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Hindutva and Zionism hurdles to peace and democracy: Scholars

Contrary to what u say,the most developed states in India are all under BJP rules barring some exceptions.

1.Gujarat
2.Punjab
3..Karnataka
4.TN(Quasi BJP rule pretty much)
5.Himachal Pradesh
6.Uttaranchal

Exceptions:

1.Maharashtra
2.Andhra Pradesh
3.Haryana

Maharashtra is firmly in Congress hands not so much but still,AP is a dancing conundrum and might go off anytime.

so there u go.

Hindutva ideology still has a lot of sympathizers and lot of people went away because the core support group is right wing and BJP tried to be Right liberal and not right wing.
 
BJP was a big let down on the main issue for Lord Ram mandir they really peed me off on that one! They got to power but failed with the Kashmiri pandit issue also and the cherry on the cake was the shining India PR which blow up in their face.
 
The worst thing in India is that the universities,media,public opinion and everything is exceedingly marxist and they sit in their narrow well of reasoning and logic and dont understand what is intuition.

If is often seen the case that most of the successful Indian people often dont read too much this anglo phillic vomit often seen on the media and offers too much idealism to the public like fodder and dont teach them how to be pragmatic.

As a result most of these spoilt,over fed,tv watching new age pseudo-liberals try to be idealistic forgetting what their forefathers sacrificed for them to be sitting on their comfy ***** today.
 
BJP was a big let down on the main issue for Lord Ram mandir they really peed me off on that one! They got to power but failed with the Kashmiri pandit issue also and the cherry on the cake was the shining India PR which blow up in their face.

That India Shining was hardly the reason for their failure,the real reason was anti-incumbency in Andhra Pradesh where the lok sabha polls cincided with the assembly polls and TN,where pretty much every single party joined hands against ADMK and beat them by a small margin.

that created a swing of nearly 75 seats in congress favour.Thats all.

Rest is all bullshit.

what NDTV tells us to be the reason is hardly worth munching.
 
hinduism: essence practices,beliefs,rituals,idealogies and traditions under the broad umbrella known as Hindu religion. Hindu in itself is a geagrophical term but know represents a major indegenous religious group.
 
Well despite not being a "evil Hindoo" I fully support this alliance. It is great for India and it is even better for Israel. We have no conflicts and hence this is an opportunity to build a strong strategic partnership. So what's the harm? :D
 
Basically India has seen too many invasions,too many case of history being burnt down,books destroyed and deliberate efforts to create a cultural inferiorness all the time.

This movement is there to unite hindus and collectivize them.

I think the Bhakti movement was more successful in uniting Hindus. It was less about politics and more about spirituality.
 
Well despite not being a "evil Hindoo" I fully support this alliance. It is great for India and it is even better for Israel. We have no conflicts and hence this is an opportunity to build a strong strategic partnership. So what's the harm? :D
You must be an evil jew then. :)
 
I think the Bhakti movement was more successful in uniting Hindus. It was less about politics and more about spirituality.

Dude,Bhakti movement was a peaceful spiritual movement which brought unification between hinduism and buddhism and jainism.

But hindutva is to sort out anglo christianty and the mughal empire,which happened in the last 600 years.
 
Dude,Bhakti movement was a peaceful spiritual movement which brought unification between hinduism and buddhism and jainism.

But hindutva is to sort out anglo christianty and the mughal empire,which happened in the last 600 years.

It was one of the main reasons Hinduism survived during the Islamic rule.
 
The discussion is going in the right direction............:enjoy:
 
Zionism and Hindutva are both fascist ideologies.


India itself is an occupying state so it’s absurd to suggest it understands the feeling and sympathises with Palestinian suffering. It’s important to understand Pakistan does not recognise Israel as a legitimate state even though other Muslims nations do including political Palestinian groups who see this as part of a peace settlement. It may not seem a significant thing to not recognise Israel to the rest of the world but to the Israeli Zionists this is not acceptable, a Muslim nation who has the nuke openly saying Israel is an illegal state occupying land which it stole or was given to it by a third party. The Zionists see this in the same light as hatred for the Jews just as Hitler hated them even though it’s debatable if Hitler hated Zionists. This is not only seen as lack of acknowledgment but as threat to their very existence with many Israeli leaders past and present constantly bringing up the issue of Pakistan as a threat to them, the most recent being the foreign secretary who lives in an illegal settlement.

Avigdor Lieberman the deputy Prime Minister of Israel was quoted ““Pakistan is nuclear and unstable and Afghanistan is faced with a potential Taliban takeover, and the combination forms a contiguous area of radicalism ruled in the spirit of Osama bin Laden,” The Daily Times quoted Lieberman, as saying.”

You may think this is a normal statement after the supposed death of OBL but Israel is not no normal state, it will do what it takes for it’s security, International law and human rights don’t even come into it.

Israel has had this worry over Pakistan since Pakistan’s birth with this worry increasing after Pakistan acquired nuclear weapons. Even though Pakistani’s are not Arabs they are Muslims, Zionists aren’t as stupid as some of the posters on here they know and understand well how the Muslim world has the potential to unit in an instant if the conditions are right. Pakistan may be seen as a secular nation but anyone who studied it’s constitution will clearly and quickly realise it’s foundations are based on the holy Quran and Sunnah.

In 1992 India formed diplomatic ties with Israel, these ties went into over drive in 1999 when Israel helped in Indians in the Kargil confilict. Since then the Indians started to worship the Israeli’s because they felt both had the same enemy and both could work to together against Pakistan. This was the focus and want of the Hindu extremist party the BJP who fell in love with Zionism. The BBC article confirms this as some may find it hard to believe.

“It was the coming to power of a coalition headed by the right-wing BJP in India in 1998 that dramatically changed relations between the two nations.”

It’s an excellent article which also says

“When in 1999, India and Pakistan fought a war over the Kargil heights, Israel not only opened its ordnance depots to India, but provided photographs from its military satellites.
In recognition of Israel's military assistance, Indian Home Minister and a leading right-wing ideologue LK Advani visited Israel in 2000.
Mr Advani spoke of their "common" perception of terrorism as a menace, even "more so when coupled with religious fundamentalism".
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Sharon's historic India visit

So there we have the start of a love affair between India and Israel which started from extremists nutters on both sides, Sharon and his cronies aligned with the BJP, both fascists and both who hate Muslims. Hinduvita is the same as Zionsim both want the establishment of a race/ethnic state while both have a hatred against Muslims/Islam. The diplomatic language used here translates into their hatred and fear of a Muslim nation who has nuclear weapons and one who could one day potentially stand up against their fascist ideology. Heck India even voted in the UN in 1991 revoking a resolution which insisted Zionism was a form of racism.

Since then we have seen masses increase of military trade/relations between both nations which has resulted coerce operations in Afghanistan and within the borders of Pakistan causing terrorism which is later blamed on the Taliban. No doubt some Pakistani leaders are also in bed with them but Pakistan as a nation and Pakistan as a people will never be.

China is a massive power but not one who is a threat to Hinduvita and Zionism ideology, this commonalty imo proves Pakistan is the reason why India got the nuke and Pakistan is the worry. Hindu’s have never been good fighters, maybe it’s to do with not eating meat, maybe it’s something else this is why they are one of the few people to ever be ruled by a minority in history. To assume they forgave and forgot which people who followed which form of ideology ruled them is naive.

What Zionism and Hinduvita underestimate is the dormant empire which is awaking, no matter how hard they try, no matter how many killings machines they have, no matter how many Muslims they occupy this empire when awake will be far too big for them.
 
.........India itself is an occupying state so it’s absurd to suggest it understands the feeling and sympathises with Palestinian suffering.........

Modern India is almost half the size of actual India.....so YES! India does understand the pain of other countries loosing land.
 
People comparing RSS with LeT are dangerously ignorant not just about RSS or LeT ,but about India itself.

But tell me why are some Indians raising that comparison cos we know LeT are very much hated

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It's good they compare the two just like the time when donkey Rahul Gandhi made the idiotic comment on saffron terror, it will just result in the demise of the congress party.

Don't get that mate please could you explain

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Not only are Hindutva and Zionism major obstacles to peace, the inability to recognize these facts are also major roadblocks in the path leading to peace.

But some Indians do see it as an obstacle
 
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