Has Pakistan military ran out of cash?

[Beast]

We have heard about Pakistan military interested in China J-10, FTC-2000 SAM, Qing class submarine
but nothing concrete has ever materialised..

Is it because Pakistan has run out of budget?

President Zardari to discuss the purchase Fc-20 for PAF ~ ASIAN DEFENCE

Pakistan's navy interested in Chinese submarines and advance naval ships ~ ASIAN DEFENCE

PAF Wants More Chinese Systems ~ ASIAN DEFENSE

Besides money, I don't see any reason what is the delay for all these deals...

 

[Safriz]

let this money vaccum cleaner zardari go and all will be fine.
until he is on.the throne there wont be any redundant money for any progress and development

 

[Icarus]

The whole country is out of cash! We're in pretty poor economic conditions.

 

[Archie]

I think the reason why the deals are stalled is coz Zardari might be demanding his 10% Cut , and unlike the french , the chincese have refused to bribe him

 

[Armstrong]

I think the reason why the deals are stalled is coz Zardari might be demanding his 10% Cut , and unlike the french , the chincese have refused to bribe him

10% cut...oh bhai which decade are you living in ? He used to demand 10% in the '90s when he was by the side of his beloved Benazir but now that hes the main 'Man' he probably demands a lot more than that; but of course 'inflation' and 'risk' is taken into consideration as well !

 

[T90TankGuy]

trying to blame zardari is a foolish notion , one should accept that there is a cash flow problem. also rememberer that most of the aid from the US which has now stopped used to go to your military ,

 

[Windjammer]

04-29-2010 05:39 PM #1
Windjammer
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Alan Warnes Discloses
Guys, spoke to the editor of AFM, Alan Warnes today, who is just back from Pakistan after exclusively covering the High Mark 2010 from various aspects. During his stay in Pakistan, he visited several airbases including Minhas, Masroor, Rafiqui, Sargodha as well as a FOB and the firing range. The highlight of his visit was flying in an F-16B in formation with four JF-17 Thunders for a photo shoot during which the JF-17s conducted live bombing runs. Albeit most of his time consumed in and around Kamra/Minhas, he also spent a night each in Masroor and Rafiqu airbases and describes the activities in Masroor as par with any NATO airfield. From Sargodha he witnessed the effort mounted by the PAF for the WOT, during his stay he claims to have seen several F-16s sorties in this regard mainly armed with LGBs and Mavericks. Alan is full of praise for the Airchief for his dedication in leading from the front example, he was astonished to discover that the PAF Airchief, during the whole period of Highmark, remained 24/7 with his crew at one or another Airbase, personally overlooking the whole event. Clearing up the confusion regarding the F-16 delivery schedule, however four Block-52s are due to arrive in June, and as for the CFT controversy, apparently all PAF Block-52 F-16s are plumbed to adopt and carry the CFTs, but due to the extra drag, the tanks will only be deployed during special long range missions.
The JF-17 is proving to be an excellent platform and the PAF has it's hands full with this aircraft hence the induction of the J-10 is some time away.
It's worth noting that the June issue of the Air Forces Monthly magazine will contain a 12 page article by Alan Warnes covering the Highmark 2010, and later in the year, the magazine will carry a supplement on the JF-17. A video on the performance of the JF-17 should also be soon available for viewing on the publishers website.
Separately, Alan told me that former PAF Airchief Anwar Shamim, who sadly is suffering from cancer, is bringing out his own book titled, "My years with the PAF".

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-air-force/56096-alan-warnes-discloses.html#ixzz1w3MrkRm4

Above post i posted over two years earlier, the source is clearly quoted as the induction of J-10 is not imminent since the JF-17 is just entering squadron service and obviously this platform needs to be fully established before a new weapon system can be introduced.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Guys gotta understand that the economy in 90's is not the same as now...
US have lessened aid and china havent stepped up any aid at all..

 

[Dazzler]

Guys gotta understand that the economy in 90's is not the same as now...
US have lessened aid and china havent stepped up any aid at all..

Read the post by Windjammer to understand the situation...

 

[Haseebullah]

Military!you mean armed forces because subs and ACs will be brought by PAF and PN!

 

[T90TankGuy]

Read the post by Windjammer to understand the situation...

are you guys trying to tell me you cant induct 2 different platforms at the same time? is the entire PAF involved in the induction?

 

[Edevelop]

Musharraf must also be blamed partly. He said NO to when 50% of work on Shaheen 3, Ghauri 3 ICBM was made

Since 99 to 2008, a total of just around 30-35 jets were procured for the Air Force. This is way too slow...

 

[Armstrong]

are you guys trying to tell me you cant induct 2 different platforms at the same time? is the entire PAF involved in the induction?

I think what hes trying to tell you is that between inducting 300 or more JF-17s (or so I've heard), developing blk 2s &3s, upgrading the earlier blks to latter levels and investing in their support infrastructure and air elements - we've not only got the capital acquisitions part of our budget stretched but also our hands, in terms of human-resource, quite full !

 

[Rafi]

are you guys trying to tell me you cant induct 2 different platforms at the same time? is the entire PAF involved in the induction?

Well we are also introducing AWAC's, AAR, upgrading our radar network, establishing PAFSFC, F16MLU, UAV's, manufacturing JF17's, as you see we have plenty on our plate.

 

[Edevelop]

Well we are also introducing AWAC's, AAR, upgrading our radar network, establishing PAFSFC, F16MLU, UAV's, manufacturing JF17's, as you see we have plenty on our plate.

Not really. We were same as India in 1999. If you look now, India has gone miles ahead of us. They are not only producing many indigenous projects but also importing....