above.

Explain all of these then understand why I would believe anything you claim...

• December 2005: INS Trishul, a Talwar-class frigate, collided with a commercial vessel, Ambuja Laxmi, outside the Mumbai harbor, while returning from a training mission. This class of ship uses stealth technology and a special hull design to ensure a reduced radar cross section. Radar systems installed by the port authorities and those on board Ambuja Laxmi were unable to detect INS Trishuland prevent the side on collision. No casualties were reported.[8][9]
• April 2006: INS Prahar, a Veer-class corvette, sank after colliding with MV Rajiv Gandhi about 20 nautical miles (37 km; 23 mi) away from the Goacoast. No casualties were reported. The commanding officer of the ship, Lieutenant Commander Yogesh Tripathi was found guilty of negligence by an Indian Navy court-martial and dismissed from service.[10]
• September 2006: INS Dunagiri, a Nilgiri-class frigate, collided with a Shipping Corporation of India merchant vessel, MV Kiti, off the coast of Mumbai. There were no casualties, but the Dunagiri suffered damage and required extensive repairs.[11][12]
• January 2008: INS Sindhughosh, a Kilo-class submarine, collided with a foreign merchant vessel MV Leeds Castle while trying to surface in waters north of Mumbai.[9] The submarine was taking part in fleet-level war games, when the accident occurred. The Navy termed it a minor incident with no casualties reported.
• February 2008: Five crew were killed and three critically injured due to exposure to hydrogen sulfide aboard INS Jalashwa, a landing platform dock. The ship was taking part in exercises in the Bay of Bengal.[13]
• August 2009: A collision of the missile corvette INS Kuthar with destroyer INS Ranvir in the Bay of Bengal was traced to a rudder failure, compounded by a flawed maneuver.[1]

2010 - presentEdit

• In 2010, three crew members on destroyer INS Mumbai were instantly killed when an AK-630Close-in weapon system went off as safety drills were not followed.[1]
• January 2011: INS Vindhyagiri, a Nilgiri-class frigate, capsized after a collision with a Cyprus-flagged merchant vessel MV Nordlake near the Sunk Rock light house, following which a major fire broke out in the ship's engine and boiler room. Everyone on board was evacuated as soon as the fire broke out and hence there were no casualties.[14] INS Vindhyagiri was later decommissioned.[15]
• August 2013: Blasts ripped through the torpedo compartment of the submarine INS Sindhurakshakwhile it was berthed at the naval dockyard off the Mumbai coast. Fifteen sailors and three officers were killed.[16] Other sources state that a small explosion occurred around midnight which then triggered the two larger explosions.[17] The disaster was thought to be the Indian navy's worst since the sinking of the frigate INS Khukri by a Pakistani submarine during the 1971 war.[18]
• December 2013: INS Konkan, a Pondicherry-classminesweeper under the Eastern Naval Command, caught fire at the naval dockyard at Visakhapatnamwhile undergoing repairs. The fire engulfed much of the ship's interior before it was extinguished. No casualties were reported.[19]
• December 2013: In the second incident in the same month, INS Talwar, the lead ship of the Talwar-class frigates of the Indian Navy, collided with a fishing trawler injuring four of the 27 people on board the trawler and sinking it. The fishing trawler was operating without lights.[20] The captain of the ship was subsequently stripped of command.[21]
• December 2013: In the third incident in the same month, INS Tarkash, again a Talwar-class frigate, suffered damage to its hull when it hit the jetty while docking at the Mumbai naval base. The navy ordered a board of inquiry.[22]
• January 2014: INS Betwa, a Brahmaputra-classguided missile frigate, ran aground and collided with an unidentified object while approaching the Mumbai naval base. The sonar system of the frigate was cracked, leading to faulty readings and an ingress of saltwater into sensitive equipment.[23]
• January 2014: In the second incident in the same month, INS Vipul, a Veer-class corvette of the elite 22nd Killer Missile Vessel Squadron, was detected with a hole in its pillar compartment which forced the ship back into the harbour while it was on an operational deployment.[24]
• February 2014: On 3 February, INS Airavat, a Shardul-class amphibious warfare vessel, ran aground while returning to its home base at Visakhapatnam, causing slight damage to its propellers. Following the incident, its commanding officer, Captain JPS Virk, was relieved of command pending the findings of a Board of Inquiry.[25]
• February 2014: On 26 February, INS Sindhuratna, a Kilo-class submarine, had a fire detected on board when trials were being conducted which resulted in smoke leading to suffocation and death of two officers. Seven sailors were reported injured and were airlifted to the naval base hospital in Mumbai.[26] According to the naval board of inquiry, the fire was caused due to problems in the cables of the vessel.[27] This particular incident led to the resignation of Chief of Naval Staff (CNS) Admiral D K Joshi on 26 February 2014, who owned moral responsibility for the incidents in the past few months.[28]
• March 2014: INS Kolkata had a malfunction on board which led to a toxic gas leak killing Commander Kuntal Wadhwa instantly.[29]According to the Indian Navy, the ship suffered a malfunction in its carbon dioxide unit while undergoing machinery trials, leading to gas leakage.[30] Since the ship was not commissioned at the time of the incident, the enquiry into the mishap will be done by Mazagon Dock Limited, where the ship was constructed.
• May 2014: INS Ganga suffered a minor explosion in the boiler room while undergoing a refit at the Mumbai dockyard. Four people suffered minor injuries. There was no fire and no equipment was damaged.[31][32][33]
• November 2014: A torpedo recovery vessel of the Astravahini class A-73 sank 30 nautical miles (56 km; 35 mi) off the Vizag coast during a routine mission to recover torpedoes fired by fleet ships during a routine exercise. The accident resulted in the death of one sailor while four others were reported as missing however 23 other personnel were rescued by SAR teams deployed right after the incident.[34]
• March 2015: A Dornier Do 228 aircraft belonging to the Indian Navy Aviation Squadron 310, on a routine training mission, lost radar contact and ditched at sea about 20 nautical miles (37 km; 23 mi) southwest of Goa on the night of 24 March 2015. The aircrew on board the aircraft comprised three officers (two pilots and one female observer). The lone survivor, Commander Nikhil Kuldip Joshi, was picked up by a passing fishing boat. The bodies of the other two officers Lieutenant Abhinav Nagori and Lieutenant Kiran Shekhawat were recovered. Media reports suggested that the female observer could be the first woman in India's military to die in active service. Meanwhile, a Board of Inquiry was ordered to establish the cause of the accident.[35][36]
• November 2015: INS Kochi, a Kolkata-class destroyer, conducted BrahMos missile test firings whilst the airspace remained open to traffic, due to a communication failure.[37]
• March 2016: A fire broke out on the soon-to-be decommissioned aircraft carrier INS Viraat which resulted in the death of one and the injury of three others.[38]
• April 2016: A sailor lost his leg while two others were injured in an oxygen cylinder explosion on board INS Nireekshak. The explosion took place on 16 April while a diving bailout bottle, a small 12-inch (30 cm) oxygen bottle that is carried by divers in their diving helmet, was being charged. The sailors were admitted in the Military Hospital, Trivandrum as the ship was on it way to Mumbai from Visakhapatnam.[39][40]
• June 2016: Two people, a sailor and a civilian contractor, were killed by a toxic gas leak that occurred during maintenance work in the Sewage Treatment Plant compartment during the first refit of the aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya at Karwar. Two other people were injured and taken to the naval hospital.[41][42][43]
• August 2016: A minor fire broke out at INS Degaafter a MiG-29K accidentally jettisoned one of its drop tanks.[44]
• October 2016: Sub Lieutenant Tejveer Singh died on October 11, 2016 onboard INS Kuthar after he accidentally fired his 9mm pistol. He was shifted to Naval Hospital INHS Kalyani in Visakhapatnam where he succumbed to his injuries.[45]
• November 2016: The front portion of INS Nashakwas damaged when its GT engines failed in Mumbai harbor and it collided with a jetty on 18 November.[46]
• December 2016: Two sailors died and 14 others were injured when INS Betwa tipped over and crashed on its side while it was undocking in Mumbai on 6 December. The main mast of the ship broke when it tipped over due to a failure in the dock block mechanism. The ship was being undocked after undergoing a midlife refit.[47][48]
• January 2017: A minor fire broke out at 11.40am on 10 January in the Gyro compartment of INS Pralay during welding work at Mumbai naval dockyard. The fire was extinguished by the ship's staff and the Naval Dockyard fire station and no one was injured during the incident.[49][50]
• February 2017: A minor fire broke out on 1 February 2017 in the left engine room of INS Kamorta when it was operating at sea. The room was immediately evacuated and the fire put out using the ship's Fixed fire system and there were no injuries during the incident.[51][52]
• October 2017: INS Kadmatt (P29), while stern maneuvering to the dock, collided by the stern with Russian ship Irytsh in Vladivostok on October 19 during Indra 2017. Irytsh, a naval hospital ship, suffered hull dents over the waterline. According to reports, the main reasons attributed to the collision were language problems between the Indian officers and the on-board pilot and the corvette's commander lack of practice in making fast stern.[53]
• January 2018: A fire broke out in the store compartment aboard INS Shivalik but it was controlled in time and there was no major damage or casualties.[54][55]
• July 2018: A fire broke out at the Gyro compartment of the INS Pralaya (K91) but no one suffered any injuries.[56]
• April 2019: A fire broke out in the engine room of aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya which claimed the life of a naval officer

Wow, that's some track record.

What about the damage to their nuclear sub?

 

[Keysersoze]

Wow, that's some track record.

What about the damage to their nuclear sub?

You see this is the thing. This is how they perform in peacetime. Now imagine wartime pressures. No sleep, people rushing and making panicky decisions. (Like shooting down your own aircraft).....

 

[Minho]

Lol that rust bin is the easiest target

The INS Vikraant was even rustier than the Vikramaditya, but you couldn't sink it in 71 even with the PNS Ghazi

 

[PakFactor]

The INS Vikraant was even rustier than the Vikramaditya, but you couldn't sink it in 71 even with the PNS Ghazi

Funny, from all sources your guys hid the ship from PNS Ghazi.