How 20 million Pakistanis defeated 500 million indians in 2 wars (1948, 1965) captured from them a territory larger then Austria or Czech Republic

[StraightEdge]

India does not have an economy, its a 3rd world country with cooked numbers. Never trust India's GDP figures, it never has tangible progress on the ground to back those numbers.

Imagine if India's economy is that bad, what about Pakistan economy? In what parameters is Pakistan better than Indian economy?

 

[K_Bin_W]

Imagine if India's economy is that bad, what about Pakistan economy? In what parameters is Pakistan better than Indian economy?

Less hunger and not as many street shytters.

 

[StraightEdge]

Less hunger and not as many street shytters.

Let's look at news at Pakistan's food situation now.

Explosive food inflation - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
Pakistan Is Facing a Growing Food Crisis. Here's Why | Time
In Pakistan, Armed Guards Now Protect Wheat Deliveries As Food Crisis Worsens (rferl.org)
Looming food crisis in Pakistan (nation.com.pk)

Just to list a few, I have avoided the popular Indian media reports as you will claim those are fake.

 

[manpk77]

Not really if you consider the claims that Vedic people were beef eaters and buried their dead which is coherent to archeological findings of ancient Indo-Iranic peoples burying their dead.

The Vedic civilization is one of the founding stages for Pakistan. Much like how ancient Rome was one of the founding stages of modern Italy.

Wrong, the vedic tradition is basically praying the celestial Gods through a particular ritual. Pakistan was formed because it was contradictory and anti to this Vedic tradition.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Wrong, the vedic tradition is basically praying the celestial Gods through a particular ritual. Pakistan was formed because it was contradictory and anti to this Vedic tradition.

The main point is vedic era belief has got nothing to do with present day Hinduism.. different gods ..different lifestyle...yes they try to take inspiration from it and claim vedas to be the word from those times but then it's just a claim and nothing more.

 

[manpk77]

Let's look at news at Pakistan's food situation now.

Explosive food inflation - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
Pakistan Is Facing a Growing Food Crisis. Here's Why | Time
In Pakistan, Armed Guards Now Protect Wheat Deliveries As Food Crisis Worsens (rferl.org)
Looming food crisis in Pakistan (nation.com.pk)

Just to list a few, I have avoided the popular Indian media reports as you will claim those are fake.

You are at the wrong platform to discuss economy. People here are financially secure and they don't know how bad the situation is for Pakistan.

The main point is vedic era belief has got nothing to do with present day Hinduism.

Hindus pray to celestial Gods, that's vedic tradition. This is considered as Kufr in Islam if you do not know.

 

[ThunderCat]

Wrong, the vedic tradition is basically praying the celestial Gods through a particular ritual. Pakistan was formed because it was contradictory and anti to this Vedic tradition.

How can it be, since the original Vedic tradition died out centuries before the Pakistan Independence Movement. Modern Brahmanism is not the religion of the Vedic civilization. It only takes "inspiration" from it.

Vedic civilization is Pakistani heritage, not Bharati. Just like how Roman history is Italian heritage, regardless of the difference in religion.

The main point is vedic era belief has got nothing to do with present day Hinduism.. different gods ..different lifestyle...yes they try to take inspiration from it and claim vedas to be the word from those times but then it's just a claim and nothing more.

No such religion as "Hinduism." The native people of the Americas never had a common religion. Likewise for the native religions of the subcontinent. Some are related others are not.

 

[TNT]

Pakistan have decisively won only one war and that the 48 one and guess what, that was fought by locals and tribals. If anything, the royal Pakistan army stopped mujahideen from taking Srinagar and returned them saying india have surrendered. The war in 65 was stalemate and 71 was embarrassing. We even gave up kargil. The people of Pakistan can defeat india but Pakistan army cannot, because they r incompetent colonial fools who are only good to kill and torture its own citizens.

 

[manpk77]

How can it be, since the original Vedic tradition died out centuries before the Pakistan Independence Movement. Modern Brahmanism is not the religion of the Vedic civilization. It only takes "inspiration" from it.

Vedic civilization is Pakistani heritage, not Bharati. Just like how Roman history is Italian heritage, regardless of the difference in religion.

Pakistan was part of India only.

 

[ThunderCat]

Pakistan was part of India only.

Seems like we have a long term troll on this forum. Probably a self-loathing Muhajir with an identity crisis and trying to spread his confusion onto Pakistanis.

 

[manpk77]

Seems like we have a long term troll on this forum. Probably a self-loathing Muhajir with an identity crisis and trying to spread his confusion onto Pakistanis.

East India Company was in Karachi as per you then? Nation is is trouble and you are bringing useless posts without any besharmi.

 

[ThunderCat]

East India Company was in Karachi as per you then? Nation is is trouble and you are bringing useless posts without any besharmi.

I am responding to what was thrown at me. Go and look up the etymology of the name "India" you madrassa graduate.

Even before independence, Jinnah opposed the new country from adopting this name. Pakistan is and always was the geographical India, long before this new country stole the name.

Now bugger off, you confused mentally ill madrassa grad.

 

[ThunderCat]

Less hunger and not as many street shytters.

And the same is true for Bangladesh. We have some confused people advocating us to become like the world's most densely populated country.

The World Bank which they keep citing already lists Bangladesh has having amongst half the world's poorest of the poor.

World's most densely populated country. Their capital is also reported be the second most polluted in the world. Not surprising.

Even bangladeshi sources have argued the economic growth there has widened the gap between rich and poor.

Not to mention their economy mostly consists of garments.

Pakistan might be in shambles, no doubt. But do I want it to become another India or Bangladesh? No thanks!

 

[SecularNationalist]

For some this may feel like a david vs goliath win but it is not really that if you look little bit deeper. Pakistan has always been superior to India and this is not only about modern era but going back 3000 years..

their defeats were in 1948 and 1965 conventionally in 1948 they lost a territory larger then Austria and Czech Republic to Pakistan which is called today Gilgit Baltistan and Azad Kashmir held by Pakistan to this day. In to 1965 Pakistan beat back their offensive to retake these territories but advanced into mainland India in counter-attack..

Iron Age vedic era Pakistanis had nothing to do with India. Modern day Pakistanis are simply superior to their indian counter-parts and ruling elite of the subcontinent.

There is alot of talk about Aryan expansion in Indian history and that expansion was by today's so-called aryans who were the current day Pakistan..

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The Proto-Aryans are often mistakenly confused with Indics but the only thing they did is some of them expanded southwards towards Indian subcontinent and the journey down south was due to economical reasons. They have done close to 10-15 incursions into the Indian main land in the last 3000 years including the Islamic expansions as majority of the Punjabis and current day Pakistan were muslims for atleast 1100+ years they tagged along. but as for their previous expansions pre-Islam it is known as the Aryan expansions today.

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Dude grow up seriously

 

[ST72]

For some this may feel like a david vs goliath win but it is not really that if you look little bit deeper. Pakistan has always been superior to India and this is not only about modern era but going back 3000 years..

their defeats were in 1948 and 1965 conventionally in 1948 they lost a territory larger then Austria and Czech Republic to Pakistan which is called today Gilgit Baltistan and Azad Kashmir held by Pakistan to this day. In to 1965 Pakistan beat back their offensive to retake these territories but advanced into mainland India in counter-attack..

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Pretty late to this obviously but could you point me towards the reading that has informed your version of this history? Any good books on those wars?

Also did I misunderstand? How could Pakistan be superior 3000 years ago? Or have I totally missed the sarcasm and you are doing a parody of an ignorant, rabid nationalist?