IHS Janes | China, Pakistan set for submarine deal by end of year.

[Ayush]

congrats

 

[Jf Thunder]

congrats

NOT CONGRATS, i wanted a nuclear sub

 

[slapshot]

what i meant to say was is it nuclear or conventional diesel powered?

This is from original description of few lines in first post 'S20' or Yuan-class diesel-electric submarine
Which part of it you don't under stand ?

 

[Jf Thunder]

This is from original description of few lines in first post 'S20' or Yuan-class diesel-electric submarine
Which part of it you don't under stand ?

oh sorry, i didnt read that, well then if thats the case, boooooo

 

[alimobin memon]

S20 is option for AIP upgrade so Even if we buy S20 it has option for All the technologies not present from Yuan Class.

At IDEX-2013, China revealed a scaled-down version of Type 041 submarine designated as S20, specially intended for export. The main difference between S20 and Type 041 is that the AIP system on the original Type 041 is deleted, but can be available and easily integrated due to modular design of S20, if potential customers choose to purchase AIP systems separately. Due to its modular design, a variety of sensors and weapons can also be easily adopted up on customers' requests.
Its obvious Pakistan Navy will buy AIP Submarine else it wont be enough. Buying Yuan or S20 is no issue when Sensors and advance system can be incorporated in S20. If budgest is issue PN migh buy S20 and upgrade them in AIP later.

 

[rockstar08]

They are keeping it tight deliberately. The sub we will buy is still in development. AIP and Pumpjet are two key features.

@Aeronaut what is pumpjet ?

 

[SrNair]

Congratulations.Good for PN

 

[hussain0216]

Isnt conversion to AIP a big deal, dosent the sub have to effectivley be cut in half to install AIP

 

[makaveli]

6 AIP Yuan Type 41 submarine
3 AIP Agosta 90B submarine
2 Agosta 70 submarine
1 Future Nuclear submarine

 

[aliaselin]

the so called Qing will be developed to SSG later

 

[Gryphon]

China, Pakistan set for submarine deal by end of year, say officials

Farhan Bokhari, Islamabad - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
02 February 2014

Pakistan's submarine fleet currently comprises Agosta 90B boats (second-of-class Saad is pictured) and ageing Agosta 70 vessels. Source: DCNS

Pakistan could sign a deal to buy up to six submarines from China before the end of 2014, senior Pakistani government officials have told IHS Jane's .

A Pakistani government minister revealed in March 2011 that China had offered to sell up to six submarines to Pakistan although he did not specify details of the boats on offer. Western officials in Islamabad suggest that China's subsequent international marketing of the 'S20' or Yuan-class diesel-electric submarine (SSK) suggests it could be a potential option for Pakistan.

A senior Pakistani government official told IHS Jane's that "the technical details are almost done. The present discussions are mainly about the financing details". A second Pakistani government official confirmed that "the contract is in an advanced stage and discussions will not linger on for too long. Realistically, we should have a deal by end 2014".

The submarine contract would further cement China's rapidly growing role as the main supplier of military hardware to Pakistan's armed forces and fill an important gap in Pakistan Navy (PN) capabilities. The PN is known to operate five French submarines: three Agosta 90B (Khalid-class) submarines purchased in the 1990s and two ageing Agosta 70 (Hashmat-class) boats dating from the late 1970s. In 2009, the PN sought to purchase three German-built Type 214 submarines, but the plan was put on hold due to costs that at the time were reported to be in excess of USD2 billion.

Recent Sino-Pakistan contracts of potential interest to Islamabad's strategic interests include China's agreement to provide two large civil nuclear reactors to be based close to Karachi. According to Pakistani officials China's Eximbank agreed to extend a USD6.5 billion loan for the two reactors.

Additionally, the Sino-Pakistani-built JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft is reportedly the subject of talks between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia: a potential deal that Western officials said would not be discussed without Beijing's explicit consent.

COMMENT
A Sino-Pakistan submarine contract will be closely watched by Western officials for any signs that may suggest progression towards nuclear-powered boats. Pakistan's defence planners consider the absence of such a platform - which they would eventually want to see armed with submarine-launched nuclear ballistic missiles - as major disadvantage in a potential conflict with India.

However, Western officials believe China will hesitate to extend such advanced technology to Pakistan given the potential for a harsh reaction from the United States and its allies.

China's international marketing of the 'S20' or Yuan-class SSK suggests it could be a potential option for Pakistan. (Robert Foster)

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China, Pakistan set for submarine deal by end of year, say officials - IHS Jane's 360

 

[Excelias]

Good for pakistan and everyone else

 

[alimobin memon]

Isnt conversion to AIP a big deal, dosent the sub have to effectivley be cut in half to install AIP

Yes it is but S20 is Same in length as Yuan but has no AIP if Customer wants AIP and sensor systems from Yuan they can be installed easily said by Chinese person in IDEX 2013

 

[porris]

i am not an xpert in defence related things or in weaponery expecially weapons used in Navy but i have an idea of tarpedo if any one can tell can a submarine fire a tarpedo during staying at bottom in sea to its targed like a SAM
I did not know how to start a new thread so i published this in this thread so execuse me for this mistake my idea is that if we are making tarpedo at home can we convert into it

 

[Areesh]

Isnt conversion to AIP a big deal, dosent the sub have to effectivley be cut in half to install AIP

Nope. PNS Khalid was fitted with AIP later.