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For example take India cong/only one party ruiling without CAG(independent auditing)/Autonomous judiciary/Free media/Robust opposition (may be they are not perfect )four pillars for balancing & checks

If these four are not there in india i think india will become a zurasic park........ even i’m afraid anyone of organ not present the cong thugs destroy the country

But my doubt is how can the CCP without these 4 organs (checks & balances) suceeded to retain power in china so long

For pakistani’s just imagine only ppp/army ruling without 4 organs how pak may be...

And i know how their impractical communist party(cpi) in WB&kerala not worked

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The checks and balances are there, they are just internal within the CCP itself.

Hu Jintao for example was not very powerful. He needed a consensus from the rest of the Politburo before he could do anything.

Sonia Gandhi and her family on the other hand are much more powerful in India than anyone is in China. When Sonia says something, the rest of the politicians throw themselves down and make it done, whether NEGERA or the FSB.

Whereas Hu Jintao was adamant that Li Keqiang become the Paramount leader of China after he stepped down, but it never happened. The job went to Xi Jinping instead, despite the protests of Hu Jintao who was supposed to be the most powerful person in China.
 
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The checks and balances are there, they are just internal within the CCP itself.

Hu Jintao for example was not very powerful. He needed a consensus from the rest of the Politburo before he could do anything.

Sonia Gandhi and her family on the other hand are much more powerful in India than anyone is in China. When Sonia says something, the rest of the politicians throw themselves down and make it done, whether NEGERA or the FSB.

Whereas Hu Jintao was adamant that Li Keqiang become the Paramount leader of China after he stepped down, but it never happened. The job went to Xi Jinping instead, despite the protests of Hu Jintao who was supposed to be the most powerful person in China.


Sonia gandhi clan most probably poster boys bcoz everybody want power if gandhi clan not there the party may be destroyed internally......mainly politburo of congress run the game actually
and in china who check the Politburo i mean how politburo members selected once they selected anybody removed who remove them ....
 
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Sonia gandhi clan most probably poster boys mainly politburo of congress run the game actually
and in china who check the Politburo

The Politburo is checked and balanced by the wide and divergent interests of the many Politburo members, as well as the various internal factions of the CCP like the Tuanpai.

Hu Jintao was frequently overruled by the Politburo.

If Hu Jintao tried to push through reckless socialist schemes like India's NEGERA or FSB, he would be shut down instantly.

Whereas Sonia decided to push through those reckless schemes and did it easily.

Which is why India economic performance has recently collapsed, to 3.2% growth in 2012, and by far the worst fiscal and trade deficits in the developing world.

Because one person can make a silly decision, with no checks and balances to stop it.

China's system is not perfect of course, and the lack of an independent judiciary is a big problem. (Though the Chinese justice system has not banned gay people yet).
 
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The Politburo is checked and balanced by the wide and divergent interests of the many Politburo members, as well as the various internal factions of the CCP like the Tuanpai.

Hu Jintao was frequently overruled by the Politburo.

If Hu Jintao tried to push through reckless socialist schemes like India's NEGERA or FSB, he would be shut down instantly.

Whereas Sonia decided to push through those reckless schemes and did it easily.

Which is why India economic performance has recently collapsed, to 3.2% growth in 2012, and by far the worst fiscal and trade deficits in the developing world.

Because one person can make a silly decision, with no checks and balances to stop it.

China's system is not perfect of course, and the lack of an independent judiciary is a big problem. (Though the Chinese justice system has not banned gay people yet).
That gay law getting passed is the agenda of USA and west, they want to morally corrupt India and thereby weaken its social fabric,once social fabric is down, you wont protest much to hostile moves as they are in awe of western culture, since everything the west does it wonderful, but anything that Indian does or its culture does is barbaric or retrogressive,West gives certificates of civilization to everyone in the world.
What next after gay law is passed, bestiality,necophillia,pedophillia?

There is talk that Obama himself is gay, therefore it is in his interest and his gay lobbies in usa to get gay laws passed all over the world.The gay population in every country can be used a s trump card for them to wreak havoc in anti-national activities.


Claim: Obama hid ‘gay life’ to become president

CLAIM: OBAMA HID 'GAY LIFE' TO BECOME PRESIDENT
Chicago homosexual community shocked he could keep it secret

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A prominent member of Chicago’s homosexual community claims Barack Obama’s participation in the “gay” bar and bathhouse scene was so well known that many who were aware of his lifestyle were shocked when he ran for president and finally won the White House.

“It was preposterous to the people I knew then to think Obama was going to keep his gay life secret,” said Kevin DuJan, who was a gossip columnist in Chicago for various blogs when Obama was living in the city as a community organizer and later a state senator.

“Nobody who knew Obama in the gay bar scene thought he could possibly be president,” said DuJan.

DuJan, founder and editor of the Hillary Clinton-supporting website HillBuzz.org, told WND he has first-hand information from two different sources that “Obama was personally involved in the gay bar scene.”

“If you just hang out at these bars, the older guys who have been frequenting these gay bars for 25 years will tell you these stories,” DuJan said. “Obama used to go to the gay bars during the week, most often on Wednesday, and they said he was very much into older white guys.”

Obama, DuJan said, is “not heterosexual and he’s not bisexual. He’s homosexual.”

Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen, who worked with the National Security Agency from 1984 to 1988 as a Navy intelligence analyst, confirmed DuJan’s claims.

“It is common knowledge in the Chicago gay community that Obama actively visited the gay bars and bathhouses in Chicago while he was an Illinois state senator,” Madsen told WND.

WND also spoke with a member of the East Bank Club in Chicago, who confirmed Obama was a member there and was known to be a homosexual. The upscale fitness club, which has some 10,000 members, is not a “gay” facility. But it’s one of a number of places identified by the Chicago homosexual community as a “gay gym,” where homosexuals meet and engage in sexual activity.

In April, WND reported a federal judge dismissed a libel case against Larry Sinclair, a homosexual who claimed Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign had paid to rig a polygraph test regarding Sinclair’s sensational charge that he had sex and used cocaine twice with Obama while Obama was an Illinois state senator. Sinclair tells his story in “Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder.”

WND also reported former radical activist John Drew has said that when he met Obama when Obama was a student at Occidental College, he thought Obama and his then-Pakistani roommate were “gay” lovers.

In addition, rumors have swirled around Obama’s relationship with his personal aide and former “body man,” Reggie Love, who resurfaced on the eve of the Republican National Convention to support his old boss. Love resigned from the White House in November 2011 after compromising photographs of him as a college student received wide circulation.

WND also has documented in two separate articles, here and here, that Obama wore a gold band on his wedding ring finger from the time he attended Occidental College through his student days at Harvard Law School.

DuJan said that during Obama’s first presidential campaign, “there was fear in the gay community” about talking openly about Obama being homosexual, particularly after the murder in December 2007 of Donald Young, the openly gay choir director at Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ, who was known to be a close friend of Obama.

“People did not want to talk openly about Obama being gay,” he said.

“Then, when we saw how Larry Sinclair was demonized, anybody who would expose Obama worried they would be silenced if they dared to speak the truth about Obama’s gay life,” DuJan said.

‘Obama’s secrets’

DuJan said he has been told “Obama’s secrets would have to come out just like John Edwards’ secrets came out.”

He said Obama stopped going to gay bars and bathhouses in Chicago when he began running for the U.S. Senate in 2004.

“Back then, Obama could walk around Chicago and people generally wouldn’t recognize him, even though he was a state senator in the Illinois assembly at the time,” DuJan said.

DuJan insisted that while he’s a supporter of Hillary Clinton, he holds no personal animus toward Obama. He said he campaigned for Clinton in 2008 “because I had waited for years for her to be able to run.”

“I opposed Obama not because I’m a racist, or that I hate Obama, I just knew the type of person Obama associated with in Chicago,” he said.

He pointed to Obama’s association with convicted Chicago real estate magnate Tony Rezko, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and Rev. Wright.

“Obama was a dirty politician that the media never wanted to vet – that’s what concerned me about Obama,” Du Jan said.

DuJan spoke further of his claims about Obama in an interview Monday night on Andrea Shea King’s show on BlogTalkRadio.com, which included questions from WND during the last half of the show.

Man’s Country

Madsen published an article in his Wayne Madsen Report in May 2010 claiming Obama and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel were members of the same bathhouse in Chicago.

“President Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay bathhouse in uptown Chicago, according to informed sources in Chicago’s gay community, as well as veteran political sources in the city,” Madsen wrote.

He said the bathhouse, “Man’s Country,” catered “to older men,” noting “it has been in business for some 30 years and is known as one of uptown Chicago’s ‘grand old bathhouses.’”

Madsen wrote his 2010 report after traveling to Chicago to interview bartenders and customers at several “gay” bars.

DuJan gave WND a list of “gay” bars in Chicago where older customers hang out and tell stories about how Obama, prior to 2004, frequented visited to pick up men for sex, including several on Halstead Street, widely known as an “uber-gay Chicago street.

Writing in HillBuzz.org Tuesday, DuJan said rooms at Man’s Country bathhouse are still referred to as the “presidential suite,” or the “Oral Office,” because “the current President used to haunt the place when he was a just another Illinois state senator that no one had ever heard of or cared about.”

DuJan said he believes that, someday, “all of this is going to be as public knowledge as JFK’s affair with Marilyn Monroe and the other women he cavorted with while married to Jackie.”

“Someday,” he said, “in the next 10-20 years, everyone will know all about Man’s Country, and the place will no doubt get a plaque of sometime commemorating that place as a gay hangout for the future leader of the free world.”


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Foreigners,especially those immersed in western thoughts、ideas and ideologies,will never know the internal workings of Chinese politics。

China a dictatorship?lol!China is far more democratic than many self-proclaimed democracies。

It just happens to be democratic in a different and more efficient way。

It is leadership by consensus。
 
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Foreigners,especially those immersed in western thoughts、ideas and ideologies,will never know the internal workings of Chinese politics。

China a dictatorship?lol!China is far more democratic than many self-proclaimed democracies。


It just happens to be democratic in a different and more efficient way。

It is leadership by consensus。

your self proclaimed statement enough proof for china is more democratic:rofl::rofl:
 
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Because the Chinese people let them.
 
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Foreigners,especially those immersed in western thoughts、ideas and ideologies,will never know the internal workings of Chinese politics。

China a dictatorship?lol!China is far more democratic than many self-proclaimed democracies。

It just happens to be democratic in a different and more efficient way。


It is leadership by consensus。
Absolutely...

90% Of China’s Super-Rich Want To Send Children Abroad
Western media have reported that Xi Mingze, the daughter of Xi Jinping, who is widely expected to become the new president of China and chairman of its Communist Party, is studying at Harvard University under an assumed name. (The university hasn't confirmed to the International Business Times that she indeed studies there.)
Little miss Mingze is not even out of school and the 'democratic consensus' is that she will be China's next leader. Very democratic, indeed.
 
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Absolutely...

90% Of China’s Super-Rich Want To Send Children Abroad

Little miss Mingze is not even out of school and the 'democratic consensus' is that she will be China's next leader. Very democratic, indeed.
You believe that report that Xi Mingze is "widely expected" to become the new president of China and chairman of the CPC? That is beyond ridiculous.

Don't this reporter and editor has any shame?

Don't they have any journalistic integrity?

Why is it that when it come to China, they can just do this kind of outrageous reporting?
 
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The Politburo is checked and balanced by the wide and divergent interests of the many Politburo members, as well as the various internal factions of the CCP like the Tuanpai.

Hu Jintao was frequently overruled by the Politburo.

If Hu Jintao tried to push through reckless socialist schemes like India's NEGERA or FSB, he would be shut down instantly.

Whereas Sonia decided to push through those reckless schemes and did it easily.

Which is why India economic performance has recently collapsed, to 3.2% growth in 2012, and by far the worst fiscal and trade deficits in the developing world.

Because one person can make a silly decision, with no checks and balances to stop it.

China's system is not perfect of course, and the lack of an independent judiciary is a big problem. (Though the Chinese justice system has not banned gay people yet).

The law was passed by both the houses of Parliament.

Foreigners,especially those immersed in western thoughts、ideas and ideologies,will never know the internal workings of Chinese politics。

China a dictatorship?lol!China is far more democratic than many self-proclaimed democracies。

It just happens to be democratic in a different and more efficient way。

It is leadership by consensus。

That seems like over exaggeration. :lol:
 
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Sonia gandhi clan most probably poster boys bcoz everybody want power if gandhi clan not there the party may be destroyed internally......mainly politburo of congress run the game actually
and in china who check the Politburo i mean how politburo members selected once they selected anybody removed who remove them ....

  • The Fairy-Tale
One of the most widespread and pervasive fairy-tales told about Western multi-party democracy is that the elected officials are accountable to the people

Nothing could be further from the truth. We are electing not a representative, but a master, and any control we may have had was dissipated with the casting of our vote.

Countless politicians in various democracies have been unqualified to deal with their nations' economies and instituted policies that caused high unemployment, financial losses, real estate crashes, and other calamities for the population. None of those people were punished or made to answer in any way for their actions.

In every so-called democracy, the elected politicians lie, mislead, bankrupt the people, trash the economy, engage in unjustified wars for their own ego, cancel social security benefits, and give huge tax breaks to the rich while bleeding the middle class.

And We, The People, having lost our jobs, our homes, our investments, our sons in the wars, can do no more than look miffed and say, "Well! I sure won't vote for you next time."

  • What Does it Mean, To Be "Accountable"?
There is no personal responsibility in any Western democracy and, without personal responsibility, there is no accountability.

To elect a different person the next time, is NOT the same as holding a government official personally accountable for creating a financial or human disaster through incompetence or ignorance.

Replacing the party in power for one term is NOT the same thing as holding each member of the previous party personally accountable for their mismanagement.

In Western democracies, elected representatives are accountable to no one.
 
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  • The Fairy-Tale
One of the most widespread and pervasive fairy-tales told about Western multi-party democracy is that the elected officials are accountable to the people

Nothing could be further from the truth. We are electing not a representative, but a master, and any control we may have had was dissipated with the casting of our vote.

Countless politicians in various democracies have been unqualified to deal with their nations' economies and instituted policies that caused high unemployment, financial losses, real estate crashes, and other calamities for the population. None of those people were punished or made to answer in any way for their actions.

In every so-called democracy, the elected politicians lie, mislead, bankrupt the people, trash the economy, engage in unjustified wars for their own ego, cancel social security benefits, and give huge tax breaks to the rich while bleeding the middle class.

And We, The People, having lost our jobs, our homes, our investments, our sons in the wars, can do no more than look miffed and say, "Well! I sure won't vote for you next time."

  • What Does it Mean, To Be "Accountable"?
There is no personal responsibility in any Western democracy and, without personal responsibility, there is no accountability.

To elect a different person the next time, is NOT the same as holding a government official personally accountable for creating a financial or human disaster through incompetence or ignorance.

Replacing the party in power for one term is NOT the same thing as holding each member of the previous party personally accountable for their mismanagement.

In Western democracies, elected representatives are accountable to no one.

Please educate your self with democracy ........ democracy has its flaws but it still best among the worst and your rest is :sleep:
 
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