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Imran Khan's bullet proof air conditioned container for PTI's march

Same old, stupid allegations. Which news do you read? NOT A SINGLE PTI SUPPORTER HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE VIOLENCE. It was Qadri's supporters who were killed in clashes with police. Not IK's.
"Taliban Khan", again. The last time I tried to talk to you, you dragged in IK's "illegitimate" daughter because you couldn't find anything else to accuse him of.

All IK wants is a peaceful protest against election rigging. He wants re-elections, and that makes him a "Taliban".
Meanwhile, PMLN ordering police to barricade entire cities is perfectly OK and not an extreme reaction.
My suggestion to you will be to save your breath and time. You cannot convince certain people no matter what you throw at them. At this point of time, they are talking about probabilities. The world can come to an end tomorrow is as much possible as is violent protest from IK. What we have seen previously is that neither IK, nor TAQ's supporter resorted to violence. Even after losing 14 lives of its peaceful protesters in the hands of Gullu Butt Punjab Police. Then what is changed now? it is that the PML(N) government has lost her nerves and ready to wield brutal state power against the peaceful protesters. Nawaza/Shahbaz are trying to act like Sisi but conveniently forgetting that unlike Sisi, Army is not on their back. Army will not fire a single bullet against her own people.

Having said that, I am still of opinion that IK has achieved more that what he had hoped for. He should now turn back and not proceed further. That is best for him and for Pakistan.
 
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Threats and instigating hate, crimes and risking people's lives should NEVER be allowed under any country. Period. Even if the 10 seats he keeps talking about were lost, he STILL doesn't get ANY majority to rule the country. Why BREAK the country with the little labor he has to show? He hasn't done JACK in KPK, now instead of measuring his performance, he's trying to take over the country through violence and by getting innocents killed???

my concern is who will be responsible if some trouble maker get in the crowd or in azadi march to create trouble? I mean even TTP can wear pti shirt and get in the crowds with pti flags ..now when qadri goons are also part of this azadi march then how they will differentiate between supporters and how they will differentiate who did what when some fasadi can take advantage of this azadi march..Imran also said if anything happen to him then supporters should take revenge from sharif family..now what if someone else third party take advantage of this situation and attack on IK or his supporters knowing that he already made sharif and some gullu responsible for all the trouble in the coming azadi march
 
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My suggestion to you will be to save your breath and time. You cannot convince certain people no matter what you throw at them. At this point of time, they are talking about probabilities. The world can come to an end tomorrow is as much possible as is violent protest from IK. What we have seen previously is that neither IK, nor TAQ's supporter resorted to violence. Even after losing 14 lives of its peaceful protesters in the hands of Gullu Butt Punjab Police. Then what is changed now? it is that the PML(N) government has lost her nerves and ready to wield brutal state power against the peaceful protesters. Nawaza/Shahbaz are trying to act like Sisi but conveniently forgetting that unlike Sisi, Army is not on their back. Army will not fire a single bullet against her own people.

Having said that, I am still of opinion that IK has achieved more that what he had hoped for. He should now turn back and not proceed further. That is best for him and for Pakistan.

I agree.
In my opinion, IK should lower his demands a bit. He should demand a full and transparent investigation and a complete reformation of the Election Commission, along with justice for the 14 people murdered. Then, he can wait for next elections. This will be better for Pakistan, and won't result in damage for PTI. If, they cancel the march completely, they'll lose a lot of public support.
 
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What's wrong with destroying a Monarchy in The Islamic REPUBLIC of Pakistan?
He never said "we will take over Islamabad". If he did,please provide a link.
Not suggesting murder. He meant "don't let them stay in power". Stuff tends to get distorted when you translate it like that, doesn't it?
No, just an exaggeration. He's suggesting re-elections. PMLN has said many exaggerated things during their rallies too.
Another thing: If he can't get that many votes, yet is so power hungry, WHY IS HE DEMANDING RE-ELECTIONS?!

As for the bloodshed, it's perfectly ok when PMLN orders police to go and kill 14 innocents as long as they're from another party, right?

Show me the proof of where he said what you are telling me? Let's see if you guys even know how to defend yourself through dialogue. I don't think that'll happen as extremists resolve to violence, you've done that in many posts (by trying to insult me and others) and the Taliban Khan has been doing the same. Making a nation of 200 Million people a FOOL!
1) Show me links that show us what you are saying above it his actual statements
2) Show me the proof of the 10 seat deal
3) Show me what he's done in KPK (projects, investments, benefits)
4) Tell me why do a million or two million people need to hi-jack a country of 200 MILLION people through violence and risking innocent people's lives. 98% of the 200 Million people didn't vote for the Taliban Khan.....does he have a right to kidnap the entire state over 1% of votes out of 200 MILLION people?
 
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my concern is who will be responsible if some trouble maker get in the crowd or in azadi march to create trouble? I mean even TTP can wear pti shirt and get in the crowds with pti flags ..now when qadri goons is also part of this azadi march then how they will differentiate between supporters and how they will differentiate who did what when some fasadi can take advantage of this azadi march..Imran also said if anything happen to him then supporters should take revenge from sharif family..now what if someone else third party take advantage of this situation and attack on IK or his supporters knowing that he already made sharif and some gullu responsible for all trouble in the coming azadi march

That's a concern we all share. From what I hear, PTI has formed a 3000 member, unarmed youth group to prevent this kind of stuff. Plus, since the army is present, if (god forbid) such an incident does take place, it will probably be stopped quickly.
 
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I agree.
In my opinion, IK should lower his demands a bit. He should demand a full and transparent investigation and a complete reformation of the Election Commission, along with justice for the 14 people murdered. Then, he can wait for next elections. This will be better for Pakistan, and won't result in damage for PTI. If, they cancel the march completely, they'll lose a lot of public support.

Thank you for agreeing with me. I am just using some basic common sense here. You know, if he does the march and nothing comes out, his political future is dead. If he's a little smart, he can gain more votes by coming on TV, saying that he's decided NOT to do the march in PUBLIC's BEST interest. He can blame the gov't as he's used to for everything and that's fine. People will look at him as someone who cares for them and they would understand he knows how and when to bend his rules for people's safety. The extreme Taliban style only results in dead bodies, whether its a suicide bomb blast in Pakistan or it's a long march to capture the government through force. Nothing good has ever come out of violence and threats.

Btw, your military is NOT going to support him. That's for sure. The military has learned about the devastating consequences of supporting violence against the democracy. This here, may end up breaking your country, literally. So be wise please
 
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Show me the proof of where he said what you are telling me? Let's see if you guys even know how to defend yourself through dialogue. I don't think that'll happen as extremists resolve to violence, you've done that in many posts (by trying to insult me and others) and the Taliban Khan has been doing the same. Making a nation of 200 Million people a FOOL!
1) Show me links that show us what you are saying above it his actual statements
2) Show me the proof of the 10 seat deal
3) Show me what he's done in KPK (projects, investments, benefits)
4) Tell me why do a million or two million people need to hi-jack a country of 200 MILLION people through violence and risking innocent people's lives. 98% of the 200 Million people didn't vote for the Taliban Khan.....does he have a right to kidnap the entire state over 1% of votes out of 200 MILLION people?

When did I insult you or others?

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I can;t post links yet, so just google PTI Imran Khan speech Zaman Park 11 Aug 2014. there's a vid on Awaztoday
Also: Insaf: pti chairman imran khans statement on pat joining


2) which 10 seat deal? Do you even read my posts? There was a 4 seat demand long ago.
Insaf : -pti had never sent any proposal of 10 halqas

3)I showed you a video, I showed you articles, you don't believe them, still:



Imran Khan (Official PTI PAGE)

19 Important points for KPK,
1- land record is being computerized.
2- Thana culture is being changed from police station.
3- FIR can be lodged through email and phone.
4- 11,000 villages to be developed.
5- 10 small hydro power projects to be developed.
6- Mobile courts announced for province.
7- Rs 100 million to be used over 57 projects of sports, culture and tourism
8- Special funds for Kelash Valley minirities announced.
9- Rs 1.27 billion to be alloted for environment protection, trees and etc.
10-157 projects for roads to be made by Rs 10 billions.
11-Mass transit system for Peshawar planned.
12-Subsidy of Rs. 2 billion for wheat.
13-Pension is increased to minimum 5000 Rs from Rs 3000.
14-Clean water projects to be completed.
15-Peshawar to be made as city of flowers.
16-Green Peshawar project announced for Rs 1 billion.
17-Traffic projects to be completed in the current year.
18- Peshawar Uplift project announced for Rs 4 billion.
19-Welfare projects for special persons, beggars, education institutes, women and kids announced!

Edit: another list of PTI Acheivements
Online FIR System started by PTI government is working actively in KPK.

There was a big security lapse at Dera Ismail Khan which created bad impact on PTI KPK government’s overall reputation but to fight such issues, government has started supplying modern weaponry and ammunition to the police of police stations.

With that, PTI has also decided to form its own Intelligence Wing which is going to work actively against all terrorist activities and going to tackle foreign agencies.

Mobile Court is also one of the biggest achievements in the province. The motive of PTI was to provide fast justice, and it is wonderful idea upon which it has worked. The French report on Mobile Courts is amazing in KPK.

Imran Khan on his visit to Swat, inaugurated two Mother-Child Health Care hospitals in the city and also inspected the progress work of on-going development of Hydro Electricity Power Plant Swat.

Nearly 300 small Hydro Power plants are to be built in the province during 2013-2015.

PTI and JI decided to add the Holy Qurans verses related to Jihad in the syllabus which were taken out of course during ANP regime.

Rescue 1122 has also been established in KPK during these 90 days.

Emergency was declared in KPK hospitals to tackle Dengue and KPK’s health sector successfully tackled Dengue by discharging 473 patients after complete recovery in short period of time.

For Greenery in KPK, 8 million new plants target has been set by the government. The plants are to be planted in arid lands of the province.

The Sheesha smoking has been completely banned in the province and CM Khattak has ordered to clean the province from graffiti, wall chalking and posters on walls.

World’s biggest software company “Microsoft” has agreed to provide E-Government to KPK government.

The Anti-Polio Drive which was badly damaged and affected by the terrorist activities in the province is to be resumed

A new Modern city is to be built between Islamabad and Peshawar Motorway near Colonel Sher Khan Interchange. This will be a model city.

All The Government officers must have declared their assets till the deadline of 30th August set by CM Khattak of KPK. The ones, who did not, are going back to home.

A Home Economics Girls College has started working under Swat University in Saidu Sharif.

KPK government is all set to remove encroachments near rivers and streams. KPK government has also decided to use biometric attendance system in educational institutions for its improvement and development.

Government will also use Fingerprint Electronic Voting System for Vote casting in Local Government Elections KPK. Mobile Van Health Service has been started in Swabi.

Google: PTI achievements KPK

4)Because the government is becoming a monarchy, the elections were rigged and the government murdered 14 people before and continues to block entire cites, taking away people's right to peaceful protest and free movement.

Thank you for agreeing with me. I am just using some basic common sense here. You know, if he does the march and nothing comes out, his political future is dead. If he's a little smart, he can gain more votes by coming on TV, saying that he's decided NOT to do the march in PUBLIC's BEST interest. He can blame the gov't as he's used to for everything and that's fine. People will look at him as someone who cares for them and they would understand he knows how and when to bend his rules for people's safety. The extreme Taliban style only results in dead bodies, whether its a suicide bomb blast in Pakistan or it's a long march to capture the government through force. Nothing good has ever come out of violence and threats.

Btw, your military is NOT going to support him. That's for sure. The military has learned about the devastating consequences of supporting violence against the democracy. This here, may end up breaking your country, literally. So be wise please
Which democracy? You mean the Sharif Family?
 
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You guys have been busted and kicked in your nuts for about a gazillion times already for asking this stupid question, but you nut cases won't shy of repeating this old mantra over and over again.

3) Show me what he's done in KPK (projects, investments, benefits)


Here: First Year 2013/14: Federal vs Punjab vs KP vs Sindh vs Balochistan
https://defence.pk/threads/first-ye...-vs-sindh-vs-balochistan.316433/#post-5738972
Though its 3 months old article, but should be enough to shut you up.

For the sake of heaven, please do some research yourself about what is being done in KPK before opening your mouth like this. If you are not aware of something then don't consider that nothing actually happened about it. The world my friend, doesn't revolve around you, you know?

Now keep bashing PTI, and keep your mouth shut about KPK performance if you have any tiny bit of sense and shame left in you.
 
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You guys have been busted and kicked in your nuts about a gazillion times for asking this stupid question, but you nut cases won't shy of repeating this old mantra over and over again.



Here: First Year 2013/14: Federal vs Punjab vs KP vs Sindh vs Balochistan
Though its 3 months old article, but should be enough to shut you up.

For the sake of heaven, please do some research yourself about what is being done in KPK before opening your mouth like this. If you are not aware of something then don't consider that nothing actually happened about it. The world my friend, doesn't revolve around you, you know?

Now keep bashing PTI, and keep your mouth shut about KPK performance if you have any tiny bit of sense and shame left in you.

Also found a video from ARY but I can't post links yet EDIT: I can embed videos though :D

This american is busy with bashing PTI, meanwhile in USA:
Article from BBC:

Police in the US state of Missouri say they have arrested 32 people as calm returned after a night of rioting.

Unrest broke out on Sunday over the killing of an unarmed black teenager by a police officer in Ferguson.

People looted shops, vandalised cars and stores, and set a building alight as police tried to block off access to several areas of the city.

Police say Michael Brown, 18, was shot on Saturday afternoon in the mainly black suburb of St Louis.

He was shot several times after a struggle in a police car, they said.

On Monday, dozens of residents marched through the streets demanding justice.

As residents began the task of cleaning up, some said they believed the violence was not over.

'Fighting back'
DeAndre Smith, 30, of Ferguson told the St Louis Post-Dispatch that the rioting reflected a sense of injustice in the community.

"I don't think it's over honestly," he said. "I just think they got a taste of what fighting back means."

St Louis County police say the FBI has now taken over the investigation into Mr Brown's death.

The rioting erupted late on Sunday after thousands of people attended a candlelight vigil for the slain man.

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Shops and other businesses in Ferguson were looted and vandalised late on Sunday
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Mourners paid their respects at the spot where Michael Brown was killed on Sunday
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Ferguson police officers try to calm down a crowd near the scene of the shooting on Saturday
County Police Chief Jon Belmar said the shooting occurred after the officer encountered two men, including Mr Brown, on a street in Ferguson.

Mr Belmar said one of the men pushed the officer back into his squad car and a struggle began.

'Outrage'
At least one shot was fired from the officer's gun inside the police car, Mr Belmar said.

But authorities say they are still trying to clarify exactly what happened inside the vehicle.

The officer involved has been with the Ferguson police department for six years, and has been placed on paid administrative leave, Mr Belmar said.

Mayor James Knowles said he understood that people "want to vent their frustrations. We understand they want to speak out", but he added: "We're going to obviously try to urge calm."

Mr Brown's mother, Lesley McSpadden, said her son had graduated from high school and planned to go to a local college.

The killing has drawn comparisons by some civil rights leaders with the 2012 killing of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin by a Florida neighbourhood watch organiser who was acquitted of murder charges.

"We're outraged because yet again a young African-American man has been killed by law enforcement," said John Gaskin, of the civil rights group NAACP.

Shit happens everywhere, doesn't matter whether its Pakistan or "the Land of The Free", people tend to fight and kill.
 
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You guys have been busted and kicked in your nuts for about a gazillion times already for asking this stupid question, but you nut cases won't shy of repeating this old mantra over and over again.

Here: First Year 2013/14: Federal vs Punjab vs KP vs Sindh vs Balochistan
Though its 3 months old article, but should be enough to shut you up.

For the sake of heaven, please do some research yourself about what is being done in KPK before opening your mouth like this. If you are not aware of something then don't consider that nothing actually happened about it. The world my friend, doesn't revolve around you, you know?

Now keep bashing PTI, and keep your mouth shut about KPK performance if you have any tiny bit of sense and shame left in you.

I am not bashing PTI or its terrorist agenda to get people killed so a greedy person who otherwise has NO chance of ever becoming a PM can become something. I've done my research, I've also see Peshawar not too long ago when I visited the area being designated for the Silk Highway. The place is and will be a shi*t hole until some real leaders come in and truthfully work.
The Frontier / KPK was ranked the top two most corrupted states within Pakistan. Not to mention it is also a Taliban strong hold and that's why the Taliban Khan is always "willing to discuss peace" with the Talibans, as many of their relatives are his supporters.
If this guys wasn't risking innocent people in this dangerous game and an entire country, I wouldn't be writing about it. This is the most selfish thing I've ever seen, for less than 10% of the voting power, you want to abuse the other 90% voters that rejected you???
Plus, the paper projects are everywhere. Show me the projects that actually do something for the people. Keep in mind, I know the progress (which is near to 0).
You guys are the most inhumane bunch I've ever seen. To put a pathological liar in the power, you've become a party of Chronological liars. You are lying about elections, lying about his peaceful intentions that JUST TODAY again said, take revenge from the Shariff's if anything happened to me. That today AGAIN said that the March wouldn't stop unless the PM resigns. Who the fu*ck is this Taliban Khan IK to blackmail and threaten a democratically elected government that has support from 90% more voters than this idiot does? And those 10% are idiots like some on here that are supporting a liar with becoming liars. How is that fair?
DEMOCRACY is MAJORITY RULES. IF you don't have majority, go do things to BUILD a majority. Don't take away existing majority's elected officials on gun point, via threats, violence and calls to seize the capital of a country. How could you put so much at risk and so many lives at risk? These Taliban type politicians need psychiatrists to teach them sanity!
 
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MQM playing her classic role, as expected....
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