J20 threat is going to be massive post 2020.
Indians need to get there arse in gear
either Rafale F3
F35 lightening govt to govt deal
FGFA
As stated earlier, J20 would be for the Securing China from East in South China Sea, to create the Anti access, Anti Denial zone to counter F-35.
F-35 govt to govt deal, lolz -- Before F-35 deal, sign CISMOA, BECA and various other U.S equipments, to support high speed tactical links, and access to the U.S satellite, because without them those F-35 would be just a tin can, because making a mission flight, all mission related data would be downloaded from the U.S server and after mission all Flight Data log would be duly uploaded for the Americans.
As per report they are pushing it as 5th Gen
Small changes, they are pushing it as a 5th Generation Air Warfare Capable. In reality, they are far behind the Rafale and EF-2000.
At the moment only plausible option is to opt for ready to go production rather than newer frame but interest seems to be low for later as well as collaborative design .
There is no PAK FA, only T-50 prototype as a technology demonstrator. And most important feature needed its engine is not ready yet. There is no threat for India from U.S at the moment, to die for the FGFA at the moment.
Report does make a point that Rafale at the end of day is 4++ Gen but F35 is 5th Gen
Those Generation are in reality are the marketing terms. Rafale is fully 5th Gen. capable combat plane just like F-35, but F-35 is stealth, and Rafale relies on its Spectra for its survival.
I dont want to spoil the thread but fact suggests some thing else and Indian negotiators have pushed them against the wall .
You are doing good. For the record, the delay of the Rafale deal is due to negotiation far deeper. Rafale + Scorpean, India + UAE, Aura + nUERON, Thales + MDPU + AMCA.
Why you say that F35 will be produced in several countries under LM production supervision a good chance for Indian`s to secure an assembly line
As a matter of facts, Indian demands for transfer of technology, and use of Indian Satellites and BMS and Indian Specific Munitions is more than enough to reject the LM offer.
With the Brazil deal, production capacity is going to increase significantly.
As for evaluation result, there was a technical evaluation of Gripen C.
Then, I guess a projection of the capabilities of Gripen E.
After the technical evaluation is done, other aspects are considerex.
The real showstopper was the non availability of Gripen E when
the decision for the shortlist was done.
Gripen E could have ended up at the top, and still not beeing shortlisted.
The fact that it was not short listed says NOTHING about the technical evaluation.
It is the expected performance of Gripen E, not the Gripen C data that counts here..
As a matter of facts, during MMRCA competition, IAF/RM allows the various contendor OEMs to show the lab demostrator, therefore the SAAB didn't showed NG, but took part in the competition with the NG specs, similarly F-16 IN was only theoratical, and the real bird presented was F-16 block 60, similarly there was no MIG-35 airframe, but took part in the competition.
@PARIKRAMA and others...
The word twin engine here
http://m.hindustantimes.com/punjab/...ys-parrikar/story-ZfS4wWHzMzaImHG8a5RyhP.html
It will he Rafales + plus an unexpected , not talked about aircraft.
That twin engine is Rafale F3/F3R, and another twin engine more suited to India is Combat HAWK being developed by HAL and BAE and been expected to be ready by 2017.
3 different light jet fighters in service. It is a nightmare for logistics. I would rather get 3-5 each for research.
We are getting to get it reverse Engineering, and then we will produced as J-100, J-101, J-102, J-103 and J-104.
India would be replacing MIG-27 & MIG-21 with F-16s
RAFALEs would replace M2Ks and MIG-29s.
So it is replacing four types with two types.
FGFA & SAAB are JVs for long term goals.
M2K, Jaguar and MIG-29 would get upgrades, and would serve India till 2035.
MIG 21 and MIG-27 would be replaced by LCA Tejas and Combat HAWK. There would be no need for the Specialized Ground attack combat plane like MIG-27, as Light PGM, Air to Ground Cruise Missile and long range GPS assisted Strandoff weapons would suffix those needs. MKI would become the workhorse of the IAF in future.
All this generation business has ended with the F-22. 5th Generation has become a meaningless term now.
Unless some radically different technology is introduced, all aircraft with the right technologies, particularly to enable stealth, can be termed as 5th generation. With enough investment, even aircraft like JF-17 and LCA can be equipped with 5th gen tech.
However, aircraft with internal weapons bays and supercrusie capable engines will have a significant energy advantage over their counterparts without these technologies.
Google MDPU for processing huge amount of DATA, which makes the difference.
