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Bad idea. After sales support of HAL sucks big time. Ask the Ecuadorians if you want.

My understanding is HAL offloaded old engines against the terms of the contract. India's first significant arms export was lost as a result. Tbh,nothing will be signed this year,maybe next then another 2 years to set up. I'm told the government at the upper level is really pushing this project.
 
My understanding is HAL offloaded old engines against the terms of the contract. India's first significant arms export was lost as a result. Tbh,nothing will be signed this year,maybe next then another 2 years to set up. I'm told the government at the upper level is really pushing this project.
False understandings.
For Ecuadorian ALH DHRUV helos , Ecuador delayed the after sales maintenance contract which results in the crash of 2 sets due to overtime airborne without maintenance.
For other 2 Airframes, Ecuadorian air force's report says that they are due to human error.
HAL also offered the Upgrade package for them but they denied for the same.
Rest 3 Helicopters are placed for sale
There was nothing wrong with none of the ALH out of all 7 Ecuadorian DHRUVs.
 
NEW DELHI, August 23, 2017 01:03 IST
Updated: August 23, 2017 01:03 IST
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...r-hundreds-of-helicopters/article19542169.ece

The Navy has begun a multi-billion dollar hunt to procure hundreds of helicopters. The Request for Information for 111 Naval Utility Helicopters and 123 naval Multi-Role helicopters was issued on Tuesday. “The global tenders were issued to global Original Equipment Manufacturers under the recently approved Strategic Partnership model,” a Navy source said.

The NUH will replace the vintage Chetak helicopters in service. Earlier efforts to replace the Chetaks had repeatedly failed.

The SP model was approved in May in an attempt to develop the domestic defence manufacturing. The model forms the Chapter 7 under the Defence Procurement Procedure.
 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...eed-to-know/story-78xJVAS4HBXLCHhB81WADP.html

The Indian Navy is expected to float global tenders for 234 helicopters, costing more than $5 billion, by middle of 2018 to replace its outdated Westland Sea Kings choppers and French-designed Chetak helicopters.

Facing a crippling shortage, the navy launched a global hunt for 123 naval multi-role helicopters (NMRHs) and 111 naval utility helicopters (NUHs) by releasing two requests for information (RFsI) on Tuesday.

The NMRHs are to replace Sea Kings and the NUHs will replace the Chetaks. The helicopters will be built in the country by an Indian firm in partnership with a foreign defence contractor.

Some of the machines will be purchased directly from the foreign vendor in keeping with the strategic partnership procurement policy that stipulates “a minimum number of platforms, not exceeding 10-15% of the number of units being procured, may be manufactured on the premises of the original equipment manufacturer”.

As defence contractors prepare to respond to the RFIs by October 6, a lowdown on the helicopters the navy is planning to shop for:

Naval multi-role helicopters:

1 The twin-engine helicopter will have two variants: NMRH (multi-role) and NMRH (special operations).

2 The multi-role chopper will be used for anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare, search and rescue, electronic intelligence and casualty evacuation.

The special operations variant will perform roles including transporting commandos, anti-piracy operations, combat search and rescue, humanitarian assistance and disaster relief (HADR) and logistics and communication duties.

3 The 12.5-tonne helicopters, capable of operating from ships and ashore, will have wheeled landing gear, dual flying controls and blade fold capability.

4 In line with the Modi government’s Make in India initiative, the vendors have been asked to maximise the indigenous content of the NMRH. The navy has stipulated it should not be less than 40%.

5 The helicopter must be capable of night missions, including hovering over sea in night conditions.

6 The navy had asked manufacturers if it was possible to install weapons of its choice in lieu of those proposed by them. It wants two types of anti-ship missiles: Long-range fire and forget missile with 70-km range and short range missile with a range of 25km.

Naval utility helicopters:

1 The five-tonne NUHs will carry out several roles such as search and rescue, medical evacuation, communication duties, anti-piracy and anti-terrorism operations, HADR and surveillance and targeting.

2 The twin-engine helicopter will also be flown by two pilots, have wheeled landing gear and blade fold capability. Like the NMRHs, these choppers will also have 40% indigenous content.

3 Few of the helicopters will be initially delivered in the basic version to meet the navy’s immediate requirements of training and search and rescue. These will be later upgraded to perform all roles. The majority of the navy’s 140 warships are operating without choppers.

4 The navy wants 15 NUHs supplied within five years of signing of the contract and remaining 96 between five and 13 years of the contract under the “make category”.

5 The navy has asked foreign vendors if the choppers can carry at sea level a minimum of six passengers or 420 kg cargo inside the cabin or 500-kg loads under slung or two stretchers with one patient each and at least one medical attendant.

6 The navy has also sought to know if the NUH can achieve a continuous cruise speed of not be less than 125 knots and if the ceiling of the helicopter will be above 10,000 feet.
 
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...oppers-privatisation/articleshow/60250211.cms

NEW DELHI: With the Apaches being sanctioned for the Indian Army, other attack helicopter programmes for the force are also on track. These are ventures of the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), a defence PSU.

However, the army should also focus on privatisation of such projects to ensure there are broader choices of such helicopters, reduction in import dependence of major components, and a long-term manufacturing capability is set up in India.

FOCUS ON INDIGENISATION
In India, HAL is the entity which produces all kinds of helicopters. HAL will also have to be taken on board for the Apache’s integration, maintenance and repairs. But HAL has limited production capability. In relation, the Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) and its two weaponised variants, the Rudra and the Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) have limited indigenous content.

The Rudra and the LCH are the army’s other attack helicopter program, which like the Apaches will be deployed opposite Pakistan and China. A 2010 CAG report had stated that 90% of the material used in the ALH is procured from foreign suppliers. Major components such as the engines for these helicopters are imported from different countries, leading to integration and maintenance issues. But these are processes that take place to move towards indigenisation

Experts believe that projects for the army’s acquisition of such air assets should also be given to Indian private entities. This will enhance India’s manufacturing capabilities and ensure a wider choice of helicopters, which are made as per the army’s requirements. All this can be done through the Strategic Partnership model, wherein Indian private entities tie up with foreign manufacturers to make major military platforms.

The Indian Navy is working towards this development by having issued Requests for Information for the procurement of Naval Multi Role Helicopters and Naval Utility Helicopters. This could be the time when the army focused on further indigenisation of attack helicopters.

RUDRAS AND LCH
The army has a few squadrons of Rudras and plans to have a total of six squadrons, numbering up to 60 helicopters. While the ammunition for these multi-utility helicopters is being procured, the final trials of their crucial Helina missiles are on. Meanwhile, Defence Minister Arun Jaitley launched the LCH’s production in Bangalore on Saturday. But sources said, “Its prototypes have undergone trials, and its probable date of completion is by this year’s end.

Then it will be ready for production,” said sources. Last year, the Centre gave in-principle approval for 15 LCHs for the IAF and army. They will be evaluated and thereafter the army will place a order of 11.5 squadrons, each consisting of 10 to 12 LCHs







 
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NEW DELHI: With the Apaches being sanctioned for the Indian Army, other attack helicopter programmes for the force are also on track. These are ventures of the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), a defence PSU.

However, the army should also focus on privatisation of such projects to ensure there are broader choices of such helicopters, reduction in import dependence of major components, and a long-term manufacturing capability is set up in India.

FOCUS ON INDIGENISATION
In India, HAL is the entity which produces all kinds of helicopters. HAL will also have to be taken on board for the Apache’s integration, maintenance and repairs. But HAL has limited production capability. In relation, the Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) and its two weaponised variants, the Rudra and the Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) have limited indigenous content.

The Rudra and the LCH are the army’s other attack helicopter program, which like the Apaches will be deployed opposite Pakistan and China. A 2010 CAG report had stated that 90% of the material used in the ALH is procured from foreign suppliers. Major components such as the engines for these helicopters are imported from different countries, leading to integration and maintenance issues. But these are processes that take place to move towards indigenisation

Experts believe that projects for the army’s acquisition of such air assets should also be given to Indian private entities. This will enhance India’s manufacturing capabilities and ensure a wider choice of helicopters, which are made as per the army’s requirements. All this can be done through the Strategic Partnership model, wherein Indian private entities tie up with foreign manufacturers to make major military platforms.

The Indian Navy is working towards this development by having issued Requests for Information for the procurement of Naval Multi Role Helicopters and Naval Utility Helicopters. This could be the time when the army focused on further indigenisation of attack helicopters.

RUDRAS AND LCH
The army has a few squadrons of Rudras and plans to have a total of six squadrons, numbering up to 60 helicopters. While the ammunition for these multi-utility helicopters is being procured, the final trials of their crucial Helina missiles are on. Meanwhile, Defence Minister Arun Jaitley launched the LCH’s production in Bangalore on Saturday. But sources said, “Its prototypes have undergone trials, and its probable date of completion is by this year’s end.

Then it will be ready for production,” said sources. Last year, the Centre gave in-principle approval for 15 LCHs for the IAF and army. They will be evaluated and thereafter the army will place a order of 11.5 squadrons, each consisting of 10 to 12 LCHs

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The Army currently 23 Rudras across three operational squadrons, with plans to raise four more squadrons. A further 21 airframes are currently under test at HAL Bengaluru. HAL will produce a total of 34 more Rudras to complete the Army’s current confirmed order book of 78.
 

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