If India and Pakistan Come to Nuclear Blows, Blame U.S.: Mishra

[Jango]

i was responding to Areesh in that post

and you asked how we could do that and i simply responded with how we could jam or destroy enemy radar why are you getting all worked up about it?

re read your posts , you clearly said that your jaguars and phalcons can jam radars,,,,,,and HARM missiles are not used for jamming, thier sole purpose is to destroy radars.

i am getting worked up about it because you people think that you have all the capabilities in the world when the truth is you dont even have the machinery you are talking about in your arsenal.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

re read your posts , you clearly said that your jaguars and phalcons can jam radars,,,,,,and HARM missiles are not used for jamming, thier sole purpose is to destroy radars.

i am getting worked up about it because you people think that you have all the capabilities in the world when the truth is you dont even have the machinery you are talking about in your arsenal.

any AF has ability to jam radar even yours does otherwise they are fighting in WW2 conditions Jaguars can very much jam radar see its ECM and EW suite information, every fighter aircraft bro has EW suite that jams radar, i never said we had HARM missiles i said we had anti radiation missiles our anti radiation missiles are Russian ones not american ones

i never said we had all the capabilities in the world we are no superpower yet, we aren't the worlds best military power and can do whatever the hell we want and get away with it without getting in trouble i am just saying we have capability to conduct surgical strike our chiefs have said this several times you are completely misunderstanding me like Galaxy said i am right about what i am saying its just upto gov't any major military power like yours and ours has surgical strike capability bro we might not have stealth choppers or fancy stealth UAV's and whatnot but the surgical strike capability is very much there PV Naik himself said this after OBL raid, Deepak Kapoor was ranting on about this as well

 

[Jango]

i didn't bring up cold start bro.... do yourself a favor go see what cold start is and find out what surgical strike means surgical strike is not a full blown war well you asked how we could conduct surgical strikes i simply answered your question why you mad bro?

then why did you mention strike corps and BSF when you were talking about surgical strikes?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

These are the last things that Pakistani members would be creating. You waste all your time in threatening, warning and pointing all your missiles and weapons at us while some countries just walk into your other side of the borders, do their job, laugh about it and leave you red-faced almost regularly.

Isnt it india tht has like 90% of its military assets n forces aimed at Pakistan?
Talks abt deep strikes BS?Limited nuclear war LMAO? Cold war... rofl

 

[DarK-LorD]

Isnt it india tht has like 90% of its military assets n forces aimed at Pakistan?
Talks abt deep strikes BS?Limited nuclear war LMAO? Cold war... rofl

How can 90% be against Pakistan when we have 300,000 Soldiers in China border?

 

[Jango]

any AF has ability to jam radar even yours does otherwise they are fighting in WW2 conditions Jaguars can very much jam radar see its ECM and EW suite information, every fighter aircraft bro has EW suite that jams radar, i never said we had HARM missiles i said we had anti radiation missiles our anti radiation missiles are Russian ones not american ones

i never said we had all the capabilities in the world we are no superpower yet, we aren't the worlds best military power and can do whatever the hell we want and get away with it without getting in trouble i am just saying we have capability to conduct surgical strike our chiefs have said this several times you are completely misunderstanding me like Galaxy said i am right about what i am saying its just upto gov't any major military power like yours and ours has surgical strike capability bro we might not have stealth choppers or fancy stealth UAV's and whatnot but the surgical strike capability is very much there PV Naik himself said this after OBL raid, Deepak Kapoor was ranting on about this as well

you people may have the ability for a surgical strike, but after getting to the target, your men wont get back to india, thats my guarantee.

US has the ' akrapan' to come into pakistan, and no country in the world can afford to destroy a US helo , we knew about it, didnt respond, what makes you lot think that india will get the same response?....PV naik can rant as long as he wants too, but you cant change the fact, as DG ISI said, we have counter measures for incursion from eastern border.

 

[Jango]

How can 90% be against Pakistan when we have 300,000 Soldiers in China border?

now mention the amount of people on pakistani border

 

[LiberalAtheist]

then why did you mention strike corps and BSF when you were talking about surgical strikes?

for gods sakes ^___________________________^

surgical strike: an attack (usually without prior warning) intended to deal only with a specific target

BSF to protect our borders from pak retaliation and strike corps to retaliate as well (if you guys retaliate) you brought these issues up and i rebutted them don't get mad when i rebut your statements

 

[LiberalAtheist]

you people may have the ability for a surgical strike, but after getting to the target, your men wont get back to india, thats my guarantee.

US has the ' akrapan' to come into pakistan, and no country in the world can afford to destroy a US helo , we knew about it, didnt respond, what makes you lot think that india will get the same response?....PV naik can rant as long as he wants too, but you cant change the fact, as DG ISI said, we have counter measures for incursion from eastern border.

and you think we don't have counter strikes as well? again now your just jumping the gun you and i both know that any pak army incursion into our territory would just be pushed back and then we would launch strikes back as well going even deeper into your territory stop bringing up war talk we are talking about quick swift surgical strikes not war fronts

you are now just making stuff up from the reaction your gov't and people gave there was no way you know about OBL raid until after it was over

 

[Jango]

for gods sakes ^___________________________^

surgical strike: an attack (usually without prior warning) intended to deal only with a specific target

BSF to protect our borders from pak retaliation and strike corps to retaliate as well (if you guys retaliate) you brought these issues up and i rebutted them don't get mad when i rebut your statements

strike corps are used to strike an offensive against the enemy, hence starting a war, sirgical strike in pakistan will get a response from us, for that you should have a holding corps or a pivot corps, but you mention strike corps, effectively signalling the intention of initiating a war.

Now understand what i have said carefully and you will get the answer.

 

[Jango]

and you think we don't have counter strikes as well? again now your just jumping the gun you and i both know that any pak army incursion into our territory would just be pushed back and then we would launch strikes back as well going even deeper into your territory stop bringing up war talk we are talking about quick swift surgical strikes not war fronts

you are now just making stuff up from the reaction your gov't and people gave there was no way you know about OBL raid until after it was over

how the hell will you counter strike if we shoot down a indian heli in pakistan which was going for surgical strike???......we shot down the heli in pakistani territory, effectively a violation of international law, then it will be the choice of india to retaliate to the shooting , either stay silent, or send an evac team in.

And we did get to know that the US was in, it is an hour from abbottabad to border, we knew the yanks were there. Do you think the sepoy at the PMA gate wont report that helis are in a compund and explosions are taking place?...i know some people in military who have confirmed that we did know about presence of someone, after they got near peshawar AFB.

 

[Jango]

and you think we don't have counter strikes as well? again now your just jumping the gun you and i both know that any pak army incursion into our territory would just be pushed back and then we would launch strikes back as well going even deeper into your territory stop bringing up war talk we are talking about quick swift surgical strikes not war fronts

you are now just making stuff up from the reaction your gov't and people gave there was no way you know about OBL raid until after it was over

how the hell will you counter strike if we shoot down a indian heli in pakistan which was going for surgical strike???......we shot down the heli in pakistani territory, effectively a violation of international law, then it will be the choice of india to retaliate to the shooting , either stay silent, or send an evac team in.

And we did get to know that the US was in, it is an hour from abbottabad to border, we knew the yanks were there. Do you think the sepoy at the PMA gate wont report that helis are in a compund and explosions are taking place?...i know some people in military who have confirmed that we did know about presence of someone, after they got near peshawar AFB.

 

[Rocky25]

how the hell will you counter strike if we shoot down a indian heli in pakistan which was going for surgical strike???......we shot down the heli in pakistani territory, effectively a violation of international law, then it will be the choice of india to retaliate to the shooting , either stay silent, or send an evac team in.

And we did get to know that the US was in, it is an hour from abbottabad to border, we knew the yanks were there. Do you think the sepoy at the PMA gate wont report that helis are in a compund and explosions are taking place?...i know some people in military who have confirmed that we did know about presence of someone, after they got near peshawar AFB.

Buddy, The ultimate motive of surgical strike is to hit the terrorist base and kill the terrorists, You can do it with spy working inside Pakistan who looks same like the locals or hitting it with a stripped down smuggled missile fired from Pak terrirory or from Arabian sea. It does not mean a helicopter alone. It is foolish to send a team without credible escape plan.

If the navy cheif and army cheif are boasting that they have capability then these things should have taken into account. I am sure that the cheif's are not that dumb to miss these points.

As already said by others... the political will is most important than anything else and dont worry it will NOT happen till 2014... UPA are busy with covering up their corruption to concentrate on Terrorist camps.

 

[Jango]

Buddy, The ultimate motive of surgical strike is to hit the terrorist base and kill the terrorists, You can do it with spy working inside Pakistan who looks same like the locals or hitting it with a stripped down smuggled missile fired from Pak terrirory or from Arabian sea. It does not mean a helicopter alone. It is foolish to send a team without credible escape plan.

If the navy cheif and army cheif are boasting that they have capability then these things should have taken into account. I am sure that the cheif's are not that dumb to miss these points.

As already said by others... the political will is most important than anything else and dont worry it will NOT happen till 2014... UPA are busy with covering up their corruption to concentrate on Terrorist camps.

well then good luck with the methods you described!

 

[LiberalAtheist]

strike corps are used to strike an offensive against the enemy, hence starting a war, sirgical strike in pakistan will get a response from us, for that you should have a holding corps or a pivot corps, but you mention strike corps, effectively signalling the intention of initiating a war.

Now understand what i have said carefully and you will get the answer.

how the hell will you counter strike if we shoot down a indian heli in pakistan which was going for surgical strike???......we shot down the heli in pakistani territory, effectively a violation of international law, then it will be the choice of india to retaliate to the shooting , either stay silent, or send an evac team in.

And we did get to know that the US was in, it is an hour from abbottabad to border, we knew the yanks were there. Do you think the sepoy at the PMA gate wont report that helis are in a compund and explosions are taking place?...i know some people in military who have confirmed that we did know about presence of someone, after they got near peshawar AFB.

how the hell will you counter strike if we shoot down a indian heli in pakistan which was going for surgical strike???......we shot down the heli in pakistani territory, effectively a violation of international law, then it will be the choice of india to retaliate to the shooting , either stay silent, or send an evac team in.

And we did get to know that the US was in, it is an hour from abbottabad to border, we knew the yanks were there. Do you think the sepoy at the PMA gate wont report that helis are in a compund and explosions are taking place?...i know some people in military who have confirmed that we did know about presence of someone, after they got near peshawar AFB.

you think we wont retaliate when Pakistani troops enter our territory come on now you and i both know the answer to that

you think we would just send 1 helicopter with a MARCO team with no support? every country learned from the mistakes of operation eagle claw the americans the most

yet Zardari himself said Pakistan did not have anything to do with the operation? if you want to discuss obl raid discuss it on a diff thread get back to topic my point is India if needed can conduct surgical strikes its just up to the political leadership whether to conduct them or not adding on if Pakistan retaliates it will only be futile there is no way in hell a army of 700,000 can overpower 5 million soldiers Indian army territorial army home guard and para military forces