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India’s vanishing Parsis

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A BOLLYWOOD comedy released on August 24th, “Shirin Farhad Ki Toh Nikal Padi” (“Shirin and Farhad Have Got It Made”), revolves around the bumbling courtship of two middle-aged Parsis. The scene where Shirin accidentally eats her engagement ring is pure farce. But much else in the film touches on the real predicament of the Parsis: that this disproportionately successful Indian community is shrinking fast.

The Parsis began arriving in Bombay (now Mumbai) from Gujarat in the 1600s, having much earlier fled Persia when the spread of Islam threatened their Zoroastrian religion. Over a century later they forged Bombay’s rise as a remarkable business hub, managing India’s opium sales to China and ploughing the profits into cotton mills and banks. Today Parsi families such as Tata, Godrej and Wadia are among India’s top corporate dynasties, with a hand in everything from padlocks to five-star hotels. The community has its own housing estates, hospitals and venture-capital funds. Parsis like to describe themselves as India’s Jews.

Yet they are on the wane. Perhaps 61,000 Parsis are left in India today, three-quarters of them in Mumbai. Their numbers have fallen by a tenth in each decade since the 1950s. The Parsis closed their maternity hospital in Mumbai a decade ago because of a lack of births. The venture-capital fund is struggling to find young entrepreneurs. Nostalgia pervades Parsi clubs, where elderly ladies play rummy in faded English dresses.

Jehangir Patel, editor of Parsiana, a magazine for the Parsi community, says Parsis often marry late, like the lovebirds in the film, or not at all. Many migrate to the West. The group’s closed nature poses more problems. The children of women who marry outside do not count as Parsis, despite an otherwise progressive attitude to women. Some Zoroastrian priests do not admit converts.

In desperation, this year the Bombay Parsi Association raised its monthly cash handouts to 3,000 rupees ($54) for couples with a second child and to 5,000 rupees for those with a third. It gives newly-weds first dibs on housing. Indian officials are usually focused on keeping a lid on the country’s growing population of 1.2 billion. Yet the national planning commission is mulling a $360,000 scheme to increase the Parsis’ dwindling numbers through fertility treatments and advertising campaigns.

Rich youngsters remain unswayed by handouts. The Parsi youth association in Mumbai, founded in 2009 to turn around the shrinking population, holds frequent speed-dating sessions and produces a calendar of the community’s hottest pin-ups. It even held a three-day get-together last year, where guests were put up in a plush Tata hotel and partied in the corridors. Yet even those revels, sighs Viraf Mehta, a 34-year-old single banker who heads the association, led only to fleeting “hook-ups”.
 
Yes we are going to die out.

Eventually.

I just hope it happens after Iran reverts.

So that we can pass the flame back.

And the books and knowledge which we have protected till now.

I see Iran increasingly ready.

Just the barrier of language remains. Not even our Iroons speak Persian (I think they speak Dari)

Even the culture is not much different.
 
You people are a victim of you own success. :cry:

Being economically successful has led you people to have low fertility rates.

Well we are a victim of many things.

We did not intermingle because we promised the Hindus and we did not expect this to be our permanent home initially.

It was supposed to be followed by the men left behind either winning Persia back or coming over to India to bolster the ranks.

Neither happened. Persia bowed and became Muslim Iran. And the men stayed back as Muslims.

In India, over time this became community dogma - as what happens with all institutionalized religions.

So that people can question, but the Dastoor and Mobeds are the final authority.

That helped us to remain distinct.

But it also killed us off, cause there were not very many of us to begin with.

It is too late to reverse that now 1300 years on.

The only consolation is that we still number slightly more than the Jarawas and are not yet at "tribe" level number wise.
 
Well we are a victim of many things.

We did not intermingle because we promised the Hindus and we did not expect this to be our permanent home initially.

Over time this became community dogma - as what happens with all institutionalized religions.

So that people can question, but the Dastoor and Mobeds are the final authority.

That helped us to remain distinct.

But it also killed us off, cause there were not very many of us to begin with.

It is too late to reverse that now 1300 years on.

The only consolation is that we still number slightly more than the Jarawas and are not yet at "tribe" level number wise.

Any idea about people, who convert to Zoroastrianism in India?
 
The Indian Zoroastrian population does not convert. There are no two views on that.

What there are increasingly two views on is a small group of (now outlawed) Dastoors who have started performing the Navjote ceremony for kids of Parsi mothers married to non-Parsi fathers.

And certain Agyaris that have now allowed entry for some women and their kids inside.

But they are very few and this is a matter of epic fire bomb debates and fights and Zoroastrian style fatwas being thrown left and right.

We have a tremendous capacity for politics, bickering, fighting, and argumenting all day all night.

If we simply got together and made out like other communities, things would have been much different.

But we are used to a certain standard of living, and most couple will not compromise on that for themselves or their future kids.

To an extent where its not about money.

The Zoroastrian Charities and Trusts built up in Mumbai alone over the past 5 centuries are more than the GDP of many small nations.

In Mumbai its all about housing.
 
Well we are a victim of many things.

We did not intermingle because we promised the Hindus and we did not expect this to be our permanent home initially.

It was supposed to be followed by the men left behind either winning Persia back or coming over to India to bolster the ranks.

Neither happened. Persia bowed and became Muslim Iran. And the men stayed back as Muslims.

In India, over time this became community dogma - as what happens with all institutionalized religions.

So that people can question, but the Dastoor and Mobeds are the final authority.

That helped us to remain distinct.

But it also killed us off, cause there were not very many of us to begin with.

It is too late to reverse that now 1300 years on.

The only consolation is that we still number slightly more than the Jarawas and are not yet at "tribe" level number wise.

How many children do you have doc.
 

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