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thread article is taken from Radio Pakistanm sure there is a mix up in the article/source/claim
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thread article is taken from Radio Pakistanm sure there is a mix up in the article/source/claim
Oh really I thought it was a paper boat, they need to step up the pace.its submarine sir and yes its takes time
agosta90-b contract sign 1996 and
- PNS/M Khalid (S137) - built in France by DCN Cherbourg, completed in 1999
- PNS/M Saad (S138) - built in Pakistan with French assistance, completed in 2002
- PNS/M Hamza (S139) - built in Pakistan, commissioned 14 August 2006
Training, infrastructure preparation, cost mitigation, contruction...etc. There are a numerous reasons why PN can't induct these subs right away. Naval vessels generally are harder to induct than, say a fighter jet.Why ten years, why can't they build simultaneously.
Well, it's not really surprising, considering that naval ships take a long time to induct and deploy; this is especially true for Pakistan, as PN has never really been a priority in the past. Pakistan has a lot of catching up to do, when it comes to naval capability, and with CPEC + Gwadar, Pakistan is finally realizing its mistake.Anyways India's defence minister was right when he said Pakistan will take a long time to get those submarines:
http://m.hindustantimes.com/india/i...es-parrikar/story-KKUQsQOh7WPdd4M8Ydl8GI.html
Considering western shipyards time frames for building submarines, it takes the Germans around 4 years for each sub, the French around 3 years depending on the size and systems.. Chinese are kown to be faster, but in this case of Qing class 41, these are as sophisticated as one can get , So my assumption is that the first two x two (4) if build simultaniously will take around 4 years including tests, then less time for the remaining 4; another 4 simult in 4years, that is 8 years for 8 if 4 are made in China and 4 in Pakistan Simult.. so the delivery shoud take around 8 years max from the start of he project, My guess is that they will be (all 8) fully operational by 2025 if simult. building..Lets be honest,
I and most of us who are extremely disappointed by Submarine timeline were expecting all Subs delivered by 2022 at max.
Reason was, that we believed that idea of spliting 8 subs into half half for China and Pakistan was to speed up the production process. Four subs manufacting in China and Four subs manufacturing in Pakistan at the same time.!
I am extremely disappointed, its too damn late considering the fact that we are planning to Develop Submarine based 2nd Strike Capability which is also delayed now for a decade. India on the other hand will soon be be able to arm and get full fledged 2nd strike capability even before 2020. This also explains why we are ''upgrading'' our Agusta 90 subs from Turkey. The ''hope'' of operating 8 Yuan + 3 Agusta90 = 11 AIP subs is dead.......
Doomed.............
They'll get training, than Chinese supervision..How Pakistan can build 4 subs in Parallel with China when Pakistani engineers dont know a dime about how to construct chinese submarines ?
No offense, but if that is the case then let's induct them in 2050...it would be much more advanced then that of 2028....So Sub being constructed in 2028 most probably will be way advance and up to date than those constructed today.
Good thing u will at least get Scorpenes by 2028...but then again what is the advantage of a submarine, the one which has all its secrets exposed...Well we will get 6-9 Scorpenes, 6 P-75i, 8 N-subs by 2028.
Induction is as per requirement and $$ in hand. Navy must have calculated the life of their old subs remaining, time frame of enemy upcoming inductions and urgency for them to ask Govt huge sums of money.No offense, but if that is the case then let's induct them in 2050...it would be much more advanced then that of 2028....
Quite disappointing to hear it will take 10 years , should have been 2 Subs per year
Its not like it is new research , the Submarine has been built and has already well defined construction manuals
- 1 in Pakistan
- 1 in China
In this day and age. Very disappointed on the duration
When Pakistan was making Agosta , we made 1 100% in Pakistan in just 3 years by ourselves , with China I was expecting double the speed with new development machines etc
We made F22P in Pakistan in 1 year
Well we will get 6-9 Scorpenes, 6 P-75i, 8 N-subs by 2028.