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HK SAR chief: Most back 'one country'

Of course, why? in fact i'm 原居民Indigenous inhabitants

One of them was your neighbour

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Article 23 needs to be passed. That is stipulated in the basic law which is the constitution of HK.

Very difficult for Art 23 to get passed in the legislative council
Current legal system which is inherited from the colonial era contains similar criminal laws against the traitors but the HK judges are assholes
 
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As it is the obligation of the legislature to pass Article 23 according to the Basic Law, the central government should remind them that it has no obligation to observe the basic law when the HK legislature failed to fulfill their obligation.

Where does it say that the legislature has the obligation to pass article 23?
 
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Where does it say that the legislature has the obligation to pass article 23?

Article 23
The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall enact laws on its own to prohibit any act of treason, secession, sedition, subversion against the Central People's Government, or theft of state secrets, to prohibit foreign political organizations or bodies from conducting political activities in the Region, and to prohibit political organizations or bodies of the Region from establishing ties with foreign political organizations or bodies.
 
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Article 23
The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall enact laws on its own to prohibit any act of treason, secession, sedition, subversion against the Central People's Government, or theft of state secrets, to prohibit foreign political organizations or bodies from conducting political activities in the Region, and to prohibit political organizations or bodies of the Region from establishing ties with foreign political organizations or bodies.

It says shall not must. No obligation, just the right to do so.

And anyways China can always walk away from Basic Law, it will only have to suffer a huge loss of face, and maybe some minor sanctions.
 
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A few things i would like to highlighted it out for a better Hong Kong China {SAR) as a native Hongkonger

(1) Expelled all known traitors who's ready to sell their mothers for money from the those so-called "NGO Non-Governmental Organization" which is actually funded by some western governments, well known as the masterminds of the "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution" to their beloved "sugar daddy" countries

Shameless scumbags like this deserved any respect on the planet earth?
Anyone who has some decent dignity and self-respect like a normal human beings should view these as a bunch of disgraced nonhuman be it even enemy of China
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(2) Charge all those traitorous politicians and their running dogs (走狗)with China's "Anti-Secession Law, 反分裂国家法" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Secession_Law
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http://www.chinadailyasia.com/hknews/2014-08/29/content_15160528.html

(3) Withdraw from the "UN's Refugee Convention", deport all those "faked asylum seekers" whom are committing organized crimes in HK to give back us the once "safest city" of the world title
I believed we Hongkongers had contributed much more than we should in humanity role

History
Turmoil in the region has been a cause of refugees waves to the city. The end of the Chinese Civil War in 1949 resulted in hundreds of thousands of Chinese refugees and the end of the Vietnam War brought hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese refugees. Ultimately, of the refugee claims, 143,700 Vietnamese refugees were resettled in third countries while about 67,000 Vietnamese migrants were deported back to Vietnam. Only about 1,000 Vietnamese refugees were granted permission to reside and assimilate in Hong Kong.[3]

A system of individual assessment of torture claims brought by asylum seekers began in 2004 after a Court of Final Appeal directed the Hong Kong government to consider all claims on an individual basis. After this decision, there was a dramatic increase in the arrival of asylum seekers.[4]

A March 2013 holding by the Court of Final Appeal held that determination of refugee claims is subject to judicial review. This landmark holding prompted Hong Kong to restructure the system for considering claims.[5] The UNHCR used to make determinations of refugee status and handled resettlement of refugees from Hong Kong to third countries. Prompted by the court holding, Hong Kong commenced in 2014 a Unified Screening Mechanism.[5]

In the period from 2014–15, the number of asylum seeker claims has soared, rising by 70% from early 2014 to mid-2015 due to consolidation of claims for both persecution and torture under the Unified Screening Mechanism.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_and_asylum_seekers_in_Hong_Kong

I believed if the above 3 points being carry out successfully, my beloved hometown HK should be in great shape moving forward:china:

There are a lot more of this kind of scumbags in HK
Anyway, if these scumbags are so in love with "democracy" they should be sent off to places like:
1. India
2. Detroit, USA
.. to experience what they wish
 
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It says shall not must. No obligation, just the right to do so.

And anyways China can always walk away from Basic Law, it will only have to suffer a huge loss of face, and maybe some minor sanctions.

So when the Ten Commandments says thou shall not steal, it's just a suggestion? In legal documents shall is binding. Just read the US constitution, shall is used hundreds of times but not a single must. No obligation to abide by the constitution?
If the HK legislature failed to fulfill its obligation, then it is not China that nullified the Basic Law. Beijing needs to first let HK understand that, and 2ndly let the world know that.
 
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Polls means nothing where the actual results of HK most important election told the real story period
http://www.elections.gov.hk/legco2016/eng/index.html
Anyone could organize a POLL with enough money to pay, as simple as that
polls are stupid and only have meaning for some people. you ask what I want to eat today. it's going to be different if you ask me next week

For god sake, you're talking about the independence movement of HK, and now you're twisting to how many seats of this and that?
The "FACT" was that only 7 seats for the pro independence scumbags out of 70 speaks volume of your idiotic claim
PS pro dem group does not support HK independence, understood?
he's firing the big guns now. He's using Wikipedia as a source now !

We have all confidences for Hong Kong and people who lived there and I have been to Hong Kong for several times. The vigorous, open and rich city is not a place which some outsiders can imagine.

I do respect some members' stubborn negative mindsets for the delusion of China and it's very interesting. With this kind of mindset for some people in the states named as Manipur, Assam, Tripura, Mizoram, Sikkim, Meghalaya, Punjab Pradesh, these states have been independent for long time.

We don't like to talk about those states and even we are unwilling to support the Maoist movements that doesn't mean we know nothing about it. Some members here really do have low logic to troll. The low logic and negative points just project an image that the dark and low mindset exists.

@waz @Shotgunner51 @ahojunk

You should take care of this thread for troll.
are those Indian states you mentioned temporarily formed the geographical region called india ?
 
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Let's say Hong Kong decides to go for independence, where is the city going to get food and water from? If China restricts the use if its airspace and territorial water, how do the residents intend to go anywhere?
 
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Let's say Hong Kong decides to go for independence, where is the city going to get food and water from? If China restricts the use if its airspace and territorial water, how do the residents intend to go anywhere?

There is no chance. Only way is defeat PLA. Good luck to those people. They gonna need it.

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polls are stupid and only have meaning for some people. you ask what I want to eat today. it's going to be different if you ask me next week


he's firing the big guns now. He's using Wikipedia as a source now !


are those Indian states you mentioned temporarily formed the geographical region called india ?
There is no chance. Only way is defeat PLA. Good luck to those people. They gonna need it.



We have good memories, endurances and also good at writing and learning history.

You just said the truths. Bro.

We waited 100 years to take back HK and we have the endurance to wait another 50 years to see HK to be integrated into the whole system.

I have the confidence for HK and our people without any doubts.
 
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i think it will be that way, i support "one country one policy":

This post is in the end by 1999 soldiers online in 13:33 2016-9-17 editor

Why the same after 2047? First change HK SDR to common provincial city, the mayor, Secretary of HK from CCP named by the central government, then establish Hongkong City People's armed police detachment, turn Hongkong police force into the unified management of the Ministry of public security, the police commissioner is directly appointed by the Ministry of public security; Cancel the Hongkong Legislative Council, establish the Hongkong Municipal People's Congress and CPPCC Hongkong Committee, director of the Hongkong Bureau of education appointed directly by the central government, all materials used in the national unified teaching materials, teachers in Hongkong are in turn by the Guangdong Provincial Department of education and training, qualified to continue to engage in the teachers' position, and increase aid education in Hongkong, from kindergarten to patriotic patriotic education.

In addition, Start recruiting and paying taxes in Hongkong, these two timeless topics must be made up!

"One country, two systems" is a failure, who cares......




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本帖最后由 1999兵人在线 于 2016-9-17 13:33 编辑


为什么不变?改特区为省直辖市,市长、书记全部中央委派,成立武警香港市支队,把香港警队纳入公安部的统一管理,其警务处长由公安部直接任命。取消香港立法会,成立香港市人大和香港市政协,香港教育局局长由中央直接任命,所有教材全部采用国家统一教材,香港的教师全部轮流由广东省教育厅培训,合格者才能继续从事教师职务,并且加大对香港的教育援助,从幼儿园抓起进行爱国主义教育。
另外,征兵和纳税,这两个永恒的课题,必须补上!

一国两制就是个失败的货,谁稀罕......
 
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There is no chance. Only way is defeat PLA. Good luck to those people. They gonna need it.

:enjoy:
They are bunch of weaklings, where they cried for the US' help to stop the HK police using tearing gas and "pointing" riot gun, yet the police only pointed the riot gun and not even shoot. What they only good for are to bully old people, women and children, to throw bricks and set fire. I can't imagine how they can fight for HK independent when they face the PLA. Or may be they will cry to stop PLA using any weapon except the bear hands, like what they did to HK police last time.
 
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