India being left out of Afghan matrix

[TechLahore]

Dont forget how public opinion is against Pakistan in Afghanistan. That is all what counts and is the most important issue.

If you are referring to that recent so-called, "Survey", I think many of us made the point in that thread that a) it is not inclusive as far as we are concerned, b) it could not have extended to no-go areas which are by definition not aligned with the current northern alliance + ex-UNOCAL employee government and c) it was conducted under the auspices of the current afghan government which is - by all accounts - mired with corruption, filled with warlords that have their own agendas and not representative of the Pashtun/Baloch/pro-Talib Uzbek numbers in Afghanistan.

We don't buy the results of this survey.

I don't wish to argue with you. There is only one thing to do. Sit and wait and see what happens in Afghanistan over the next two years. We've already waited 8 years, what's another two. If you are right, then Pakistan will not have any meaningful influence in Afghanistan, and if we are right, then India's role will be marginalized.

Let's just wait and see.

 

[SMC]

It will do well if you check on who the world calls the epicenter of terrorism and an international migrane....

We have been over this several time dude. What you're saying is a very simplistic and naive view. Other states only criticize and appreciate whom they need to do so. It's not like they are transparent and impartial. They do whats in their interests. We know for a fact that india is supporting mass terrorism on an epic scale, yet western states won't acknowledge that because its not in their interests to do so.

 

[notsuperstitious]

We have been over this several time dude. What you're saying is a very simplistic and naive view. Other states only criticize and appreciate whom they need to do so. It's not like they are transparent and impartial. They do whats in their interests. We know for a fact that india is supporting mass terrorism on an epic scale, yet western states won't acknowledge that because its not in their interests to do so.

Will it be ok if we changed the nameplate like in Muridke?

Because we also know for a fact that pakistan is supporting terrorism on a mass scale.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Will it be ok if we changed the nameplate like in Muridke?

Because we also know for a fact that pakistan is supporting terrorism on a mass scale.

Did the naked snake charming sadho sitting under a big banyan tree tell you ?
About maridke?

 

[karan.1970]

Did the naked snake charming sadho sitting under a big banyan tree tell you ?
About maridke?

Khisiyani Billi khamba noche??

C'mon PN, you can do better....

 

[notsuperstitious]

Did the naked snake charming sadho sitting under a big banyan tree tell you ?
About maridke?

No, the same djinn that's been telling you guys.

 

[karan.1970]

Israel does, America does.

Its okay when you're fighting against the terrorists as we are.

which are your own creation. Reap what you sow is so Clichéd but couldnt have suited any better.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

No, the same djinn that's been telling you guys.

Telling us what?the caught RDS?medicine?surgical equipment?indian made weapons?or bas...d spies like kashmir singh?or sabarjeet bastard who killed several innocent people in blasts?or the facts that terrorists like balach and harbiyar confessing of being supported by some terrorist bas...ds from kabul on national tv?
If thats the djin then Heil naked indian swami snake charmer sitting under a banyan tree.moun mein ram ram baghal mein churi.

 

[karan.1970]

We have been over this several time dude. What you're saying is a very simplistic and naive view. Other states only criticize and appreciate whom they need to do so. It's not like they are transparent and impartial. They do whats in their interests. We know for a fact that india is supporting mass terrorism on an epic scale, yet western states won't acknowledge that because its not in their interests to do so.

One thing you learn in management is that there is no reality. Its only perception. It doesnt matter what you believe is real. Unless your perception of reality matches with rest of the world, you will always find yourself swimming against the current as in the case of Pakistan today. And peceptions are not formed in vacuum. They are based on past displayed behaviour. So today Pakistan calling someone else a terrorist and asking rest of the globe to take its word for it is a very huge ask. That is further made difficult by Pakistan's past track record in this. For the moment , lets leave the whole Kashmir issue on one side. The problem that Pakistan faces is that US that knows the complete details of how pakistan nurtured insurgency in Afghanistan both pre and post USSR war is standing against the same taliban that Pakistan created. Since US was fully in the know of Pakistan's strategy in Afg in the past, Pakistan has no hope in hell of wriggling its way out by pleading innocence. Because of which it has to watch helplessly as the US drones massacre its strategic assets in Afg. Knowing all this, when the world body hears pakistan accuse India of formenting terrorism in Pakistan, the reaction is pretty obvious. You may chose to discount it by calling it a falsehood or a partial reaction, but then going back to the strat of my post.. there is no reality in vacuum. Its all about perception...

 

[karan.1970]

Telling us what?the caught RDS?medicine?surgical equipment?indian made weapons?or bas...d spies like kashmir singh?or sabarjeet bastard who killed several innocent people in blasts?or the facts that terrorists like balach and harbiyar confessing of being supported by some terrorist bas...ds from kabul on national tv?
If thats the djin then Heil naked indian swami snake charmer sitting under a banyan tree.moun mein ram ram baghal mein churi.

Dude.. go easy on expletives.. You have just gone past the number of posts that you were able to put up before you got banned last time. I really enjoy sparring with you.. Would hate to see mods take action again..So lets keep this at a civilized if not friendly level..

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Dude.. go easy on expletives.. You have just gone past the number of posts that you were able to put up before you got banned last time. I really enjoy sparring with you.. Would hate to see mods take action again..So lets keep this at a civilized if not friendly level..

Why is it bad to abuse a convited murdering terrorist scum on a death row?If it is im more then happy to call saberjeet a bastard 100000000 times.

 

[Desert Fox]

How wonderfull!!!!

Of course India is going to Fail, when you have retired Pakistanie Army man speaking such words. I Guess he is next in the ISI list of never to be heard from Again!!!!!

Any Orators wins hearts by words, but Actions always prevails.

Currently all we have is words from Pakistanie sides, but hardly any actions of rectifing the solution, even in there owen country forget discussing Afganistan. I think "‘Colonel Imam’" sound like ones of these Baptist preacher in the church, who is screaming to his little audience.

Lol, look who's talking! you people don't even have sanitation or enough toilets for your more than 600,000 million population and you want to help build Afghanistan?

About "colonel Imam", i saw his interview on youtube, the guy doesn't scream , he speaks softly and kindly like a true disciplined civilized soldier!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Your opinion does not matter, only india's opinion matters. We have kasab, muridke, jud, dawood hiding in pak, daily infilteration attempts in kashmir, kabul embassy blasts etc all linked to bas...ds in your nation. we have survey results showing 43% pakistanis support terrorism in the form of let. you will reap what you sow, if you think this nonsense is a one way street, then you are going to find out two can play the game.

about the indian involvement in terrorism, give us proof that is acceptable to our courts and then we'll see what we can do about it

And your opinion does?
you have kasab and nothing else, wats jud?and wats your evidence reguarding muridke?
and tell me what evidence do you have reguarding Mr dawood ibrahim living in Pakistan?
whats the evidence reguarding kabul blast????
if you dont have any please shut the fudge up.
Wasnt manomohan singh given evidence in egypt?if he denies hes nothing more then a liar
isnt india warned times and again?
Isnt india stealing water and violating indus treaty?isnt india violating human rights in kashmir>?isnt india violation UNs charter reguarding independence and refrendum????????
What about indian ba...d spies in our jails>like saberjeet singh?kashmir singh?
Give us proof against hafiz saeed that OUR COURTS APPROVE
advice = crying like a unpaid escort never helps try reality.

 

[karan.1970]

Why is it bad to abuse a convited murdering terrorist scum on a death row?If it is im more then happy to call saberjeet a bastard 100000000 times.

Chill kar dost.. Was just asking you to avoid breaking the forum rules that's all..

 

[Desert Fox]

Remember Indians, Pakistanis and Afghans are from the same racial stock Islam or Hinduism is irrelevant.

What the? Where the hell do these indians come up with this stuff? what the hell have you been smoking? can i get some?

this is hilarious

Afghans have nothing in common with india, and neither does Pakistanis (except Mohajirs)!

Not trying to be racist here, but this is fact, Afghans look nothing like indians! Trust me, i know Afghans because of seen a lot of them!

And when you compare a indian with Afghan you'll know what i mean!