Highest Average IQ by Country (2016 update) | List 25

[coffee_cup]

China continues to buy Russia military equipment to keep their major oil supplier happy. It's good business, not military necessity.

China has commissioned a true fifth-generation J-20 stealth fighter.

Russia's T-50/Pak Fa has exposed metallic engines. It's not stealthy.

OK so few things here. First, there is no dispute about Chinese people being very intelligent and innovative. So their place in this list is justified by all means.

But we are discussing the absence of other equally intelligent nations such as Russian. Interestingly countries such as Mongolia, Hungry, Poland, Norway and several others are included there. Since you are corelating high IQ with industralized IT, I do not see any of the above mentioned countries producing high end nano technology chips, which you have set as a "standard" of measurement.

 

[Feng Leng]

OK so few things here. First, there is no dispute about Chinese people being very intelligent and innovative. So their place in this list is justified by all means.

But we are discussing the absence of other equally intelligent nations such as Russian. Interestingly countries such as Mongolia, Hungry, Poland, Norway and several others are included there. Since you are corelating high IQ with industralized IT, I do not see any of the above mentioned countries producing high end nano technology chips, which you have set as a "standard" of measurement.

Why argue with a fool? Anybody can post pseudo-scientific baloney and draw nonsense conclusions.

 

[Azadkashmir]

I'd rather be that then living like an ape in the jungle. Stuck in the stoneage where the wheel was never even thought of.






NO. History has shown that races with lower IQs will always be failures and inferior. Everyone knows that this is true but non dare say it openly.

i respect your answer. For me personally i like to live more in line with nature and independent this way i can think for myself without distraction and do my own stuff. A slow agriculture life with some tech i am happy with. No government in charge of me, corporation or banks.

 

[Martian2]

OK so few things here. First, there is no dispute about Chinese people being very intelligent and innovative. So their place in this list is justified by all means.

But we are discussing the absence of other equally intelligent nations such as Russian. Interestingly countries such as Mongolia, Hungry, Poland, Norway and several others are included there. Since you are corelating high IQ with industralized IT, I do not see any of the above mentioned countries producing high end nano technology chips, which you have set as a "standard" of measurement.

We don't have to worry about Russian industrialization, because Russia is a major petroleum and metals exporter. Russians live a "rich" lifestyle and they can sustain it for many decades.

We can also ignore Hungary and Poland, because they have the European Union to help them technologically and financially.

Norway and Britain share ownership of the North Sea. Both countries are petrol states.

For everybody else, the only real path to wealth is industrialization by exporting high-value products.

IF a high average IQ is required then industrialization looks like a very steep hill.

 

[Feng Leng]

Turkey and Russia both are much more developed than China, enjoy better living and have a higher Nominal and PPP per capita. Some of the Chinese posters on here make me feel nauseated with their stupid claims.



Turkey and Russia both Have a higher HDI than your country and Turkey's $27000 per capita is much more than what you have. Just because you are Chinese we are supposed to go along with your false narrative?

LOL India launches satellites too does that make it more developed than Spain or Italy? China makes Bullet trains does that make it more Developed than USA or UK?Your own country admits it won't be until 2050 that it's developed. Oh and your country doesn't have a city as beautiful as Istanbul no matter how many ugly looking skyscrapers you build.



Some of the Chinese posters here are absolutely brain dead. If you point out Country A has a higher per capita they will make up some BS as to why its higher than China.

The OP is posting garbage and boasting like a little child. Please just ignore him.

 

[Martian2]

Just to let everyone know.

When you troll in one of my threads, I will add you to my ignore list.

Congratulations Feng Leng, you made it onto my ignore list. I can't see any of your posts.
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I've said this before, but it seems like I have to keep saying it.

If you don't like one of my thread topics, don't read it. No one is forcing you to read my threads or posts.

There are many interesting topics to discuss that reflect real-world facts.

If you have a good point to make, I'm listening.

If you troll me...well, I will never have to hear from you again. You will never get the opportunity to debate me on ANY topic.

 

[coffee_cup]

We don't have to worry about Russian industrialization, because Russia is a major petroleum and metals exporter. Russians live a "rich" lifestyle and they can sustain it for many decades.

We can also ignore Hungary and Poland, because they have the European Union to help them technologically and financially.

Norway and Britain share ownership of the North Sea. Both countries are petrol states.

For everybody else, the only real path to wealth is industrialization by exporting high-value products.

IF a high average IQ is required then industrialization looks like a very steep hill.

TBH, I have completely lost you here.

Are you trying to say that high IQ levels (measured by God knows which methods) are the only way to produce high-value export level products?

And hence the survival of a nation is dependent on those "high IQ levels"?

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

116 is not a high IQ.

It is not just IQ that determines success in life: social skills, acceptance in society(immigrants) and effort also play an important part.

he is talking about industrialisation and it's correalation with IQ- why do u guys keep disgressing into its relations with other aspects of life(and even tried to downplay it? just because your own IQ is low)?

Also, why dont u say it's something more about an immigrant accepting/embracing the host nation's society/social norms that accepts him- rather then the other way around.

If an immigrant is determined to keep his own customs, why migrant to an liberal host nation in the 1st place? just stay in his own homeland.


Once, my Muslim female colleague(local Malay singaporean) and I saw a fully-covered woman walking on the street(can only see her eyes- nothing else). We had a discussion and concluded that she(might even be a 'he'- because like i said only the eyes could be seen) must be a foreigner who is either 1)a new immigrant or 2)a tourist - because, according to my infuriated colleague- no local muslims will ever will dress herself up like this.

something like this- except i remember it was dark indigo in colour

u cant dress like this without expecting to attract attention in a highly industrialized and secular nation like singapore. u r gonna get stared at from head to toe everywhere u go.

 

[Nilgiri]

Turkey and Russia both are much more developed than China, enjoy better living and have a higher Nominal and PPP per capita. Some of the Chinese posters on here make me feel nauseated with their stupid claims.



Turkey and Russia both Have a higher HDI than your country and Turkey's $27000 per capita is much more than what you have. Just because you are Chinese we are supposed to go along with your false narrative?

LOL India launches satellites too does that make it more developed than Spain or Italy? China makes Bullet trains does that make it more Developed than USA or UK?Your own country admits it won't be until 2050 that it's developed. Oh and your country doesn't have a city as beautiful as Istanbul no matter how many ugly looking skyscrapers you build.



Some of the Chinese posters here are absolutely brain dead. If you point out Country A has a higher per capita they will make up some BS as to why its higher than China.

True to large degree, but also important to take the valid points from their perspective too. This topic is nowhere near a full black and white issue as many of them are presenting, and much of the actual data (esp standardisation + physical sampling significance) is repressed on purpose in vast majority of these studies.

But lot of people of all nationality simply cherry pick things with little to no context (or even a wide enough selection) and then bray a full correlation = causation narrative based on it. It just amuses me, its not limited to just Chinese though....almost every country has ppl that have done it across this forum and elsewhere.

I definitely believe IQ has significant footprint on intelligence which has a semi-large imprint on industrialisation/wealth.....but its a multi variate situation (in fact even IQ perfectly measured and sampled intrinsically is such at its core) so definitely not a be all, end all situation....and your post illustrates it well.

@That Guy

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

TBH, I have completely lost you here.

Are you trying to say that high IQ levels (measured by God knows which methods) are the only way to produce high-value export level products?

And hence the survival of a nation is dependent on those "high IQ levels"?

I think Martin is trying to say that "high IQ + huge landmass + large population = superpower".

 

[Feng Leng]

Has anyone noticed that the top 25 nations in terms of IQ are ALL either White or East Asian nations only?. The vast majority of the top 25 also happen to be the most successful nations and races through most of contemporary history.

The list is nonsense. The OP's sweeping subjective views are nonsense. You will lose a few IQ points just reading them.

 

[Martian2]

TBH, I have completely lost you here.

Are you trying to say that high IQ levels (measured by God knows which methods) are the only way to produce high-value export level products?

And hence the survival of a nation is dependent on those "high IQ levels"?

Not survival. I'm talking about success.

Survival is not an issue, because the high IQ nations cancel each other out.

In the old days, European imperialism/colonialism was a real problem. The Europeans were acting like a cartel and exploiting all non-Europeans.

China broke the "European" cartel on power. There are five countries with the hydrogen bomb. China is the only non-white nation with the H-bomb. With a Chinese counterweight, non-white countries today do not have to worry about resurgent European imperialism/colonialism.
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Industrialization is a club of advanced nations.

Industrialization is poorly understood. We talk about economic "miracles," because we don't really understand why some countries blossom.

I'm merely pointing out that the correlation between industrialization and high average IQ looks pretty strong.

IF high average IQ is an important part of industrialization then we should not expect many countries to join the industrialized-country club in the next 20 years.

I guess we'll find out if the high average IQ theory is correct or not in 20 years.

 

[Azadkashmir]

PDF members have the highest IQ by any standards.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Not survival. I'm talking about success.

Survival is not an issue, because the high IQ nations cancel each other out.

In the old days, European colonialism was a real problem. The Europeans were acting like a cartel and exploiting all non-Europeans.

China broke the "European" cartel on power. There are five countries with the hydrogen bomb. China is the only non-white nation with the H-bomb. As a counterweight, non-white countries today do not have to worry about future European colonialism.

In fact, it is US/Russia/China as the de facto nuclear power, since UK doesn't have its own SLBM, while France is struggling to solve the its reliability problem, hence UK and France are nullified from this category.

As the anti-missile systems like the kinetic weapons and super lasers are becoming even more sophisticated in the future, and more trillion of investment needs to throw into the development. So you can clearly see who are the remaining competitors in this race.

 

[Feng Leng]

The Chinese are the most intelligent and innovative people on earth.

I think 99% of Chinese people are dumb as a rock. It's a combination of sub-par education and a culture that doesn't value critical thinking. We get by simply because we managed to set up a political system that promotes pretty smart people to the top.