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Whether it is the language, or the attire, or the food, our neighbour takes pride in creating its own ethos.

On the eve of Independence Day, having just returned from Pakistan, and marked my presence on the "zero" line, I could not but help wonder what kind of identities our two 69-year-old nations project. And how representative they are in reality.

In India, are we looking at a single dominant identity or will we continue as a collection of myriad religions, communities and cultures? Aren't our multiple religions our heritage, which is to be preserved?

Certainly, Pakistan seems to have sorted the problem by declaring its identity as an Islamic Republic, and so the overwhelming image is very much of a Muslim country. Whether it is the language, or the attire, or the food (barring a very cosmopolitan culture in some cities), Pakistan takes pride in creating its own ethos. Perhaps this was essential, given the short history of its existence.

But what about our collective pre-history? How does one deal with it? That was a looming question, when we visited Taxila, in Pakistan, an ancient site which had witnessed both war and peace, but had also seen knowledge sprout and spread in monastic schools scattered over a vast area. The ruins are compelling. And much of what remains is starkly of Buddhist origin. The museum and the first archeological digs which were pulled together by Sir John Marshall in the early 20th century demonstrated what a large habitation this might have been, definitely dating back more than 2000 years.

In the literature handed out by the museum it seems this area, near the Indus, was even inhabited in 3100 BC. But it is clear that a lot of the religious history of the subcontinent is buried here. While there are some suggestions that the Mahabharata was first recited in this area, there are also the well-preserved Buddhist stupas and shrines, and, from a much later medieval period, evidence of madrasas and a mosque.

We visited one of the most impressive sites, at Jaulian, where a school of learning had been established, around 2000 years ago, on top of a hill. It was obviously a Buddhist school, with intricate remnants still to be found of stupas and the Buddha replicated over and over again. Could the methodical repetition of the images have been a form of meditation? Or of prayer? Why was there this constant replication of his life, often within the same space? Was this done deliberately to assert a religion which was no doubt flourishing in that period?

The school at Jaulian appears, even now, to be well-planned and spread out, and the entire structure is hewn out of the locally available stone. The living quarters are carefully defined, and small, ventilated rooms stand on a square. There is a dry pond in the centre, where, according to our guide, once upon a time, lilies blossomed. All around are shuttered alcoves within which reside more images of the Buddha.

It is undoubtedly an amazing experience to see how well preserved (given the harsh climate, and the attacks by invaders) many of the images still are. And then there are little interesting highlights, such as the lecture hall, and the kitchen area, opening up on all sides to the hills, and the open skies.

One can imagine this as a bustling Buddhist enclave, somewhat distant from present day Pakistan or even India. Is there something of those times still within us? Do we still bear the ancient stamp of those identities, and hear within us the chanting of those monks... Our shared history has so many questions, and conundrums! We should find a common space to both treasure and resolve them.

#Buddhism, #Pakistan, #Independence Day


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How Pakistan is preserving its culture better than India
 
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Title is terribly misleading . By the way indias culture is its ppl not in bricks or buildings. Pakistan has become an arabized country so they gaze at our past contemplating when to destroy it ,deny it and what reason to give for it.
 
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Title is terribly misleading . By the way indias culture is its ppl not in bricks or buildings. Pakistan has become an arabized country so they gaze at our past contemplating when to destroy it ,deny it and what reason to give for it.

Anything, even the smallest bit different to Indian culture is branded as "arabized" as you say. You forget that Pakistan shares a large border with Iran and Afghanistan.
 
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Title is terribly misleading . By the way indias culture is its ppl not in bricks or buildings. Pakistan has become an arabized country so they gaze at our past contemplating when to destroy it ,deny it and what reason to give for it.
Tell your reporters to report properly :enjoy:
 
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Anything, even the smallest bit different to Indian culture is branded as "arabized" as you say. You forget that Pakistan shares a large border with Iran and Afghanistan.
Nope I am not talking about india/iran , pakistan takes more pride in relating themselves to arabs than to its surrounding areas. If they really shared some culture with Iran , shias would not be hounded out.
 
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see the Indian movies they have no culture left-
Ok thx for the tip. India over the years has assimilated all the cultures from barbaric invaders to genial parsis. India is still moving on, evolving and will do so for ages to come. We dint get stomped by the british or the hostile muslim invaders. Last thing india needs is a lecture about preservation of culture from some country of converts.:hitwall:

I fail to see what is 'Arab' about them?
A small example khuda hafiz to allah hafiz.
And a big lecture Ahlan Wasahlan, Al Bakistan! - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
It is not what you see or what they are. It is what they want to become/think they are.
 
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What culture she is talking about ...We have not one but highest number of Buddhist sites,some of are included as world heritage sites,we take pride as india is the birthplace of buddhism.

She probably never visited even the single site preserved with taxpayers money.

see the Indian movies they have no culture left-
Indian movies represent the taste of modern and progressive society ....have you seen any Pakistani girl hanging out in night clubs and wearing shorts ?
 
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A small example khuda hafiz to allah hafiz.
And a big lecture Ahlan Wasahlan, Al Bakistan! - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
It is not what you see or what they are. It is what they want to become/think they are.

I say "Allah Hafiz" to my family all the time. Does that mean I'm trying to be an Arab?

Just let go of the hate! It is not what they think they are, it is what YOU think they are because certainly you can't read their mind, can you? ;p
 
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I say "Allah Hafiz" to my family all the time. Does that mean I'm trying to be an Arab?
Just let go of the hate! It is not what they think they are, it is what YOU think they are because certainly you can't read their mind, can you? ;p
Mate, I am not hating any body only expressing my opinion. Its not my thinking its their actions and "allah hafiz" is just one example among many. I am not point at any individual but the society as whole.
Is ‘Oh my God’ going to become ‘Oh my Allah’ in Pakistan? – The Express Tribune Blog
 
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These articles are mostly published to promote love for own culture. I would say cultures of both the countries's youth is influenced by western way of life, their songs, their clothes, and English of course. But not all is lost, in both the countries there is classical music, dances, etc. of respective culture at schools and colleges. Culture is also interlinked with technology, these days even 5 year olds own a smartphone. Does it mean we are losing culture? Although there is nothing wrong in adapting few things from different cultures, its always good to take pride in the culture your own people have created.

In todays world, culture which shines the most, sells the most. Its like trend.
 
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Your country is just a flower. Our country is a full bouquet with different types and colours of flower.

We are colourful people and you are 'green' with envy. :lol:
Whether it is the language, or the attire, or the food, our neighbour takes pride in creating its own ethos.

On the eve of Independence Day, having just returned from Pakistan, and marked my presence on the "zero" line, I could not but help wonder what kind of identities our two 69-year-old nations project. And how representative they are in reality.

In India, are we looking at a single dominant identity or will we continue as a collection of myriad religions, communities and cultures? Aren't our multiple religions our heritage, which is to be preserved?

Certainly, Pakistan seems to have sorted the problem by declaring its identity as an Islamic Republic, and so the overwhelming image is very much of a Muslim country. Whether it is the language, or the attire, or the food (barring a very cosmopolitan culture in some cities), Pakistan takes pride in creating its own ethos. Perhaps this was essential, given the short history of its existence.

But what about our collective pre-history? How does one deal with it? That was a looming question, when we visited Taxila, in Pakistan, an ancient site which had witnessed both war and peace, but had also seen knowledge sprout and spread in monastic schools scattered over a vast area. The ruins are compelling. And much of what remains is starkly of Buddhist origin. The museum and the first archeological digs which were pulled together by Sir John Marshall in the early 20th century demonstrated what a large habitation this might have been, definitely dating back more than 2000 years.

In the literature handed out by the museum it seems this area, near the Indus, was even inhabited in 3100 BC. But it is clear that a lot of the religious history of the subcontinent is buried here. While there are some suggestions that the Mahabharata was first recited in this area, there are also the well-preserved Buddhist stupas and shrines, and, from a much later medieval period, evidence of madrasas and a mosque.

We visited one of the most impressive sites, at Jaulian, where a school of learning had been established, around 2000 years ago, on top of a hill. It was obviously a Buddhist school, with intricate remnants still to be found of stupas and the Buddha replicated over and over again. Could the methodical repetition of the images have been a form of meditation? Or of prayer? Why was there this constant replication of his life, often within the same space? Was this done deliberately to assert a religion which was no doubt flourishing in that period?

The school at Jaulian appears, even now, to be well-planned and spread out, and the entire structure is hewn out of the locally available stone. The living quarters are carefully defined, and small, ventilated rooms stand on a square. There is a dry pond in the centre, where, according to our guide, once upon a time, lilies blossomed. All around are shuttered alcoves within which reside more images of the Buddha.

It is undoubtedly an amazing experience to see how well preserved (given the harsh climate, and the attacks by invaders) many of the images still are. And then there are little interesting highlights, such as the lecture hall, and the kitchen area, opening up on all sides to the hills, and the open skies.

One can imagine this as a bustling Buddhist enclave, somewhat distant from present day Pakistan or even India. Is there something of those times still within us? Do we still bear the ancient stamp of those identities, and hear within us the chanting of those monks... Our shared history has so many questions, and conundrums! We should find a common space to both treasure and resolve them.

#Buddhism, #Pakistan, #Independence Day


The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of DailyO.in or the India Today Group. The writers are solely responsible for any claims arising out of the contents of this article.






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