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IDEAS 2014 - 8th International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (1 - 4 Dec 2014)

Have some respect. These are the common Pakistanis for whom our Jawans give their life. They have as much right to sit there as any burger who doesnt even live here. Im sorry if their traditional dress has offended you. Not to forget it is very likely they are jawans themselves and dont want to get their uniforms dirty.

Keep this burger sh-it where you live. Traditional dress or not----no loose fitting dress needs to be close to a military vehicle and boots be worn at all times.

This has nothing to do with jawans giving their lives----but it has everything to do with being callous---careless---don't give a sh-it kind of mindset.
 
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Hi,

What the fcuk these guys are doing in their civilian shalwar kameez and their shoes off inside a military vehicle.

What the fcuk has happened to my military?
old pics (before the show) show preperation... probably civilian stuff..
 
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Traditional dress or not----no loose fitting dress needs to be close to a military vehicle and boots be worn at all times.

And tell me how many Pakistani military bases have you visited and how much experience do you have of interacting with military vehicles? I come from a military family and have visited many depots. This is the norm. Do you want them to dress nicely when the exhibition isn't even bloody open just so some wanker doesnt get offended by their dress which has obviously become dirty due to their job requirement.
 
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He is right, there should have been proper uniform for the people working in IDEAS EXPO. Presently they look like a bunch of rag tag cleaners.

Hi,

Thank you---you put it the right context. Military is all about uniform and uniformity---these guys indeed look like a group of people picked up from the street corner.

This is a world class display and anyone and everyone working there must have some kind of a standard uniform with boots---. And as they are dealing with machines----then shirt and pant.
 
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And tell me how many Pakistani military bases have you visited and how much experience do you have of interacting with military vehicles? I come from a military family and have visited many depots. This is the norm. Do you want them to dress nicely when the exhibition isn't even bloody open just so some wanker doesnt get offended by their dress which has obviously become dirty due to their job requirement.

Hi,

From what I remember eon ago---no one entered the area with machine in a shalwar kameez----all machine areas were restricted for loose fitting clothes----. Indeed the standards of the military have fallen on their faces.

How about DHOTI---do they come in their dhotis as well----maybe that will be an accepted part of the uniform.

Hey---I have a suggestion----why don't we have our air force pilots and navy personale start using DHOTIS and shalwar kameez at work.
 
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Indeed the standards of the military have fallen on their faces.

What part of cleaning duty did you not understand? Its not about appearances in PA, its about practicality. Its not affordable to waste a uniform due to cleaning duties, the grease stains are hard to remove etc. While personnel in the armoured corps have special black colored uniforms for working with tanks, it is not unusual to have soldiers in civies doing cleaning duties.
 
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Looks like they are prepping the vehicle for display.


Hi,

What the fcuk these guys are doing in their civilian shalwar kameez and their shoes off inside a military vehicle.

What the fcuk has happened to my military?
 
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IDEAS 2014 Exhibition set to blow you away

By Our Correspondent

Pakistani officials make final preparations on the exhibition floor for the International Defence Exhibition and seminar (IDEAS) in Karachi on November 29, 2014. PHOTO: AFP

KARACHI: In what is expected to be one of the most anticipated and sought-after events in Pakistan this year, the International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (IDEAS) 2014 is set to kick off this Monday. Additionally, first-time participant Russia will also be contributing to the fair.

Around 333 defence equipment makers are coming to the eighth edition of IDEAS, including 77 Pakistani firms, said Defence Export Promotion Organisation (DEPO) Media Director Commodore Tahir Javed.

“Eighty eight delegations, including 30 headed by high level officials including defence ministers, joint chiefs and services chiefs, have confirmed participation,” he said in a news briefing ahead of the formal inauguration.

The four-day exhibition will take place side by side a seminar where military and civilian security experts will read papers focusing on terrorism related challenges faced by many countries.

“We are more than satisfied by the response from every participating region,” Commodore Javed said.

Pakistan will feature its usual heavy weaponry including Al-Khalid tank, JF Thunder fighter aircraft and a broad range of assault and communication equipment.

DEPO Director Coordination Brigadier Mazhar Mumtaz said the success of the exhibition should not be judged from the variety and kind of weapons and equipment put on sale by Pakistan. “Our purpose was to engage different countries and we have succeeded in doing that. As far as the equipment is concerned, the question remains who can compete on both quality and cost.”

While Pakistan already exports guns, ammunition, artillery and communication and surveillance devices, its heavy equipment including JF17 jets are also in demand.

“We are negotiating deals for JF Thunders with a few countries,” Mumtaz said.

Pressed to share details about the defence contracts, which have been secured up till now because of past exhibitions, he said that multiple deals have matured, some for as much as $10 million worth of equipment.

Published in The Express Tribune, November 30th, 2014.

IDEAS 2014 set to blow you away – The Express Tribune
 
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one bad a$$ truck, whats the name ?

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Hi,

Thank you---you put it the right context. Military is all about uniform and uniformity---they indeed look like a group of people picked up from the street corner.

This is a world class display and anyone and everyone working there must have some kind of a standard uniform with boots---. And as they are dealing with machines----then shirt and pant.

And Mr. Mastan, when were you even close to a real military? Your deep rooted sense of inferiority is showing again.
 
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