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http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/52331-lch-makes-first-flight.html

 

[gowthamraj]

with which country is helping them

somalia , sudan and maldives

 

[CONNAN]

somalia , sudan and maldives

nope afghanisthan,

 

[gogbot]

Thanks A lot Mauryan for your post. Lets hope that Kaveri too gets developed
"completely " with its recent success in high altitude trials in Russia
and consultancy offered by SNecma

The annoncement for new engine for Mk 2 must come soon .EJ 200 or GE414.

The flight test of the engine is scheduled in the latter half of May.

It will be tested on the IL-76 .

 

[sancho]

Its a shame actually that IAF took so long to order even two squadrons as if they are still in doubt of LCA project's future. LCA is now at such stage where IAF can safely order 6 squadrons. This investment will improve production speed as well as give a big boost to confidence of LCA team. Also this will convince DRDO to invest more into LCA programme, otherwise LCA will die just like Arjun, a success but tiny orders.

This lethargy of IAF to push or support Indian R&D is very visible. A large part of Indian defense budget is unutilized and has been returned to Finance ministry. Its a shame that they couldn't invest some of it in futuristic R&D related to LCA-MKI or MKII.

US airforce is famous for its heavy funding across universities for future weapon systems and studies.

What Indian Airforce is famous for? For paying 50 visits each year, to foreign weapons companies and funding studies to discuss "imported" toys.

IAF will never improve its vision and will always remain dependent on imported toys.

I agree with you on IA and Arjun and to some extend on IAF and LCA MK1, but not in generall, because IAF and even more the IN does a lot for indigenous developments!

Aircrafts actually in service:

HAL HPT-32 Deepak
HAL HJT-16 Kiran
HAL Dhruv
DRDO Nishant
Lakshya PTA


Aircrafts under development:

HAL Tejas
HAL HTT-40
HAL LCH
HAL HJT-36
NAL Saras
HAL Light Observation Helicopter
DRDO Rustom
DRDO Pawan
DRDO Gagan

Co-developments:

FGFA
MRTA
DRDO AEW&CS

Besides that IAF is also pushing several weapon developments like Akash SAM, Astra missile, Laser guided bombs, air launched NAG...

The problem here imo is not IAF, but that we only have DRDO and HAL to develop all these things at the same time. That of course means more delays, less concentration of one development and not to forget our lack of experience in several fields!

We are still years behind China, Russia, Korea, Japan, or western countries and need their help in various fields(not Chinas of course )! That's the reality that can't be denied and that's why we also have to import arms and techs of course, but with more indigenous developments and co-developments we will improve and get more know how for the future too. So we are on a good way, not everything is as bad as it seems!

 

[sancho]

^^^,I fear that I might have to spill some beans here and there.LCA-MKII with new engine and new radars( mind the numbering) and new EW suite will be no way less than the top notch 4.5+ gen fighters flying today.
It will be pissing the enemy with its utter low RCS that no other below 5th gen fighter posses.Do I mind saying that MKII is utilising the technologies developed in house for AMCA?Yes I do.

LCA-N will feature so many wonderful avionic and surface tracking and targetting systems which for the first time ever been developed in the country that are even comparable or exceed the capabilities of similar systems from the west.

AWACS and Samyuktha programs offered so many spin-offs that can be integrated on the current and future aircrafts including the long range IRST developed from a civilian program.

All in all,even if DRDO promise that LCA-MKII can be inducted by 2015, take it with positive spirit-because it will still be comparable to the aircraft we will be inducting then aka MRCA.

Positive spirit is a good thing, but keep the reality in mind too!

LCA MK1 will only be a 4. gen fighter, which is not even in service yet, so let us wait for it to be ready and fully capable before we hype LCA MK 2.
I also have much hopes for MK2 but at the moment, we can't tell how capable it could be.
It could have SC, or TVC with western engines, it could have latest Israeli AESA radar and Python V missiles, it could have latest IRST, EWS..., which could make it comparabel to latest 4.5 gen fighters, but nothing is decided yet!

Engine and its capabilities under evaluation.
AESA radar not good enough, so the search for a partner to co-develope one has started.
Only older Russian weapons are cleared for LCA so far.
IRST?

The future of LCA MK2 is indeed still not clear and that's also why further orders will take time. For more LCA MK 1 it is too late anyway, because IAF clearly moves on with 4.5,or even better gen as the main base (higher number of LCA MK2 with AESA, upgrade of MKI with AESA, MMRCA), to put 5. gen fighters later on top.

Btw, fact that we need foreign help on any main part of LCA MK2 and N-LCA, says enough about developing MCA in house alone. Not realistic at the moment and just distracts from the work we still have to do on LCA. Without developing LCA till the end, there is no hope for MCA anyway!

 

[Cityboy]

nope afghanisthan,

with some help of papua new gini. .they made a brush for dust cleaning of Lch pilot seats.

 

[pogularocky]

Overall specs & shape are identical to Kazan Ansat-2RC.

Dude, not even close to the Ansat model. C'mon now!

 

[pogularocky]

is it have par with t-129 which Pakistan is going to by from American firm (specially made for turkey)

T-129 and LCH are similar in most aspects. But, LCH is brand new while T-129 is old. So, expect some unique features in LCH that gives it an edge over the T-129s.

 

[Zebronic]

with which country is helping them

not pakistan....unfortunately pakistan has nothing to help..

 

[jha]

just saw it flying near HAL....really looks beautiful....

 

[flaming arrow]

just saw it flying near HAL....really looks beautiful....

jha ji sometimes having an office near HAL is the best thing

 

[vimki]

I saw this lady almost every day last week. It is just beautiful

 

[Mauryan]

Btw, fact that we need foreign help on any main part of LCA MK2 and N-LCA, says enough about developing MCA in house alone. Not realistic at the moment and just distracts from the work we still have to do on LCA. Without developing LCA till the end, there is no hope for MCA anyway!

Help was sought only for speeding up the program to compensate the last time.So are the co-developments and JV`s.

Everyone says, LCA got foreign help foreign help but no one take pain in elaborating at what level the help was aquired, and which areas, how much?

Media thinks, it call seel few more by adding foreign countries.
One can understand after looking at the folks at DMRL and ADA working over nights to meet the deadlines.during the initial stage of LCA ,we have both tehcnology and manpower shortage.But today its not the case to go with.Projects being detailed and spread across mutiple diciplines ,one will be astonished after looking at the new work structure at the labs.No wonder MCA designs were frozen even before LCA MK-II flies.