Guys!!! Is Pakistan in trouble regarding CPEC? Iran offers China

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

CPEC is getting built at all cost, its almost as important as the Nuke program was in the 70's, the politicians just need to tone down the rhetoric a little. Iran can have an alternative corridor with China, no one is forcing them to trade through pakistan but it would be better for all parties if CPEC is expanded to Iran. Saudis can also use pakistan to trade with the Chinese.

Things would be a lot easier if Saudi and Iranian brothers could Inshallah make peace between eahother

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

A country created artificially by englishmen in suits sitting in London cannot have harmony and unity because the people living in it haven't gotten accustomed to each other in 60 years.

We, the young blood of Pakistan, are aware of all challenges faced by our country. The silent majority of a country is united on all fronts. Don't take false impression about Pakistanis, you can't underestimate us. Politicians don't represent us and we don't represent them. Pakistan is our homeland and we will take care of it. In Sha Allah.

You have no idea but PAKISTAN IS CHANGED. NO ONE CAN STOP IT NOW FROM PROGRESS TOWARDS PEACE AND PROSPERITY. NO ONE

 

[Hyperion]

CPEC through Iran is another wet dream authored most probably by someone high on Indian hashish. Having said that, Chabahar as a sister port connected to CPEC infrastructure, directly linking "other" regional players is not such a distant probability.

 

[Hafiz Saeed]

Politicians don't represent us and we don't represent them

Sir g you do represent each other

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Sir g you do represent each other

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! No way in hell is that true. Sir G

 

[Hafiz Saeed]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! No way in hell is that true. Sir G

SIr g nawaz and company are not dictators you elected them.Ab khao tm b Siri paye

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

SIr g nawaz and company are not dictators you elected them.Ab khao tm b Siri paye

If nawaz and his co will go against Pak and its interest, they will be put in their place. Whole nation is watching them. They cannot hide even if they want. This is 2016.

 

[Hafiz Saeed]

If nawaz and his co will go against Pak and its interest, they will be put in their place. Whole nation is watching them. They cannot hide even if they want. This is 2016.

hearing this from ages I don't know when will you fix them
meanwhile

 

[Viper0011.]

China mulling trade route with Iran as Pak leadership bickers

Shameful articles like these are a result of Imran Khan's failed politics and the billion rupees he distributed to the media as corruption. So you'll see many "writers" without the basic education in Journalism writing negative articles to damage this serious project which would do wonders for Pakistan!!!

The simple answer is NO!!!! Iran is ALSO good friends with India and has an Indian naval presence every now and then. Going forward, it will become permanent in some fashion. India has and will be investing close to $ 20-30 billions on Chahabar and Afghanistan to create a trade link there. So there is no chance that the Chinese will do what the Indians want them to do, Which is to link up to Chahabar so that they can then pose a serious challenge to China's trade if it ever gets to it.

China's needs are a strategic port and the only way to get that strategic presence is by working with Pakistan. Last but not least, just to write fair and give an honest view of this situation, the internal drama that Pakistani politicians are doing, has always damaged the country at the end. The ONLY solution to this is to bring in new leaders who MUST have educational and law related background. These illiterate fools don't comprehend half the thing and start screaming and turning against these seriously important projects.

The work on this project has already started. You can only pose delays by negative politics within Pakistan. You can't stop it.

 

[313baberali]

China mulling trade route with Iran as Pak leadership bickers

National
15 hours ago BY Mian Abrar

• Iranian president says there’s only 36km difference between Gwadar and Chabahar Port; Iran would provide safer route to Chinese shipments

• Ahsan Iqbal says Chinese investors might opt for other countries if Pakistan fails to resolve domestic issues

While political parties and provincial governments continue to squabble for a bigger pie of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), China is seriously mulling a new trade route linking Xinjiang province with Iran’s Chabahar Port bypassing Pakistan, Pakistan Today has learnt reliably.

During the recent landmark visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping to Tehran, the two countries agreed to enhance cooperation including in fossil and renewable energy, transportation, railways, ports, industry, commerce and services.

China, along with the United States, Britain, France, Germany and Russia, was among the countries that reached the agreement with Iran in July to curtail its nuclear activities in exchange for ending international sanctions.

Media reports said China has committed an immediate injection of $51 billion into Iran, vowing to enhance bilateral trade to the tone of $600 billion in the next 10 years. This would almost match China’s immediate investment in Pakistan under the ambitious CPEC project.

A well-placed source in the federal government told Pakistan Today that intelligence reports submitted to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif have warned him about the offer made by Iran.

“During the meeting with President Xi Jinping, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani asked his Chinese counterpart to adopt Chabahar Port rather than Gwadar which would be linked to a secure, beneficial trade route including a pipeline linking Iran and China,” the source said.

“The Iranian president said that there was a difference of only 36 kilometres between Gwadar and Chabahar but Iran would provide a route to Chinese shipments that was safer than Pakistan,” the source added.

The source said that the Iranian leadership gave President Xi Jinping a detailed briefing on its offer, detailing various possible routes from China to Chabahar.

“Moreover, Iran offered provide complete national unity and harmony unlike Pakistan where trade route is unsafe and it also lacks national unity,” the source quoted the intelligence reports.

The source said that national harmony and unity are two words very near and dear to the heart of the Chinese government and it is already concerned about the prospects of the CPEC due to instability and the scourge of terrorism that poses a major threat to the economic corridor.

It is pertinent to mention here that political bickering is increasing among the four provinces of Pakistan. Politicians are all trying to get major chunk out of the CPEC funding. Observers and analysts blame mishandling by the federal government for widespread concern over what they call an uneven distribution of resources among the four provinces.

According to the plan, not only has the Punjab government won the trade route, a major chunk of development and energy projects are being established in central Punjab, which have triggered a debate over the route.

“The Chinese government is largely concerned over the handling of the CPEC. They are unhappy over the fact that the federal and Punjab governments are only interested in energy projects, which the Sharif family wants to be completed before time. But no focus is being laid over the route construction and evolving harmony and unity over the trade route,” the source said.

The source added that China had already completed its part of the trade corridor but Pakistani government was way behind vis-à-vis completion of trade route on its side of the border.

The source said even the military leadership was also unhappy with the handling of the CPEC by the federal government.

“Everything in CPEC is being handled by the close relatives of the prime minister. Even federal ministers are kept out of the loop,” the source said, adding that it was a major reason that while the chief ministers of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Sindh were asking for more shares, none of the federal ministers known for their strong loyalty to Sharifs come forward to defend the CPEC.

When contacted, Planning and Development Minister Ahsan Iqbal said that Iran had already shared its plans for establishing its own corridor with China.

“Yes, they are working on it. In his recent visit to Islamabad, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif had also informed Pakistan about his government’s plans to develop a trade corridor linking Iran and China,” he added.

Iqbal said it was a world of competition and every country has the right to vie for its own advantages.

Asked whether the government feels threatened by the growing interest of China in the Iranian corridor, Ahsan Iqbal said that Pakistan does not feel threatened by Chabahar Port.

“Look, Gwadar provides the best solution to trade ambitions of China. But we have to resolve our problems very fast. Our politicians need to understand that if we keep fighting on shares, entire Pakistan can lose the benefits of CPEC,” he added.

Asked whether there were any chances that China might scrap CPEC for Chabahar, Ahsan Iqbal said China was a time-tested friend and it would never leave Pakistan in the lurch.

“The Chinese government would never leave Pakistan. But if we don’t resolve our differences, Chinese investors might opt for other countries rather than investing in Pakistan,” he added.

Tong Liang, a Chinese journalist based in Islamabad and covering the CPEC, was also of the opinion that there is no alternative to CPEC for Chinese government.

‎”Without any claim of authority as representing a Chinese official, I believe that no alternative of CPEC can be found. CPEC is not a transit corridor that can be replaced by any route that reaches the sea, it is an economic corridor that aims at boosting Pakistan’s development as a modern and industrialised country,” Tong said.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...de-route-with-iran-as-pak-leadership-bickers/

All Pakistani members and Chinese members!!! Your thoughts on this??? Not trying to influence any of your say but in my opinion, Iran can never be true friend of Pakistan...if others can tag some senior members on this thread, it would be very kind of them so that we can have their opinion on this

Iranians are mostly acting as a former Persia empire ,china will never do,because in the end russia is also a problem for china ,even if now they are ok,but russian vision is always like a ruler.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

The simple answer is NO!!!! Iran is ALSO good friends with India and has an Indian naval presence every now and then. Going forward, it will become permanent in some fashion. India has and will be investing close to $ 20-30 billions on Chahabar and Afghanistan to create a trade link there.

How I wish my country was as rich I don't think India can make such investments in Iran or Afghanistan or both- Although it is in India's interests so see the region being developed socially and in infrastructure and India would be more than happy to see China do that- China dominating politics and economy of Middle eastern countries is good for India- Also It would help India achieve Its project of reaching Russia via Iran-

 

[Kompromat]

Ahsan Iqbal needs geography lessons.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Shameful articles like these are a result of Imran Khan's failed politics and the billion rupees he distributed to the media as corruption. So you'll see many "writers" without the basic education in Journalism writing negative articles to damage this serious project which would do wonders for Pakistan!!!

The simple answer is NO!!!! Iran is ALSO good friends with India and has an Indian naval presence every now and then. Going forward, it will become permanent in some fashion. India has and will be investing close to $ 20-30 billions on Chahabar and Afghanistan to create a trade link there. So there is no chance that the Chinese will do what the Indians want them to do, Which is to link up to Chahabar so that they can then pose a serious challenge to China's trade if it ever gets to it.

China's needs are a strategic port and the only way to get that strategic presence is by working with Pakistan. Last but not least, just to write fair and give an honest view of this situation, the internal drama that Pakistani politicians are doing, has always damaged the country at the end. The ONLY solution to this is to bring in new leaders who MUST have educational and law related background. These illiterate fools don't comprehend half the thing and start screaming and turning against these seriously important projects.

The work on this project has already started. You can only pose delays by negative politics within Pakistan. You can't stop it.

I used to like IK but not anymore now. He should use his head before others make him to do so. If he is so desperate to become PM then fool should show some progress in his KP province rather than pulling the legs of government and dragging whole Pakistan down with it.

He will never be allowed to do that. In Karachi, people were very fond of him once but not anymore now. He should get mature soon. A very childish person he is.

 

[KN-1]

Article is bullshit, seems like someone is high on Saudi riyal to spread hate between Pakistan and Iran, we have no problem if Iran want to build Chabahar.. just like Iranian have no say in Gawadar matter.. 2nd Gawadar provide short route to China then Chabahar.. 3rd we always want Iranian participation as energy source..

Anyways China is not going anywhere, all committees, groups are working as-usual, but even if they are going, we are thankful to them for investing in our energy sector, hopefully by 2018 when the on-going projects will start producing power, Pakistan going to have surplus energy and that will boast our GDP growth from current 5% to 7 to 8%..

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

hearing this from ages I don't know when will you fix them
meanwhile

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