High cost of Indian Mirage 2000 fighter upgrade causing a rethink

[GORKHALI]

I actually dont believe the commonality theory that is going against F-16s.. It would be a newer aircraft just as any other winning fighter.

If we have a superior fighter than what our adversary has , it is indeed a plus point and a psychological advantage in my book.

But IAF STRATEGIST NEVER PLANNED TO PHASE OUT THEIR THUNDERBOLT SO EARLY BENNY.. You order these guys and they going to level everything across the border without even much of loss..they developed tactics for all these 20years.

 

[SpArK]

But IAF STRATEGIST NEVER PLANNED TO PHASE OUT THEIR THUNDERBOLT SO EARLY BENNY.. You order these guys and they going to level everything across the border without even much of loss..they developed tactics for all these 20years.

Lets play the waiting game.. December looks like a promising month indeed.

 

[GORKHALI]

Am sure even after induction say 2014 ,mmrca winner going to take 3years - 5years for training and understanding these planes before deployment to eastern borders.

 

[SpArK]

Am sure even after induction say 2014 ,mmrca winner going to take 3years - 5years for training and understanding these planes before deployment to eastern borders.

Any idea about the upgrade period of M2K .. if the deal goes on..

I would prefer Rafale instead.. they offered 40 off the shelf not so long ago..

If M2K is going for upgrades.. we are left with serious squadron shortage for sure.

 

[GORKHALI]

Hehehe agree with you ben.

 

[SpArK]

Here is that thread on that one

http://www.defence.pk/forums/953943-post1.html

 

[GORKHALI]

5years maximum to upgrade and don't worry its not gonna decrease the strength of SQN as they going to upgrade it in 8-10 per year lot..

 

[SpArK]

5years maximum to upgrade and don't worry its not gonna decrease the strength of SQN as they going to upgrade it in 8-10 per year lot..

5 years starting from 2011 means it would be full upgraded by 2017 or something..

thats ridiculous ..

 

[GORKHALI]

Hey ben did you noticed the pic you posted of M2k flying,aint it look like tejas from below lol ?

 

[SpArK]

Hey ben did you noticed the pic you posted of M2k flying,aint it look like tejas from below lol ?

Yup they do..

 

[GORKHALI]

Its natural yaar ,they going to remove everything ,everyother avionics and feed newone . Its a deep upgradation AKA MLU XCEPT POWERPLANT .

 

[rockstarIN]

Defective Fuel Readings Led Pilot To Ditch Fighter Jet - Rafale

PARIS - The Rafale F3 strike fighter that was ditched into the sea Nov. 28 off the Pakistan coast suffered from defective fuel information, the spokesman for the French Ministry of Defense said Dec. 2.

An initial debriefing of the pilot who ejected from the Rafale established that the defect created inaccurate fuel-level readings, spokesman Laurent Teisseire told journalists. A team from the accident inquiry board is on its way to the Charles de Gaulle carrier, from which the Navy Fleet Air Arm Rafale was operating.

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"An inquiry is underway," Teisseire said, adding that it is too early to say what were the technical causes behind the incident.

The Rafale was armed for a close air support mission and headed for the Afghan theater in a patrol with Super Etendard Moderrnisé aircraft.

The Rafale pilot was returning to the carrier to change aircraft when he was forced to eject and ditch the aircraft at 8 a.m. Paris time on Nov. 28. A helicopter picked up the pilot within 10 minutes of hitting the water. The pilot was unharmed.

The Super Etendard and Rafale between them have flown about 110 hours, just over half by Rafales, since the Charles de Gaulle arrived on station Nov. 25 to support ground troops in Afghanistan, said Army Col. Thierry Burkhard, the spokesman for the chief of the Defense Staff.

This is the first loss of a Rafale in operational deployment, and the fourth overall. The other three Rafales were lost under different circumstances while flown in training. The first accident, in December 2007, led to the death of the pilot. In the second accident, December 2009, two Rafales collided in midair. The accident enquiry reports have not yet been published.

President Nicolas Sarkozy is due to arrive in India on Dec. 4 for a two-day visit, accompanied by Defense Minister Alain Juppé. The visit is expected to promote the Rafale as a candidate in India's international competition for 126 medium multirole combat aircraft.

The Dassault Rafale is up against the Boeing F/A-18, Eurofighter Typhoon, Saab Gripen, Lockheed Martin F-16 and RAC MiG-35.

 

[SpArK]

Its natural yaar ,they going to remove everything ,everyother avionics and feed newone . Its a deep upgradation AKA MLU XCEPT POWERPLANT .

Avionics, BVR , no AESA, no new powerful engine.. that too for a fortune..

We should buy one brand new and train pilots to master them instead.

 

[GORKHALI]

But i still have doubts about armament ,if this is also part of deal ??

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But i still have doubts about armament ,if this is also part of deal ??

 

[SpArK]

Defective Fuel Readings Led Pilot To Ditch Fighter Jet - Rafale

PARIS - The Rafale F3 strike fighter that was ditched into the sea Nov. 28 off the Pakistan coast suffered from defective fuel information, the spokesman for the French Ministry of Defense said Dec. 2.

An initial debriefing of the pilot who ejected from the Rafale established that the defect created inaccurate fuel-level readings, spokesman Laurent Teisseire told journalists. A team from the accident inquiry board is on its way to the Charles de Gaulle carrier, from which the Navy Fleet Air Arm Rafale was operating.

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"An inquiry is underway," Teisseire said, adding that it is too early to say what were the technical causes behind the incident.

The Rafale was armed for a close air support mission and headed for the Afghan theater in a patrol with Super Etendard Moderrnisé aircraft.

The Rafale pilot was returning to the carrier to change aircraft when he was forced to eject and ditch the aircraft at 8 a.m. Paris time on Nov. 28. A helicopter picked up the pilot within 10 minutes of hitting the water. The pilot was unharmed.



The Dassault Rafale is up against the Boeing F/A-18, Eurofighter Typhoon, Saab Gripen, Lockheed Martin F-16 and RAC MiG-35.

Rafale has a milaege problem.

Pilot was safe unlike the EF mishap with Saudi Pilot.