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HAL secures copter order from Peru

The Chile deal would have gone to HAL had it not been Uncle Sam's arm twisting.

:lol: Quite right, but now they twist the arm of Peru to compensate the earlier arm twisting of yours;)

IMO, it is unfair to complain US any more on sour Chilean wine. :tdown:

We don't have much influence over Peru; so how will we arm-twist them?
We ain't complaining any more; I'm contending people's assertion that Dhruv is a failure.

Where did you read indians twisting any arm?
Dude it is US who is master of both Peru and India and by declining Chile (under US pressure) indians got this reward order from Peru when US order them to do so!
In such deals product specifications are not prime factor instead it is more of political give and take.
 
Yeah Keyser, whatever floats your boat eh?

I want to share a little story with you guys........

There is a program over here which sums up the kind of attitude some of you guys here...I have gotten really bored with some of the self aggrandizements you guys post.

Simple fact is that BELL helicopters have sold more helicopters to private concerns in India than You have sold in the rest of the world. (I tried to find the total sales but it was taking too long) but 24 helicopters to a Mumbai company

EADS sold 802 helicopters in 2007 alone

Sikorsky have many many more......

You know the Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm, designed
Israeli avionics fitted
British engine "The TM 333 2B2 is the sole production engine used on the Dhruv."
Helicopter.

With the above being said

Watch this to see the kind of mentality you guys seem to portray.


hvuocUXvxlI[/media] - Goodness Gracious Me - art is Indian!




Bell Helicopter - News: Global Vectra Helicorp Orders Two Bell 412s


One last thing.....one of you guys have countered my argument that the armed service would kick up a stink if they were given a substandard product.I guess that explains why they are fighting the induction (or only inducting a handfull) of many other products.:lol:
 
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Better not show this to RR, he'll be using this in every discussion on the history threads!:rofl:
 
Sorry for being slight adrift, but I must thank you for this great found, it may have been very popular in UK but honestly was not known to me. At the end there are more videos from similar characters.
Those could be the indians born in foreign lands who are much better than their counterparts in homeland. :lol:

Don't you know that guy? Its Sanjeev Bhasker. He's a Brit Asian Actor.

He made a documentary "India at 60" recently on BBC, if you watched it.

Anyways, getting back to topic:



India clinches first foreign deal with Ecuador to sell Dhruv



New Delhi, June 25 (PTI) India today made aviation history by concluding a USD 51 million deal with the South American Republic of Ecuador for the sale of seven 'Dhruv' Advanced Light Helicopters (ALH).
The deal signed between Ecuador Aviation Authority and bluechip state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) envisages the supply of seven helicopters in semi knock-down conditions to the Republic in a time-frame of 15 months to two years, defence ministry officials said.

With this, India has joined a select group of nations with a capability to bid for international contracts for choppers. So far, the helicopter market has been dominated by US, European companies and Russia.

The ALH 'Dhruv' has been making waves in international air shows worldover from the past two years but international sales of the helicopter have eluded HAL.

HAL came very near bagging its first international order when it bid for the Chilean armed forces contract two years ago, but was beaten to the closing line by the US competitors. PTI

India clinches first foreign deal with Ecuador to sell Dhruv
 
I guess the assertions that the Dhruv lost orders because of "arm twisting" are speculation too. And the product was imply not good enough.

I am sure Peru would love both of the helicopters as much as the Nepalese did.

Just speculating ? but cannot digest the fact ?

Keysersoze said:
I want to share a little story with you guys........

There is a program over here which sums up the kind of attitude some of you guys here...I have gotten really bored with some of the self aggrandizements you guys post.

Simple fact is that BELL helicopters have sold more helicopters to private concerns in India than You have sold in the rest of the world. (I tried to find the total sales but it was taking too long) but 24 helicopters to a Mumbai company

EADS sold 802 helicopters in 2007 alone

Sikorsky have many many more......

You know the Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm, designed
Israeli avionics fitted
British engine "The TM 333 2B2 is the sole production engine used on the Dhruv."
Helicopter.

With the above being said

Watch this to see the kind of mentality you guys seem to portray.


YouTube - Goodness Gracious Me - art is Indian!




Bell Helicopter - News: Global Vectra Helicorp Orders Two Bell 412s


One last thing.....one of you guys have countered my argument that the armed service would kick up a stink if they were given a substandard product.I guess that explains why they are fighting the induction (or only inducting a handfull) of many other products.

Nepal Dhruv crash was due to technical fault which is not uncommon.

But one can't ignore the fact that this was significant achievement by HAL. You will hear more such news http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080054460.
 
God you guys don't give up do you? You keep going around shouting "IT'S INDIAN" with all your might, desperately trying to score points on a Pakistani website.
I have been here two years and I have gotten used to a few things. Indian members have become very agile at explaining failures. And passing off small things and monumental things when they are not.

YOu have sold how many? How many have crashed? Stop passing off mediocrity as a huge acheivement. I for one and not gonna be amused by you guys blowing sunshine up each others ***** and coming rolling in.

So far the only thing thats working for India is to call something joint venture (Where the other guy does all the work and then you paint the Indian flag on the side)

I point out again.
German design
British engine
Israeli avionics
Italian gun system
Indian paint

9 helicopters sold..........



I look forward to you guys posting a thread explaining how the TATA NANO can beat a Ferrari
 
Let the games begin I can hear you all itching to write some instant damning reply..:lol:
 
God you guys don't give up do you? You keep going around shouting "IT'S INDIAN" with all your might, desperately trying to score points on a Pakistani website.
I have been here two years and I have gotten used to a few things. Indian members have become very agile at explaining failures. And passing off small things and monumental things when they are not.

YOu have sold how many? How many have crashed? Stop passing off mediocrity as a huge acheivement. I for one and not gonna be amused by you guys blowing sunshine up each others ***** and coming rolling in.

So far the only thing thats working for India is to call something joint venture (Where the other guy does all the work and then you paint the Indian flag on the side)

I point out again.
German design
British engine
Israeli avionics
Italian gun system
Indian paint

9 helicopters sold..........



I look forward to you guys posting a thread explaining how the TATA NANO can beat a Ferrari

Cant you just understand one thing a SALE IS A SLAE why just bragging about one piece two piece and all. HAL is entering in to the market. that is how a company is built dont tell when Bell eurocopter has started the business the same competition was there and they sold the same number as you are bragging. And why compare tata nano with ferrari. By the way tata and acquired the Land Rover and Jaguars. What we are saying is a sale is made, so except it yes it is made. close the chapter.
 
I"m sorry but what do you think this is? Some sort of personal feud between you and the Indian members here?

Wanna know the stupid thing SA? My best friend of 24 years is Indian. I have no problem with Indians.
However I have noticed a pattern of self aggrandisement over the last few months and frankly I have reached breaking point.
All this has been done to prove a point. Frankly I think that constant self congratulation is a South Asian trait. (Have you seen the number of pointless award shows on Asian TV?)

As far as I am concerned there is a difference between walking the walk and talking the talk. I don't stand for it with Pakistani's on here(leading to accusations that we are Indian) And I sure as hell won't stand for it from Indian members.

Wanna talk about Indian Achievement then talk to me about the Chandresekars, the Bose's and The Ramanujans. Don't talk to me about a helicopter that has as much to do with India as the Big Mac.
 
India clinches first foreign deal with Ecuador to sell Dhruv
New Delhi, June 25: India on Wednesday made aviation history by concluding a USD 51 million deal with the South American Republic of Ecuador for the sale of seven 'Dhruv' advanced light helicopters (ALH).

The deal signed between Ecuador Aviation Authority and bluechip state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) envisages the supply of seven helicopters in semi knock-down conditions to the republic in a time-frame of 15 months to two years, Defence Ministry officials said.

With this, India has joined a select group of nations with a capability to bid for international contracts for choppers. So far, the helicopter market has been dominated by US, European companies and Russia.

The ALH 'Dhruv' has been making waves in international air shows world over from the past two years but international sales of the helicopter have eluded HAL.

HAL came very near bagging its first international order when it bid for the Chilean armed forces contract two years ago, but was beaten to the closing line by the US competitors.

But now Dhruv, which has already been inducted into Indian armed forces, has beaten off competition from four leading companies for the Ecuador order, including the European major- Eurocopter. HAL recently started the process of weaponising 'Dhruv' for use by the Indian armed forces.

HAL will be supplying ALH to Ecuador in partnership with Israeli aircraft company Israeli Aviation Industries (IAI). It has earlier supplied one helicopter to that country, as part of efforts to sell the chopper worldwide in partnership with Tel Aviv.

The Bangalore-based company recently announced a Rs 10,000 crore capital infusion to boost up its helicopter division.

Besides Ecuador, ALH is also bidding for international sales to Turkey, Peru, Malaysia, Indonesia and others.

Zee News - sale of Dhruv

Its the first of many to come.
I guess it is the civilian version.
 

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