Hafiz Saeed prays for Osama

[Ahmad]

Bin Laden had made sacrifices for Muslims around the world and he would be remembered for long, Saeed said.

I think he should have said this instead: Osama sacrificed many Muslims for his dirty bigotism.

 

[|| |\| ||)) || /\\ |\|]

Oh God Bless America

Can't believe with all of this pakistanis are still supporting this guy

shame shame

 

[Secret Service]

what US terrorism ..? how many innocent people get killed in Iraq by US forces ? where was weapons of mass destruction ?

 

[|| |\| ||)) || /\\ |\|]

what US terrorism ..? how many innocent people get killed in Iraq by US forces ? where was weapons of mass destruction ?

In a mansion in pakistan.

 

[Secret Service]

In a mansion in pakistan.

dumb idiot ....

 

[killeragent]

dumb idiot ....

With your DP and the kind of posts you make, i think you should be reported next..

DONT FORGET..U.S. IS STILL ON PAKISTANI SOIL

 

[PoKeMon]

inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi'raji'oon.

Osama bin laden hero of muslims has been martyred .Allah(SWT) will kee him in Jannat for all his good deeds and sacrificing his life in the way of jihad against Kafirs.

Why dont you pray allah to make you and your types to join OBL (where ever he is: I bet on hell).
Lets see how much faith you have in OBL.
Let me pray that your prayer gets fulfilled.

 

[airuah]

BTW, why should Indian Muslims are too feeling sad and sorrow on the demise of their hero osama bin laden.

Who says Osama is a terrorist, ask Muslim religious leaders​

From incredulity to hostility towards the US -- reactions of Indian Muslim organisations changed rapidly as it became clear that the news of Osama bin Laden's death in a CIA operation in Abbottabad in Pakistan was not American propaganda.

Muslim religious leaders, cutting across sectarian divisions, questioned the "America-propounded" description of the al-Qaida leader as a terrorist, asking what judicial procedures had been followed to pronounce him as one. There was, however, obvious unease at the fact that he had been found to be living in Pakistan and had been killed in an US operation on Pakistani soil.

Syed Ahmed Bukhari, Imam of Jama Masjid, objected to Osama being called a terrorist, "When did any court of law in the world convict Bin Laden of terrorist activities? It is only America's assertion and that of Nato that he was one. Why should we believe them. As for the government of India's reactions, I would want to know their views on what is happening in Palestine even now when thousands of Muslims are being killed by Israel with US help. The killing (of Osama) in a continuation of US interference in Libya, Iraq and Palestine."

Maulana Arshad Madani, president of one faction of the Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind, also disagreed that Osama was a terrorist. "I do not believe he indulged in terrorism. The question to be asked is why did US come into Afghanistan in the first place? Who created Osama? Americans did to exterminate the Russians. Now that their need has been fulfilled, they term Osama, who was at one point their best friend, a terrorist. It is symptomatic of the American way of functioning of their constant use and throw policy with countries and people."

The Indian Muslim establishment initially reacted with incredulity to the news of Osama's death, citing US operations in Tora Bora as a precedent where claims of his killing had later been proved false. It took statements from home minister P Chidambaram and Pakistani MP Sherry Rehman to convince them of the veracity of these reports, after which prominent Muslim leaders said Osama was a one-time American ally with whom relations had soured because he had lost his utility which was to tackle the Russians in Afghanistan.

There was, however, some resentment about the fact that he was in Pakistan. Imam Bukhari said it proved the contention that ISI gave shelter to terrorists. "I am not saying Osama was a terrorist but the fact that outfits like JeM and LeT have bank accounts in the US show that US and ISI jointly sponsor the acts of terrorism in India."

Cutting across the Muslim sectarian divide, the reactions remained similar. Asghar Ali Imam Mehdi Salafi, general secretary of the Markaze Jamiat Ahle Hadees Hind – one of the oldest Muslim organisations in the country and believed to have Wahabi roots -- said, "Osama was a puppet of a superpower, in fact the kind of power he wielded and the widespread consequences of his alleged acts could not have been possible if he did not have powerful backers. Now that he has outlived their necessity, they took him out. This is a conspiracy of the enemies of Asia and of Islam to paint Muslims in a bad light."

The overwhelming consensus seemed to be that the US would do well to steer clear of internal matters of sovereign states in which it has no business. "It is only America's contention that Osama was a terrorist. There is no reason for us to take their words at face value. As for his having been killed inside Pakistan by American forces, that is something Pakistan should get worried about," said Jamaat Islam-i-Hind president Jalaluddin Umri.

The Hindu : National : Indian Muslims reject Osama
New Delhi: What does the death of Osama bin Laden mean to Indian Muslims? How do Islamic scholars see the world's biggest terrorist? A range of views emerged in conversations with a cross-section of Muslim intelligentsia. Yet one emotion seemed to override all others: Islam can never condone the perversities of Osama, and certainly not Indian Muslims who have carried the terrorist tag because of this one man. One budding Muslim writer retorted: why do you even ask us about him?

Jamia Millia Islamia Vice-Chancellor Najeeb Jung said there was no reaction to Osama's death on his campus or in the nearby Muslim neighbourhood of Jamia Nagar. “This is a reflection of the Indian Muslim's disinterest in Osama.” Mr. Jung also rejected the notion that Muslims elsewhere could feel sympathy for Osama, except perhaps in pockets of Pakistan. The VC said Osama was killed at a time when even the al-Qaeda had begun to speak in disparate voices. “Sections of the al-Qaeda would be happy to have a new leadership.”

Fatwas against Osama

Maulana Syed Athar Dehlavi, Chairman of Anjuman Minhaje Rasool, said Osama had defied and defiled Islam with his statements even before the horrific 9/11 attacks and this was why the Minhaje Rasool issued a fatwa against him as early as 1998. “We were not only the first Muslim organisation to issue a fatwa, we also appealed to Ulema the world over to issue fatwas against him.”

The Maulana, however, added that Muslims will always hold the United States as guilty as Osama for creating him.

Manzoor Alam, who heads the Institute of Objective Studies, pointed out that far from being a fakir, Osama did not even have a degree in Islamic theology. He was never treated as knowledgeable on the Koran and Sunna, and across the Muslim world religious leaders held him in scorn. Fatwas were issued against him by such authorities as Ibn Baaz, the great Mufti of Saudi Arabia, and Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the popular Egyptian theologian.

Dr. Alam was emphatic that Indian Muslims would remain unaffected by any post-Osama radicalism: “Our youth have stayed clear of al-Qaeda and have shown time and again that they believe in the Indian Constitution.”

“Democracy,

the sole option”

Scholar Mushir-ul-Hasan said Osama had no relevance in today's world: “In the light of the democracy movement in the Islamic world, it is very clear that the only option for Muslims lies in the democratic process and not in terrorism.” He argued that historically whenever Muslims had been allowed to exercise their option, they had chosen democracy. However, once the options were foreclosed by colonialism and western power, it appeared as if Muslims had become susceptible to the terrorist rhetoric: “Now that the global landscape has changed, these ideas deserve to be consigned to the dustbin of history.”

Columnist Aijaz Ilmi said Osama wanted to give divine sanction to his message of terror which was nowhere in the book. As for Indian Muslims, more than anyone else they were bound to be thankful for Osama's death: “Muslims have been demonised because of Osama and 9/11.”

Young writer Tanweer Alam was upset that Muslim reaction was sought whenever the subject of Pakistan or terrorism came up: “Whether it is an India-Pakistan cricket match or a terror attack or now Osama, we have to be on test. Why should our reaction be any different from that of Hindus? This only reinforces the perception that Indian Muslims are not part of the mainstream.”

 

[1000VA]

supporters of Pakistan's religious party Jamatut Dawa offering funeral prayers for Osama bin Laden. (Photos/Shakil Adil & Arshad Butt)

 

[1000VA]

 

[1000VA]

 

[SQ8]

a thousand people out of 10 million..
what a turnout.

 

[SpArK]

a thousand people out of 10 million..
what a turnout.

I am yet to see a million people crowd together anywhere in world..

 

[SQ8]

I am yet to see a million people crowd together anywhere in world..

then you havent been out in the world have you...

Turnout for Bhutto during the elections..
Egypt.. etc..
Popularity is what matters.

if one was to take the logic of it all in a 1000 people being significant..
Perhaps its time to derail the thread with the "purported" Hindu extremists that gather here and there in India and spew abuse at others..
since a 1000 is significant out of 11 million Karachites..
then a 100 is significant in Chennai as well.

 

[Manticore]

No wonder you guys had him hiding in that mansion

it might be a mansion in western standard , who live in apartments.. however in the subcontinant most houses are like that-- particularly in the minor cities, where land is cheeper