IAEA, Hypocrisy and Israeli Nukes.

[nirreich]

Since israel has a massive military advantage today, it has no ground to possess nukes today, it can always give up its nukes.

The problem is that the ME is the most unstable region in the world, and Israel is still isolated and none of the countries in the region are ready to accept Israel as a Jewish-nation state. The radical axis of Iran, Syria, Hizbuhalla and Hamas is still planning how to destroy Israel by terrorism and military force. Furthermore, Iran's nuclear ambitions threatens Israel like the possibility of nuclear weapons in other Arab and Muslim countries (such as Egypt, KSA and Turkey). Their nuclear ambitions are part of the power struggle between the Muslim countries of the ME and got nothing to do with Israel's nuclear programme (Iran wants nuke to dominate to region, KSA and Egypt wants to counter Iran, etc.)

The condition for Israel's nuclear disarmament is very simple: permanent peace agreements and normalisation with all the countries of the ME. When that happens Israel will be able to have security and will not fear from the possibility of more attempts to eliminate it.

 

[T-Rex]

The problem is that the ME is the most unstable region in the world, and Israel is still isolated and none of the countries in the region are ready to accept Israel as a Jewish-nation state. The radical axis of Iran, Syria, Hizbuhalla and Hamas is still planning how to destroy Israel by terrorism and military force. Furthermore, Iran's nuclear ambitions threatens Israel like the possibility of nuclear weapons in other Arab and Muslim countries (such as Egypt, KSA and Turkey). Their nuclear ambitions are part of the power struggle between the Muslim countries of the ME and got nothing to do with Israel's nuclear programme (Iran wants nuke to dominate to region, KSA and Egypt wants to counter Iran, etc.)

The condition for Israel's nuclear disarmament is very simple: permanent peace agreements and normalisation with all the countries of the ME. When that happens Israel will be able to have security and will not fear from the possibility of more attempts to eliminate it.

The biggest problem is people like you are never short of excuses for not doing what should be done. Israel does not need nukes to have peace with its neighbours, it is just an excuse to keep the nukes at any cost. This is unacceptable to countries which have independent foreign policy.

 

[nirreich]

The biggest problem is people like you are never short of excuses for not doing what should be done. Israel does not need nukes to have peace with its neighbours, it is just an excuse to keep the nukes at any cost. This is unacceptable to countries which have independent foreign policy.

What an independent foreign policy got to do with it?

It seems you are having troubles to understand the difficult strategic situation of Israel because you do not live in a country completely isolated in its region with terror groups and countries committed to its destruction. You do not live in a country that the maximum distance between its borders in less than 100km and is some places were less than 20km (mainly near its urban and populated centres where Israel is most vulnerable).

Living under constant threat of liquidation drive you to develop a deterrence against any such possibility. Is it that difficult to understand?

 

[T-Rex]

What an independent foreign policy got to do with it?

It has everything to do with independent foreign policy. If the US had an independent foreign policy it would not defend israel the way it does. America simply implements the israelli foreign policy and that's why it has no objection to the israeli nukes.

 

[nirreich]

It has everything to do with independent foreign policy. If the US had an independent foreign policy it would not defend israel the way it does. America simply implements the israelli foreign policy and that's why it has no objection to the israeli nukes.

You are right that nowadays the US see Israel as a strategic asset in very problematic region but all this conspiracies that Israel run the US foreign policy are unsubstantial and both countries have a lot of disagreements (for example the US does not recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital city and the US embassy is in Tel Aviv).

The US realises like other world powers (both Western and non-Western, like Russia) that Israel's nuclear issue is hardly the main problem in the ME and has no negative implications. The main current threat is Iran's aspirations for nuclear weapons and its hegemonic ambitions.

 

[T-Rex]

You are right that nowadays the US see Israel as a strategic asset in very problematic region but all this conspiracies that Israel run the US foreign policy are unsubstantial and both countries have a lot of disagreements (for example the US does not recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital city and the US embassy is in Tel Aviv).

The US realises like other world powers (both Western and non-Western, like Russia) that Israel's nuclear issue is hardly the main problem in the ME and has no negative implications. The main current threat is Iran's aspirations for nuclear weapons and its hegemonic ambitions.

You twist what your adversaries say, give up this zionist habit. Iran's ambitions are in no way hegemonic, it is simply working to defend itself from israel's nuclear hegemony.

 

[nirreich]

You twist what your adversaries say, give up this zionist habit. Iran's ambitions are in no way hegemonic, it is simply working to defend itself from israel's nuclear hegemony.

Iran is not worried about Israel but about the US hegemony. Iran wants to spread the Islamic revolution and the US is its main adversary which blockade Iran from achieving its strategic goal.

As I already mentioned several times, Israel has no conflict with Iran and Iran is no more threatened from Israel's WMD than Bangladesh: why Bangladesh does not develop nuclear weapons because of Israel?

 

[T-Rex]

Iran is not worried about Israel but about the US hegemony.

At least,you admit that there's something called the US hegemony and one day you'll also admit that there's also something called the israeli hegemony.

As I already mentioned several times, Israel has no conflict with Iran and Iran is no more threatened from Israel's WMD than Bangladesh:

It's like saying there's no conflict in the ME.

 

[Zarvan]

IAEA is a USA slave just like UN and other organisations it will do nothing against ISRAEL as long as USA supports Israel

 

[nirreich]

At least,you admit that there's something called the US hegemony and one day you'll also admit that there's also something called the israeli hegemony.




It's like saying there's no conflict in the ME.

I never denied that the US is a superpower and wants to stay in this status. Personally, I hope it will succeed.

If Iran is concerned about Israel, then why it was its ally until 1979? How Israel can be a threat to Iran while Israel never had any conflict with Iran on anything. Israel's main problem is Iran's current regime and his aspirations to eliminate Israel.

Or do you deny that Iran wants to exterminate Israel?

Why Bangladesh (and other 192 countries) do not develop nukes because of Israel?

 

[T-Rex]

I never denied that the US is a superpower and wants to stay in this status. Personally, I hope it will succeed.

If Iran is concerned about Israel, then why it was its ally until 1979? How Israel can be a threat to Iran while Israel never had any conflict with Iran on anything. Israel's main problem is Iran's current regime and his aspirations to eliminate Israel.

Or do you deny that Iran wants to exterminate Israel?

Why Bangladesh (and other 192 countries) do not develop nukes because of Israel?

That iran wants to exterminate israel is the greatest zionist propaganda. It is used to hide the threat of the israeli nukes. BTW if you want to discuss BD there is a section for that, try there.

 

[nirreich]

That iran wants to exterminate israel is the greatest zionist propaganda. It is used to hide the threat of the israeli nukes. BTW if you want to discuss BD there is a section for that, try there.

Do I really need to give links to the numerous speeches of Iran's leaders and particularly Ahmenijad against the existence of Israel? Or is even the Iranian regime considered by you as a Zionist puppet?

What threat Israel's so called nukes has more on Iran than on Bangladesh?

BTW. what is BD?

 

[T-Rex]

Do I really need to give links to the numerous speeches of Iran's leaders and particularly Ahmenijad against the existence of Israel? Or is the Iranian regime is a Zionist puppet?

What threat Israel's so called nukes has more on Iran than on Bangladesh?

BTW. what is BD?

Yeah, give us those links engineered by the venerable Mossad. BD stands for Bangladesh; I thought you were smart.

 

[nirreich]

Yeah, give us those links engineered by the venerable Mossad. BD stands for Bangladesh; I thought you were smart.

If I give you recorded speeches will that convince you that Iran wants to exterminate Israel or will you think that the person talking is an actor of Mossad who is disguised as Ahmadinijad?

I just want to make sure before I even bother.

What do you think? That Iran wants peace with Israel and ready to recognise it?

 

[T-Rex]

If I give you recorded speeches will that convince you that Iran wants to exterminate Israel or will you think that the person talking is an actor of Mossad who is disguised as Ahmadinijad?

I just want to make sure before I even bother.

What do you think? That Iran wants peace with Israel and ready to recognise it?

I know how voices can be duplicated, Mossad has the technology and the expertise, so I won't be surprised if you come up with one. Whatever the case, israel simply does not have any excuse to possess nukes.