Honest question to Turkish members?

[Hold the door]

Tell that to those who want a "Greater Turan" and shout "Turkic brothers,Turkic brothers"

We can talk about cultural genes. We have the same cultural genes with Turkic countries. They are our brothers.

 

[Foinikas]

We can talk about cultural genes. We have the same cultural genes with Turkic countries. They are our brothers.

Dur ya,dur. Cultural genes and stuff. There's a gazillion people in Turkey shouting "Ohh we're brothers...Turan brothers". You got people like MMM-E claiming Mongolian history as Turkish. He claims all "16 Turkic Empires" as Turkish history and went on so far as to brag about "Turkish army since 219 BC"

 

[xbat]

The history that we got taught in the last 100 years is absolute garbage, the main goal is to hide real history, for example no one knows our eastern africa history in todays Turkey, why? because we are purseing some myths in central asia that 2-3 k years old but not looking at just yesterday!

 

[Kejo]

Tell that to those who want a "Greater Turan" and shout "Turkic brothers,Turkic brothers"

We are part of the Turan family. That's not a contradiction. Your understanding of identity is too heavily influenced by European education. Turkey is different.

But that's enough off-topic.

 

[Tamerlane]

If Turkey has an overpopulation problem I would suggest a solution.

Send 1-5 million educated Turks to Pakistan to help fix our country. Let the officer class of the British Indian Army of Pakistan be replaced with Turkish officers. Let them take all senior positions in the bureaucracy, judiciary and police.

Since the British left, the brown Englishmen they left behind have ruined the country. Pakistan needs a new ruling class.

 

[Kejo]

The history that we got taught in the last 100 years is absolute garbage, the main goal is to hide real history, for example no one knows our eastern africa history in todays Turkey, why? because we are purseing some myths in central asia that 2-3 years old but not looking at just yesterday!

Are you high or something?

 

[xbat]

Are you high or something?

Are you high or something?

2000-3000 years

 

[Foinikas]

We are part of the Turan family. That's not a contradiction. Your understanding of identity is too heavily influenced by European education. Turkey is different.

But that's enough off-topic.

By European education? Hahahahaha

 

[dBSPL]

Now that all the 'experts' have spoken and things have calmed down a bit, let me share something.

The girl you see in the video below is named Ayşegül. Ayşegül was attacked by an illegal immigrant, who was later identified as an Afghan national, on her way home from the classroom. He probably came with a fake Pakistani passport. The attacker, who attempted to rape her, got scared when he heard the voices and hit Ayşegül on the head with a stone. Ayşegül struggled for life in hospital for months.
Ayşegül passed away 132 days later.

In the video you see our daughter's devastation for life. Ayşegül was 17.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1660947777415782400

Look, these incidents have now become daily routine news. So stop taking it personally and making racial inferences based on it. You cannot be so lacking in empathy, you cannot be in tend that wanna see all these so racialized. This reflex is no different from pouring gas on fire. Have you seen a Turkish member sharing all these news here on a daily basis? Even from the most anti-Pakistan members? Harassment of market cashiers, following girls returning from school to the door of the apartment block and showing his genitals... The scale of abominations is now beyond the limits of tolerance.

We love Pakistan, we see you as our brothers and sisters. But as I explained in another thread, there is a migration crisis, which is of course the failure of the current government. This is what the anger is directed at. The war of political discourse is also part of a political struggle. I do not approve of the mentally ill racist scum among us, but without seeing the other side of the issue, you should know that these profiles flowing into our country with many pathological problems such as sexual hunger and social cohesion problems that threaten our social order are many times more than them. As long as this exists, social allergy will inevitably occur.

What we need to think about here is how to calm this allergy and how the government's faulty policies can be resolved in the fastest way possible.

 

[Foinikas]

Now that all the 'experts' have spoken and things have calmed down a bit, let me share something.

The girl you see in the video below is named Ayşegül. Ayşegül was attacked by an asylum seeker, who was later identified as an Afghan national, on her way home from the classroom. He probably came with a fake Pakistani passport. The attacker, who attempted to rape her, got scared when he heard the voices and hit Ayşegül on the head with a stone. Ayşegül struggled for life in hospital for months.
Ayşegül passed away 132 days later.

In the video you see our daughter's devastation for life. Ayşegül was 17.

This reminds me of this case:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Paros_beating_and_rape

The event​

On 23 July 2012 a teenage girl, Myrto Papadomichelaki (Greek: Μυρτώ Παπαδομιχελάκη), was found partially clothed, beaten and in a coma, on one of the most popular beaches in the Greek island of Paros.[3] Her head had been struck with a rock.[4] The authorities ordered the girl to be transferred to a hospital in Athens.[5][6] At first, police treated the incident as an accident, however, when a forensic specialist from Athens, Dr. Nikos Kalogrias announced that he had found semen on the girl's body, the focus of the investigation changed to rape and assault.[5][7]

Suspects​

According to the police report, initial suspects were 12 men, Greeks and foreigners, who either worked by the beach and the crime scene or had been seen by witnesses in the area. As the investigation continued, the suspects were narrowed down to four and police concluded, with the help of eyewitnesses, that the suspect was a man who worked by the crime scene.[8] Specifically the mother of the teenage girl reported that she saw a man, wearing white trousers and a colorful shirt, walking away from the crime scene. Ahmed Waqas's co-workers said that he was wearing this kind of clothes at work the day of the incident. However, Ahmed had already left the island to go to Athens, ostensibly because of the serious illness of one of his relatives.[8] Ahmed was picked up during a random check in Athens and DNA was used to identify him as the likely culprit.[9][10][11]

Perpetrator​

A few days later the police arrested Ahmed Waqas, in Nea Chalkidona, Athens. Police located him through his mobile phone and with the help of other immigrants.[12] Ahmed's DNA matched that found on the girl's clothes and body, after which Ahmed confessed.[12] Ahmed Waqas was reportedly calm and emotionless while describing the events of the crime to the police officers. As he stated, his first intention was to steal the girl's mobile phone but she tried to repel his attack. Then, he started beating her with a rock until she fell unconscious. While the girl could not fight anymore he raped her and then beat her again against the stones.[12][13] The perpetrator had been scheduled for voluntary repatriation to Pakistan at the time of the arrest.[14]

After his confession, Ahmed Waqas was taken to the island of Syros where he testified again before the district prosecutor. While the police accompanied him from the ferry to the prosecutor's office, passersby shouted slogans against him. After the initial trial, the perpetrator was discovered to have lied about his age in order to be tried and punished as a juvenile.[15]

Reaction​

In the days following the identification of the perpetrator, Nikos Dendias, the Minister of Citizen Protection, announced a crackdown on illegal immigrants in Athens. He deployed 4,500 police, who arrested 7,000 people in 72 hours. According to The Guardian, the trigger event was the crime on Paros.[16] Several news sources reported crimes against migrants in Greece as revenge, including the murder of an Iraqi man.[17][18]

Trial​

The defendant initially convinced authorities that he was a minor, he first reported having been born in 1991, then in 1993 and finally 1995. The trial was a national news story in Greece.[19] Waqas was sentenced to "a life sentence for the robbery, 18 years in jail for the attempted murder, 18 years in jail for the rape and three months in jail for illegal employment".[3][20][21]

Victim​

A substantial sum was raised by the Greek public to pay for the victim's medical care.[22] As of October 2012, the teenage girl was out of the coma and was working to regain her strength and abilities in a rehabilitation center.[23][24] Three years after the attack, she remained unable to walk or to feed herself.[2]

Andreas Lykourentzos, Greek Minister for Health, announced in May 2013 that the victim would be transferred to a hospital in the United States to undergo advanced treatment at the expense of the Greek government.[25] A decision continued by Greek Minister for Health, Adonis Georgiadis.[26] Nevertheless, private funds were required and the money was raised by the Greek-American community in the United States to fund Myrto Papadomichelaki's treatment at Harvard's Children's and Spaulding Hospitals in Boston.[27][28][29][30]

In December 2017, the victim's mother sued the Greek state as the €730 monthly allowance she was receiving was not enough for medical bills. The compensation could not be taken from the perpetrator due to a lack of a bilateral agreement with his country.[31] The lawsuit was rejected by the Administrative Court of First Instance and the Administrative Court of Appeal on the basis of the state not being responsible for the actions of illegal migrants as claimed in the suit.[32] In May 2021, in response to the lawsuit's failure, the Boeotia Police Union began paying the victim's living and medical costs.[33]

 

[waz]

I'd say the Turkish members have explained things well.
Thread locked now.