India deploys 36,000 extra troops on Chinese border

[Ganga]

Not to mention a violation of a 1993 treaty limiting the deployment of troops.

But China is also increasing it's troop presence and building border infrastructure.It is only natural that India is responding to the Chinese moves or should i say provocations.

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

Lets hope not -- I hope will not allow anything to derail it's rise, the hopes of billions of people rests on this. Whether Japan or India or any other US "ally" in Asia will hope to stop or slow or even reverse the rise of China, China should not allow herself to fall in this trap.

lol, nice but you forgot one crucial ally of US and that is pakistan

 

[CardSharp]

But China is also increasing it's troop presence and building border infrastructure.It is only natural that India is responding to the Chinese moves or should i say provocations.

Give me a reference about China increasing its troop levels near AP and what? China should stop building civilian infrastructure in all of Tibet because it makes the Indian press hysterical? The agreement doesn't cover building roads and rail.

 

[Ganga]

Give me reference about China increasing its troop levels near AP and what China should stop building civilian infrastructure in all of Tibet? The treaty isn't against building road and rail.

There have been reports of China deploying a certain class of missile in the border areas.Furthermore the civilian infrastructure you are talking about can be used for military purposes when required.China has not complained so far which means that the troop raise is within the limits.Frankly speaking whether we raise 36000 or a 100000 additional troops is none of China's business .We are a sovereign country and we will do what is good for us.

 

[LaBong]

Give me a reference about China increasing its troop levels near AP and what? China should stop building civilian infrastructure in all of Tibet because it makes the Indian press hysterical? The agreement doesn't cover building roads and rail.

Neither does the treaty specify any number, it only tells you to limit the number.

Also those civilian infras have dual-use, both for military and civilians. Considering Tibet a sparsely populated country, it'll mainly be used for military. Both you and I know this, let's not pretend.

 

[LaBong]

Frankly speaking whether we raise 36000 or a 100000 additional troops is none of China's business .We are a sovereign country and we will do what is good for us.

No, when China deploy J10s in Tibet, it's China's internal matter, but when India raise troops it's a provocation.

 

[CardSharp]

There have been reports of China deploying a certain class of missile in the border areas.Furthermore the civilian infrastructure you are talking about can be used for military purposes when required.China has not complained so far which means that the troop raise is within the limits.Frankly speaking whether we raise 36000 or a 100000 additional troops is none of China's business .We are a sovereign country and we will do what is good for us.

So India signs international treaties and breaks them. Good to know India's word doesn't count.

 

[Ganga]

So India signs international treaties and breaks them. Good to know India's word doesn't count.

Treaties are made to be broken.You will see it throughout history .When the question of national security arises a treaty signed sometime in the past is irrelevant.

 

[LaBong]

So India signs international treaties and breaks them. Good to know India's word doesn't count.

Please post the whole transcript of the treaty and specify exactly how India is breaking the treaty before posting stupid claims.

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

Not to mention a violation of a 1993 treaty limiting the deployment of troops on the disputed border. It was signed during PM Rao's visit to Beijing.

Do you have any source to prove this ?

 

[LaBong]

Treaties are made to be broken.You will see it throughout history .When the question of national security arises a treaty signed sometime in the past is irrelevant.

It doesn't break any treaty. There's no formal complaint of any kind from CCP about breaking any sort of treaties.

 

[Ganga]

It doesn't break any treaty. There's no formal complaint of any kind from CCP about breaking any sort of treaties.

Yes i know that.But even if a treaty is broken for national security reasons there is no harm in it.

 

[Speeder 2]

I wonder when was the last time Speeder visited China.

err... 2007. BTW, being Chinese bears no connection with where you are.

Calling the Japanese "our kin" is something I just can't imagine anyone agreeing with.

But really? Please try to earn more reputation on pro-China, cuz right now you and many Indian anti-China members score similar in my book.

 

[Speeder 2]

So basically in a word you're a Han Chauvinist (in the academic sense). I can't say I agree but you probably just say that I am PC white-washed.

Also I am generally against pop-psychology in an argument. You only know us and gambit through the distorted little window that is the PDF, hardly enough for a clinical diagnosis, something is wrong half the time anyways.

I am not a Chauvinist, close, but definitely not. I am just a intellectually honest nationalist, honest and brutally hones one. But you are righ tthat you are way too PC to my taste. Again, that doesn't neccesarily make you a bad person.

 

[Speeder 2]

its funny how someone who is such a han supremacist, is so out of touch with the realities.

speeder, the fantasy world you live in is largely divorced from reality. you have no idea what people in china are thinking. you also have no idea what the americans are thinking. it is easy to dispel these "myths" but you refuse to do so because it will alter your world view. i've only seen whites with your attitude: the facts have to accomodate your opinion, your opinion will never change due to the facts.

your world view is that of a european, not that of a chinese. stick to european issues. having chinese ethnicity does not give you license to represent china or chinese. you are not even a citizen of this country, how can you represent it?

some typo corrections:

Please do NOT address me as Supermacist, because I am not, not a single sentence in my posts has shown that I am a Supermacist. I admit though that I am a racialist ( note: noe racist). Telling what is the fact is fundamentally different from taking adavantage of the fact in order to discriminate all and everyone /thing under that cap.

And I wish all other people ( ordinary people of course) well.


Where I am, what's my nationality, how often I've been to China and how good is my Chinese caligraphy, etc . have nothing to do with my "Chinese-ness". On the contrary, a natural born and fed Chinese in China who has been in CHina all the time does not neccesarily guarantee fully his/her "Chinese-ness" by default, and for that matter, his/her understanding of what are China's main problems and long-term challenges.

Chinese-ness is what you think, culturally, not where we are. e.g. I find the Chinese-ness of some 3rd genaration Malaysian ethnic Chinese and some Taiwanese Chinese who have never set their feet onto China mainland once, have put many Chinese I encountered In China and myself into shame!

I have never claimed that I represent all Chinese or even majority of Chinese ( I don't care the number count, really, as number count only means popularity, not correctness) , overseas or in China. I only state my view, quite undiplomatically though. I hope you do the same. No offence.