Imran Khan Toofani Jalsay | Storm moving towards Islamabad | Why these cities? Signals from India?

[WotTen]

Without the establishment, pakistani public will seek peace and trade with India. Just like Bangladesh.

Its funny how pakistani public "knows" India's "evil act" in kashmir even when there are no pakistani reporters in kashmir nor have they ever visited kashmir.

pakistanis know what the establishment tells them.

Same as what the Chinese govt. tells its citizens.

Indian atrocities in Kashmir have been confirmed by the UN. Clueless Indians only know what their media tells them. How interesting that free media access is not allowed in Kashmir?

Which is to say there is not enough credible evidence to try in in open court.

No, which is to say that the sources cannot be revealed in public but only in a closed trial. This is standard procedure in terrorism trials across the world.

Of course, in India, the establishment doesn't bother with trials. They just kill any child in Kashmir, or sabotage their chief's helicopter to crash.

The same reason kashmiri hindus abandoned their home and land. "evil acts" or did you forget ?

The same reason millions of Hindus left pakistan for India.

But surprisingly no such exodus took place from kashmir.

Hindu exodus from Pakistan (and Muslim exodus from India) was after Partition. The status of Kashmir is in contest so there is no reason for Muslims to leave Kashmir. The occupying army should leave.

WE are on record saying we will do it again if needed.

You are also on record as producing lots of movies. If you guys want to have tea, just give us a friendly ring. No need to lose two planes and humiliate yourselves.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Allah karay in gadaroon aur samraaj se hamesha kay liye Pakistan ki jaan chhot jaye

 

[LeGenD]

@WotTen

Title of the thread should match title of the source of information it is based on. I have corrected this error in your opening post.

You are allowed to highlight points of interest from the source in your post on the other hand. I did not edit your statements in your post, therefore.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

I genuinely don't know - and I just want to make one point clear no one "likes" India
It's just some are less hardcore than others

Nothing to do with immigrant cause karachites very much dislike India

Its because Lahore and Amritsar have an unbreakable bond. They speak same dialect and even Amritsar was Muslim majority before 1947.

Ambarsariya mundiya vi kachiya kaliyan na torrrrrrrr

Same reason why Quetta and Kandahar's bond won't ever be broken due to blood and historical reasons.

Pa Kandahar Jan Waya Salaam Zamaaaa

 

[WotTen]

Religious difference is the fundamental reason for social tension in the subcontinent. This has been so for a millennia.

That's not true. Separatist movements are based on ethnicity, ideology, and religion.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Its because Lahore and Amritsar have an unbreakable bond. They speak same dialect and even Amritsar was Muslim majority before 1947.

Ambarsariya mundiya vi kachiya kaliyan na torrrrrrrr

Same reason why Quetta and Kandahar's bond won't ever be broken due to blood and historical reasons.

Pa Kandahar Jan Waya Salaam Zamaaaa

we hate every Indian equally - f em
and people trying to make us look bad - You know when everyone in Pakistan starts demanding hard actions against Baloch insurgent for example
the same city/class try to leash in the anger - no one says unbreakable bond with Baluchistan than? but now everyone is trying to test our loyalty by making us sound like "unbreakable" bond morons

Kandaharis didnt commit genocide on Queeta people - so wrong example to start with

 

[Mirzali Khan]

we hate every Indian equally - f em

lol

and people trying to make us look bad

How?

You know when everyone in Pakistan starts demanding hard actions against Baloch insurgent for example
the same city/class try to leash in the anger

Also throw Karachi in there too. Quetta and Karachi have a huge influx of anti Pakistani elements. Its like a pipeline.

o one says unbreakable bond with Baluchistan than?

There have been BLA/BRA attacks from Iran.

but now everyone is trying to test our loyalty by making us sound like "unbreakable" bond morons

Its not about "loyalty" its about reality. Why were Taliban, who were from Kandahar, shifted to Quetta? Why are TTP being given refuge in Loya Paktia? Why is BLA hiding in Irani and Afghan Balochistan. These borders just divide people of the same faith, ethnicity, and linguistics. Hence, people will have sympathizers from the other side.

 

[Faqirze]

Diaspora Afghans know very well about Hindutva so the religious Pashtuns don't like them. But, they all hate Pakistan. Also they are allergic to Akhand Bharat concept.

Most Afghans don't care about India in general considering they don't have much contact or anything in common with them, but bollytrash is quite popular within Afghans.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

by your logic KPK should be dying to join Afghanistan, punjab india, Bangldesh with WB, Afghanistan should practically be broken into multiple pieces with this logic
forget that -Iranian Azeris with Azerbaijan , Kuwaitis with Iraqis, gulf tribes scattered around gulf
But none of em are
on and on - you know what I mean

Having sympathy doesn't necessarily equate to wanting to join. It’s the reason why millions of Afghans live in Pashtun majority areas. It’s why Afghan tribes shelter TTP. And it’s also the reason why BLA has a base in Afg and Iran

 

[Wood]

That's not true. Separatist movements are based on ethnicity, ideology, and religion.

I was originally referring to tension between India and Pakistan. Religious difference is indeed the fundamental difference.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Most Afghans don't care about India in general considering they don't have much contact or anything in common with them, but bollytrash is quite popular within Afghans.

It’s Kabulis. Bollywood is also popular in Iran and Turkey as well.

 

[PakSarZameen47]

lol

How?

Also throw Karachi in there too. Quetta and Karachi have a huge influx of anti Pakistani elements. Its like a pipeline.


There have been BLA/BRA attacks from Iran.


Its not about "loyalty" its about reality. Why were Taliban, who were from Kandahar, shifted to Quetta? Why are TTP being given refuge in Loya Paktia? Why is BLA hiding in Irani and Afghan Balochistan. These borders just divide people of the same faith, ethnicity, and linguistics. Hence, people will have sympathizers from the other side.

Come on , Pakistan is not unnatural please. Just had bad leadership. Things can change when politicians unite people rather than divide. For 70 years all political parties have played division cards but Pakistan survived qgaisnt all odds. Its creation was amiravle, its survival has been a miracle. In fact every day that passes where Pakistan is a a miracle given the neighborhood, enemies both local and international againt Pakistan.

That's why it's a fact that Pakistan is here to survive and to fulfil a role. No other country was made like Pakistan, all other countries were made in name of nationalism unlike Pakistan.

We have a leader that unites people, imagine how far Pakistan will go...

 

[ghazi52]

.,.,.,
At present, both the system and the ideology are fighting for their survival in Pakistani politics.
If the current system wins, the nation will lose And if the ideology wins, then after seventy five years a new sun will rise in the state, a new dawn will begin and Insha'Allah ! We will see....

 

[JohnWick]

Your prime minister says that you’re a beggar. Get over it.

Who beg for shaukat Khanum ?
100 rupees for jalsa ?

 

[WotTen]

It’s Kabulis. Bollywood is also popular in Iran and Turkey as well.

Pakistani TV dramas used to be excellent and very popular in India but the industry was ruined by Zia. We still have top class music talent but nothing good in film or drama any more. Worse, Pakistani films and TV dramas chase Indian patterns to promote vulgarity and non-traditional family values as the norm. Like most Pakistani illiberals, they are ashamed of Pakistani culture and desperately try to mimic the West.

One of my hopes from PTI was that they, being expat heavy and world savvy, would appreciate the importance of global media to project Pakistan's narrative. I expected a heavily subsidized and aggressively promoted national campaign to nurture media talent and to promote Pakistani media in foreign countries, especially Muslim countries.

Unfortunately, as in most other areas, PTI turned out to be incompetent in this area too. These people really can't seem to do anything other than organize jalsas and make fiery speeches.