ICC Board approves changes to governance, competition and financial models

[Mav3rick]

actually the new rule allows bilateral tours without getting ICC involved.
The fairest of all will be ICC not to give money to any member country and ask them to generate on their own.
Currently poor boards are kind of subsidized by rich ones, which is why rich ones get powerful.

If this is allowed to happen then it will only be India, Pakistan, Australia & England that will play any cricket as these nations generate huge profits when they play each other while the profits are mediocre when these teams play BD, NZ, WI, UAE etc. and perhaps even SL.

 

[Sunny009]

Sometimes, having morals does make things difficult in the short run. However, in the long term, it will be beneficial. Besides, atleast Pakistan did something that Pakistanis can be proud of.......something that the whole world respects! How much respect would sellouts have any more?

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Firstly you its better if you hold off your judgment on what is good for cricketing world No body cares what PCB or Pakistanis vociferously thinkl be beneficial to world cricket when it doesn't attribute financially in the same tenor. When you have the clout or experience in furthering cricket both financially and organizationally you can come back and lecture us. Now all world sees is losers being sour grape.

 

[janon]

I wonder how that incident would relate to all the dug up cricket grounds/pitches and serious threats and attacks on international players in India.

Not sure what you are getting at here. Despite those localized incidents, international teams and players are flocking to India in droves to make a fortune, be it for tests or ODIs or T20s or IPL matches. Or are you suggesting that somehow those pitch digging incidents are related to the terrorist attack in lahore? If so, you have an active imagination.

 

[Mav3rick]

Firstly you its better if you hold off your judgment on what is good for cricketing world No body cares what PCB or Pakistanis vociferously thinkl be beneficial to world cricket when it doesn't attribute financially in the same tenor. When you have the clout or experience in furthering cricket both financially and organizationally you can come back and lecture us. Now all world sees is losers being sour grape.

The thing about greed is that it does not unite, it actually divides and this same greed will divide the 3 greediest boards.....when that eventuality happens, the greedy will lose and Cricket will survive

In the meantime, I firmly advise BCCI to include another clause in the ICC rules that all Indian matches will be held in India as otherwise India may not really be able to contribute even 'mediocrely'!!

Not sure what you are getting at here. Despite those localized incidents, international teams and players are flocking to India in droves to make a fortune, be it for tests or ODIs or T20s or IPL matches. Or are you suggesting that somehow those pitch digging incidents are related to the terrorist attack in lahore? If so, you have an active imagination.

I was not pointing to any relation, as there exists none. The point, intended to be put across, was that incidents against cricket have happened in both countries, while Pakistan has suffered, India has not. But all that can change in a matter of hours.

You are talking as if you've always been friend to us!

You should have supported the revamp and be with us in this crucial meeting while you had a chance. Now dont blame us if we ban Pakistan to play cricket in near future.

You are yet one of the 10 full members and only 1 of the 3 big. I hope you understand that at best, you are 33% of the 'big' and only 10% overall . And the moment your interests fall out of alignment with the other bigs, you will know your place in international cricket off the filed.....while you are already aware of your place on the field!

 

[Gautam]

You are yet one of the 10 full members and only 1 of the 3 big. I hope you understand that at best, you are 33% of the 'big' and only 10% overall . And the moment your interests fall out of alignment with the other bigs, you will know your place in international cricket off the filed.....while you are already aware of your place on the field!

Dude we are 80% overall. Money speaks my friend, money speaks.

The moment we feel that the other 2 are not aligned as per our interest, we will eliminate them too

Thats our international place off the field for ya.

And we are the current world champion on the field

 

[Mav3rick]

why dont you people try .. Gulli danda ?

We are thinking of trying the danda on our neighbourhood gulli!

 

[Sunny009]

The thing about greed is that it does not unite, it actually divides and this same greed will divide the 3 greediest boards.....when that eventuality happens, the greedy will lose and Cricket will survive

In the meantime, I firmly advise BCCI to include another clause in the ICC rules that all Indian matches will be held in India as otherwise India may not really be able to contribute even 'mediocrely'!!

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Well again with your condescension, you should stop judging other boards. I could always come up with how Pakistan been doing over the years. How Pakistan let down cricket with a terrorist attack on a visiting team and so on. But at the end of the day, its about how you are contributing to the cricket. Winning/Loosing are part of the game. At least our contribution is seen as positive by other boards since they want to play with us all the time (for most of them its their survival issue), even to the mighty Pakistan.

Stop making fool of yourself. PCB wanted an equal share in revenues. No body could be greedier than that. They want other boards to pay for their laziness. Thank god world cricket didn't let that happen. It would become a damn god socialist/ communist organization.

 

[Mav3rick]

Dude we are 80% overall. Money speaks my friend, money speaks.

The moment we feel that the other 2 are not aligned as per our interest, we will eliminate them too

Thats our international place off the field for ya.

I do not understand how India generates 80% of the finances, I mean is that not ridiculous? I have read that myself in articles but does that not strike you as strange that England & Australia, with their $$ advantage, still are a part of the 9 sides that generate only 20% of cricket revenues?? Besides, even if India does generate 80%, for argument's sake, can you tell me how much India generates when she plays Pakistan as opposed to England, SA, SL, NZ etc.?? Afterall, everything is about money, as you said, right?

And we are the current world champion on the field

As is apparent from the whitewash by the 7th ranked team, outside of India, and the test loss too!!

 

[Mav3rick]

Well again with your condescension, you should stop judging other boards. I could always come up with how Pakistan been doing over the years. How Pakistan let down cricket with a terrorist attack on a visiting team and so on. But at the end of the day, its about how you are contributing to the cricket. Winning/Loosing are part of the game. At least our contribution is seen as positive by other boards since they want to play with us all the time (for most of them its their survival issue), even to the mighty Pakistan.

It was our LEA that laid precious lives to protect those players and saved all those players. As the biggest target of terrorism, perhaps we should have been provided even more matches and international support, especially when Pakistan had offered security equivalent to the Prime Minister, to all visiting teams. But that's another topic.

England/Australian and Australian/New Zealand rivalry is bigger then anything India can offer except India/Pakistan matches. If you do not compare the matches that have NZ/BD and maybe SL/WI, perhaps all teams bring big shares. Finally, what is India without other teams?

Stop making fool of yourself. PCB wanted an equal share in revenues. No body could be greedier than that. They want other boards to pay for their laziness. Thank god world cricket didn't let that happen. It would become a damn god socialist/ communist organization.

Under the existing system, it was an equal share not only for the PCB but also for teams like Bangladesh.It was changed because you are the greedy one. despite being the richest of the cricketing boards, you still want more then you need. Precise definition of greedy!!

 

[Gautam]

I do not understand how India generates 80% of the finances, I mean is that not ridiculous? I have read that myself in articles but does that not strike you as strange that England & Australia, with their $$ advantage, still are a part of the 9 sides that generate only 20% of cricket revenues??

Dont you think that when all the newspapers agree that India do generate 80% of ICC revenue, they know better than you and me? Or you think that this is also a Hindu conspiracy?

Besides, even if India does generate 80%, for argument's sake, can you tell me how much India generates when she plays Pakistan as opposed to England, SA, SL, NZ etc.?? Afterall, everything is about money, as you said, right?

All these teams make more money when they play India as compared to when they play other teams. And you know it.

Imagine if we dont play in the world cup, from where ICC gonna get sponsors? Remember 2007 world cup? (If you remember, BCCI had also used this card before this revamp meeting)

As is apparent from the whitewash by the 7th ranked team, outside of India, and the test loss too!!

Does that negate the fact that we are world cup holders?

You are talking as if world cup winners should never lose any match! Heck, even we Indians dont expect our team to win all the matches. Looks like you have more expectations from team India than team Pakistan!

 

[Mav3rick]

Dont you think that when all the newspapers agree that India do generate 80% of ICC revenue, they know better than you and me? Or you think that this is also a Hindu conspiracy?

Newspapers are 'quoting' what BCCI stance is, I have not come across an article that has actually audited the income that each board generates. In any case, if India does indeed generate 80% of the revenues then she deserves a much larger share then any other nation, simple.

All these teams make more money when they play India as compared to when they play other teams. And you know it.

Imagine if we dont play in the world cup, from where ICC gonna get sponsors? Remember 2007 world cup? (If you remember, BCCI had also used this card before this revamp meeting)

A world cup without any of the front-line contender such as Pakistan, or Sri Lanka would not be the same either. And even though I remember WC '07, I do not know what you are referring to specifically. And ICC gets sponsors from all over the world, infact a US city has an official Shahid Afridi day.....you think that other nations do not bring in sponsors?

And most importantly, how would it fare in India for BCCI if India does not play a WC, for whatever reasons???

Does that negate the fact that we are world cup holders?

You are talking as if world cup winners should never lose any match! Heck, even we Indians dont expect our team to win all the matches. Looks like you have more expectations from team India than team Pakistan!

World Cup winners do not mean that you are the top team, or does it?? And you are correct, partially, even I do not expect India to lose all the matches, to get white washed against a country like New Zealand, or get the clobbering that they got from south Africa......must have been a tough 2 months for the mighty Indian team. Time to go back to India, where you can actually do win some matches!

 

[Gautam]

Newspapers are 'quoting' what BCCI stance is, I have not come across an article that has actually audited the income that each board generates.

I think it is a Hindu conspiracy. Thats why no other boards are objecting on India's "80% stance"

In any case, if India does indeed generate 80% of the revenues then she deserves a much larger share then any other nation, simple.

Thats what it is. Simple. But PCB didnt think like you. Afsos!

A world cup without any of the front-line contender such as Pakistan, or Sri Lanka would not be the same either. And even though I remember WC '07, I do not know what you are referring to specifically. And ICC gets sponsors from all over the world, infact a US city has an official Shahid Afridi day.....you think that other nations do not bring in sponsors?

And most importantly, how would it fare in India for BCCI if India does not play a WC, for whatever reasons???

A world cup without any other team would not be as commercially flop as it would be in case of India's pull out. That was my point.

You should have warned ICC that you will opt out of the world cup if the revamp gets passed. And then see what would have happened

World Cup winners do not mean that you are the top team, or does it?? And you are correct, partially, even I do not expect India to lose all the matches, to get white washed against a country like New Zealand, or get the clobbering that they got from south Africa......must have been a tough 2 months for the mighty Indian team. Time to go back to India, where you can actually do win some matches!

Lol we won 6 ODI series in a raw in 2013. Your martial race team could not do that.

We finished the year as number 1 ranking team. What else you want! We dont expect them to win every match.

I think you are expecting too much of Indian cricket team.

 

[ssethii]

No problem we will play under floodlights

Hum bhe lagwa lein gay. Hum ghareeb to nae hain. :p

 

[Sunny009]

It was our LEA that laid precious lives to protect those players and saved all those players. As the biggest target of terrorism, perhaps we should have been provided even more matches and international support, especially when Pakistan had offered security equivalent to the Prime Minister, to all visiting teams. But that's another topic.

England/Australian and Australian/New Zealand rivalry is bigger then anything India can offer except India/Pakistan matches. If you do not compare the matches that have NZ/BD and maybe SL/WI, perhaps all teams bring big shares. Finally, what is India without other teams?





Under the existing system, it was an equal share not only for the PCB but also for teams like Bangladesh.It was changed because you are the greedy one. despite being the richest of the cricketing boards, you still want more then you need. Precise definition of greedy!!

Any one with an ounce of an IQ would know how stupid an equal revenue distribution would be. India is a land of billion people (also the main source of cricket income) as such would tremendous investment to reach out to masses and bring forth the talent which we are clearly lacking especially in our bowling department. Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka are all small relatively and shouldn't be given an equal revenue. To think India is nothing without other boards may be you should express your views at an ICC meeting. Well it would amount to nothing because 8 out of 10 boards voted in our favor.

May be Pakistan could follow your idea not play matches against us. Its seems that is going to happen even if Pakistan doesn't want too. We are doing more than okay without much hyped India Pakistan matches. How about you? Why is PCB keeps begging about a bilateral series.


BTW You need learn English vocabulary. Greed is excessive desire to possess more than one deserves. I couldn't associate that word to India. Pakistan fits the bill perfectly

Any one with an ounce of an IQ would know how stupid an equal revenue distribution would be. India is a land of billion people (also the main source of cricket income) as such would tremendous investment to reach out to masses and bring forth the talent which we are clearly lacking especially in our bowling department. Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka are all small relatively and shouldn't be given an equal revenue. To think India is nothing without other boards may be you should express your views at an ICC meeting. Well it would amount to nothing because 8 out of 10 boards voted in our favor.

May be Pakistan could follow your idea not play matches against us. Its seems that is going to happen even if Pakistan doesn't want too. We are doing more than okay without much hyped India Pakistan matches. How about you? Why is PCB keeps begging about a bilateral series?


BTW You need learn English vocabulary. Greed is excessive desire to possess more than one deserves. I couldn't associate that word to India. Pakistan fits the bill perfectly

 

[Mav3rick]

I think it is a Hindu conspiracy. Thats why no other boards are objecting on India's "80% stance"

Thats what it is. Simple. But PCB didnt think like you. Afsos!

Have you ever stopped to think that might is right? BCCI is the mightiest board, because of her huge financial power, so maybe other boards had objections but they knew better then to speak up. Or it could just be PCB messing up, if the new setup meant more financial share for the bigger contributor. Lets wait for a while until things get clearer.

A world cup without any other team would not be as commercially flop as it would be in case of India's pull out. That was my point.

You should have warned ICC that you will opt out of the world cup if the revamp gets passed. And then see what would have happened

So just as I said above, might is right, right? But isn't this time to bring in more countries into the Cricket system rather then brining the system into disrepute? Can we atleast agree on the fact that BCCI had to twist arms and offer 'bribes' to get other boards to sign? (By bribes I meant guaranteed tours and such).

Lol we won 6 ODI series in a raw in 2013. Your martial race team could not do that.

We finished the year as number 1 ranking team. What else you want! We dont expect them to win every match.

I think you are expecting too much of Indian cricket team.

Not really, all we have see so far is that Indians are home tigers and foreign pussy cats. Since you play 80% of your matches at home, you have an improving record. You can check up on that.

Any one with an ounce of an IQ would know how stupid an equal revenue distribution would be. India is a land of billion people (also the main source of cricket income) as such would tremendous investment to reach out to masses and bring forth the talent which we are clearly lacking especially in our bowling department. Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka are all small relatively and shouldn't be given an equal revenue. To think India is nothing without other boards may be you should express your views at an ICC meeting. Well it would amount to nothing because 8 out of 10 boards voted in our favor.

Please consider my post above.

May be Pakistan could follow your idea not play matches against us. Its seems that is going to happen even if Pakistan doesn't want too. We are doing more than okay without much hyped India Pakistan matches. How about you? Why is PCB keeps begging about a bilateral series.

I wonder what you would be saying had only SA stuck to its initial stance, which it changed at the last moment.....the word for them is sellouts, and for you....bully.

BTW You need learn English vocabulary. Greed is excessive desire to possess more than one deserves. I couldn't associate that word to India. Pakistan fits the bill perfectly

Thanks for the suggestion, perhaps I should look for an Indian revision of the Oxford dictionary.

Moving on, BCCI is already the richest board and has excess money and a massive surplus budget. To want even more, is the precise definition of greed, especially if you have to 'make' people see your way!