Guys!!! Is Pakistan in trouble regarding CPEC? Iran offers China

[Zibago]

Yeh log apni jape se chukaen ge....main tou sirf itna jaanta hun

America mein bethay noon leagis ko to nahe na dainay partay high taxes on petrol and electricity

 

[Hafiz Saeed]

Yeh log apni jape se chukaen ge....main tou sirf itna jaanta hun

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

America mein bethay noon leagis ko to nahe na dainay partay high taxes on petrol and electricity

Zibago bhai......in ullo k pathon ka baap b dega agar hum awam himmat pakr len.....Jitna loota hai....in k pait k ander hath dal kar ek ek rupiya nikalne ko ji chata hai.....

 

[koolio]

No.

China has a direct land border to Pakistan. We don't have a direct land border with Iran.

CPEC has already been started, Gwadar has already been started. It's a done deal.



This seems like bad journalism.

Maybe this "well-placed source in the federal government" can explain how this can work when China and Iran don't even share a land border.

Totally agree with you,Its just another a scaremongering article which doesnt make any sense, China may help to finance Chabahar but the land route through Iran all the way upto China is too long, Gwadar is the best option, its the shortest route which serves China directly from Gwadar port.

 

[wxyz]

CPEC through Iran is another wet dream authored most probably by someone high on Indian hashish. Having said that, Chabahar as a sister port connected to CPEC infrastructure, directly linking "other" regional players is not such a distant probability.

kaifi dino ke baad chand nikla hai aaj

 

[Zibago]

Zibago bhai......in ullo k pathon ka baap b dega agar hum awam himmat pakr len.....Jitna loota hai....in k pait k ander hath dal kar ek ek rupiya nikalne ko ji chata hai.....

Kuch arsay pehlay mein apnay honay walay sasuraal key haan hyderabad gaya tha wahaan to takreeban sarey smuggle irani oil laitey hain wahan oil 45-50 rs mein milta hay aur hum yahaan 70+ daitay hain khi main bhe kuch areas main he milta hay metroville main bhe tha aik par police walay pakar kay lay gaye thay usko

 

[Mrc]

No body gives a rats @ss about iranian offer.....
Who is going to trade with chahbahar?? Whole of middle east is on their enemy list....
Sanctions may be re applied at any moment when iranians feel a little confident and dare to start a centrifuge or two...which will waiste billions and billions in infrastruture....

And uzbekistan is another afghanistan......

 

[SipahSalar]

Why not

 

[Ind4Ever]

China would gain access to chabahar where India will have prominent position to send its navy at will. Its very strategically places its could open up many doors in multiple countries.

But what China gains if it can operate gwadar port? Literally short cut trade route avoiding Indian ocean and Indian Navy's might.

So far India and China as a matured world powers are converging in many issues except Pakistan concerning issues. And now by avoiding controversial trade route through un settled disputed territory China could gain more trust from India and creating soft power globally.

If this new deal goes through I must say China has played its card very well . Iran Afghanistan the next huge market for both India and China.

But playing devils advocate I could see it has tactics to make Pakistan government to fall in line on negotiations and faster implementation of CEPC .

Why not

I think China will build roads into Pakistan and use to trade with Pakistan alone . As Chabahar port would undo all profits gained I'm gwadar port . India can easily check mate Chinese ambition in central Asia with Iran and Afghanistan .

Chinese are not so dumb as I thought

No body gives a rats @ss about iranian offer.....
Who is going to trade with chahbahar?? Whole of middle east is on their enemy list....
Sanctions may be re applied at any moment when iranians feel a little confident and dare to start a centrifuge or two...which will waiste billions and billions in infrastruture....

And uzbekistan is another afghanistan......

Good news is Iran already has its own nuclear projects always from US eyes.

Bad news is Iran can make India most favoured trading partners for many the countries in the region.

 

[Audio]

related:

"A contract worth $2 billion has been signed between Iran's IMIDRO and Italy's Danieli mining companies to establish a mining enterprise named Persian Metallic with 60 and 40 percent of investment respectively," Chairman of the Iran-Italy Joint Chamber of Commerce Ahmad Fallahpour said, reported Fars News Agency.

According to him, the company will have its headquarters in the southern Iranian port city of Chabahar.

http://www.iran-daily.com/News/135929.html

 

[Ind4Ever]

@C130 other maps, of same roads.

not sure why CPEC is not mentioned in this map.

Why no cpec route mentioned?

related:



http://www.iran-daily.com/News/135929.html

Wow chabahar is like pussy magnet?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

China doesnt share any border with Iran to begin with. Some desperate attempts are made to to link Iran via China through several central Asian states whos own stability is hanging by the thread and are on borrowed time. Iran own stability can be brought under question with Sunni resistance in Baluchistan-Sistan Provence where the Charbahar lies and worst, not if but when when Afghan Taliban comes into power, they got plenty of scores to settle with Iran as well. Logistically its nothing more then a figment of imagination to link Iran with china.

 

[salmanACCA]

simple reason, that route is main road. CPEC and Myanmar corridors are just refueling stations.

Refulling stations for what?and why are they biulding roads and EEZ all the way to china?they could just invest in Gawadar port if they wanted what you are saying,lungian.

 

[My-Analogous]

China mulling trade route with Iran as Pak leadership bickers

National
15 hours ago BY Mian Abrar

• Iranian president says there’s only 36km difference between Gwadar and Chabahar Port; Iran would provide safer route to Chinese shipments

• Ahsan Iqbal says Chinese investors might opt for other countries if Pakistan fails to resolve domestic issues

While political parties and provincial governments continue to squabble for a bigger pie of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), China is seriously mulling a new trade route linking Xinjiang province with Iran’s Chabahar Port bypassing Pakistan, Pakistan Today has learnt reliably.

During the recent landmark visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping to Tehran, the two countries agreed to enhance cooperation including in fossil and renewable energy, transportation, railways, ports, industry, commerce and services.

China, along with the United States, Britain, France, Germany and Russia, was among the countries that reached the agreement with Iran in July to curtail its nuclear activities in exchange for ending international sanctions.

Media reports said China has committed an immediate injection of $51 billion into Iran, vowing to enhance bilateral trade to the tone of $600 billion in the next 10 years. This would almost match China’s immediate investment in Pakistan under the ambitious CPEC project.

A well-placed source in the federal government told Pakistan Today that intelligence reports submitted to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif have warned him about the offer made by Iran.

“During the meeting with President Xi Jinping, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani asked his Chinese counterpart to adopt Chabahar Port rather than Gwadar which would be linked to a secure, beneficial trade route including a pipeline linking Iran and China,” the source said.

“The Iranian president said that there was a difference of only 36 kilometres between Gwadar and Chabahar but Iran would provide a route to Chinese shipments that was safer than Pakistan,” the source added.

The source said that the Iranian leadership gave President Xi Jinping a detailed briefing on its offer, detailing various possible routes from China to Chabahar.

“Moreover, Iran offered provide complete national unity and harmony unlike Pakistan where trade route is unsafe and it also lacks national unity,” the source quoted the intelligence reports.

The source said that national harmony and unity are two words very near and dear to the heart of the Chinese government and it is already concerned about the prospects of the CPEC due to instability and the scourge of terrorism that poses a major threat to the economic corridor.

It is pertinent to mention here that political bickering is increasing among the four provinces of Pakistan. Politicians are all trying to get major chunk out of the CPEC funding. Observers and analysts blame mishandling by the federal government for widespread concern over what they call an uneven distribution of resources among the four provinces.

According to the plan, not only has the Punjab government won the trade route, a major chunk of development and energy projects are being established in central Punjab, which have triggered a debate over the route.

“The Chinese government is largely concerned over the handling of the CPEC. They are unhappy over the fact that the federal and Punjab governments are only interested in energy projects, which the Sharif family wants to be completed before time. But no focus is being laid over the route construction and evolving harmony and unity over the trade route,” the source said.

The source added that China had already completed its part of the trade corridor but Pakistani government was way behind vis-à-vis completion of trade route on its side of the border.

The source said even the military leadership was also unhappy with the handling of the CPEC by the federal government.

“Everything in CPEC is being handled by the close relatives of the prime minister. Even federal ministers are kept out of the loop,” the source said, adding that it was a major reason that while the chief ministers of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Sindh were asking for more shares, none of the federal ministers known for their strong loyalty to Sharifs come forward to defend the CPEC.

When contacted, Planning and Development Minister Ahsan Iqbal said that Iran had already shared its plans for establishing its own corridor with China.

“Yes, they are working on it. In his recent visit to Islamabad, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif had also informed Pakistan about his government’s plans to develop a trade corridor linking Iran and China,” he added.

Iqbal said it was a world of competition and every country has the right to vie for its own advantages.

Asked whether the government feels threatened by the growing interest of China in the Iranian corridor, Ahsan Iqbal said that Pakistan does not feel threatened by Chabahar Port.

“Look, Gwadar provides the best solution to trade ambitions of China. But we have to resolve our problems very fast. Our politicians need to understand that if we keep fighting on shares, entire Pakistan can lose the benefits of CPEC,” he added.

Asked whether there were any chances that China might scrap CPEC for Chabahar, Ahsan Iqbal said China was a time-tested friend and it would never leave Pakistan in the lurch.

“The Chinese government would never leave Pakistan. But if we don’t resolve our differences, Chinese investors might opt for other countries rather than investing in Pakistan,” he added.

Tong Liang, a Chinese journalist based in Islamabad and covering the CPEC, was also of the opinion that there is no alternative to CPEC for Chinese government.

‎”Without any claim of authority as representing a Chinese official, I believe that no alternative of CPEC can be found. CPEC is not a transit corridor that can be replaced by any route that reaches the sea, it is an economic corridor that aims at boosting Pakistan’s development as a modern and industrialised country,” Tong said.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...de-route-with-iran-as-pak-leadership-bickers/

All Pakistani members and Chinese members!!! Your thoughts on this??? Not trying to influence any of your say but in my opinion, Iran can never be true friend of Pakistan...if others can tag some senior members on this thread, it would be very kind of them so that we can have their opinion on this

Meanwhile PPP full leadership in US and commit to stop CPCC and in return they will get another 5 years license to lots Pakistan.

 

[SpArK]

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/01/29/447871/Silk-Road-train-departs-China-for-Iran-

http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/opinion/china-and-the-middle-east-tilting-towards-iran_38507

http://www.newindianexpress.com/edi...-Buddy-of-China/2016/01/28/article3248028.ece

http://www.jagranjosh.com/current-a...to-broaden-bilateral-cooperation-1454054487-1

http://en.yibada.com/articles/101712/20160130/iran-china.htm