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All this is moot. Taiwanese officials confirm David Chou was born in Taiwan in 1953.


In fact he was part of the Taiwanese armed forces.


"But an official from the Taipei Economic and Cultural Office in Los Angeles said Chou was born in Taiwan, holds a Taiwanese passport and did compulsory military service in Taiwan."

Bullshit. Must be a Wu Mao.

BTW, meet Minxia Chou.

She is a professor in Northwest A&F University, Yangling, Shaanxi.

No relation to Taiwan

So your entire point is bullshit.
No you are the bullshitter.


Her name is 丑 which is actually romanized Chou in Pinyin.

Perps name is 周 which is romanized Chou in Taiwan and Zhou in mainland.

Taiwanese officials already admit he was Taiwanese passport holder born in Taiwan and ex member of Taiwanese armed forces.
 
Lol.. I feel sorry for american, governor by incompetent idiots who killed more than a million american and we have cheer leaders try praising them.

What a pathetic country US is. :enjoy:
If I had to make a choice between China and or USA overall, I would choose China. :D
 
If I had to make a choice between China and or USA overall, I would choose China. :D
And we are glad you would. :enjoy:

But think about what you said and think hard...

You would choose China, but would China choose you? That is the greater and more important question. Most likely you are a Muslim, so look at how they are treating the Muslims in China. If China choose you, it would be for an underclass. Theirs is a 5000 yrs civilization and they made no bones about it. How old or young is Pakistan?

Since it is likely that China would not choose you, guess who they choose instead? US. They sent their best and brightest to US. Tens of thousands of them. You would not choose US to insult US, but China chose US anyway. That pretty much tell you what the Chinese thinks of your opinion of US. So as you mocked US in public, the Chinese sneered at you in private. China for Chinese and Pakistan for Pakistanis, and keep it that way.

But that is not all. We will take you even as you hate US. We choose Chinese rejects. :omghaha:
 
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He was obviously Taiwanese himself. Chou is a Taiwanese spelling of the surname Zhou.
No you're wrong because it goes against the formula: Taiwanese that do something good are Taiwanese but those who do something bad are Chinese.

Never mind the fact that he was born in Taiwan, served in the Taiwanese military, spoke Taiwanese...
 
But according to you guys here, since Taiwanese are ethnic Chinese, this make Chou a Chinese regardless of the spelling of his name. So this is a Chinese on Chinese killing.
Yes it is. But it’s the media trying to paint this as the evil Chinese hurting the innocent Taiwanese when it is clear that the shooter was Taiwanese himself.
 
Yes it is. But it’s the media trying to paint this as the evil Chinese hurting the innocent Taiwanese when it is clear that the shooter was Taiwanese himself.
Probably self radicalized from Chinese propaganda about Taiwan. It is all good in the end, right?
 
But according to you guys here, since Taiwanese are ethnic Chinese, this make Chou a Chinese regardless of the spelling of his name. So this is a Chinese on Chinese killing.
Uh this is true. But that's not how the media is presenting it.
 
If this violence was committed the opposite way, (or by someone else) the usual suspect would be posting about it almost instantaneously.
Kinda like what you guys are doing now? With this thread? Seriously, some of your dudes are acting like what you accuse the Chinese members for.
 

From across the Pacific, Taiwan's president castigates California shooting​


TAIPEI, Taiwan — Taiwan's president has condemned the shooting at a Taiwanese church in California by a man reportedly driven by hatred of the island, while a lawmaker from her ruling party questioned whether Chinese propaganda was a motivating factor behind the violence.

President Tsai Ing-wen's office issued a statement Tuesday saying she condemned "any form of violence," extended her condolences to those killed and injured and had asked the island's chief representative in the U.S. to fly to California to provide assistance.

The suspect in the shooting, David Chou, 68, of Las Vegas, had ties to a Chinese-backed organization opposed to Taiwan's independence, according to Taiwanese media. Those details could not immediately be confirmed.

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Notes reflect the suspect's dislike of the island​

Chou's hatred toward the island, documented in hand-written notes that authorities found, appears to have begun when he felt he wasn't treated well while living there.

A former neighbor said Chou's life unraveled after his wife left him and his mental health had been in decline.

Chou's family appeared to be among the roughly 1 million refugees from mainland China who moved to Taiwan at around the time of the Communist sweep to power on the mainland in 1949.

The former Japanese colony had only been handed over to Nationalist Chinese rule in 1945 at the end of World War II, and relations between mainlanders and native Taiwanese were often tense.

Separated by language and lifestyle, incidents of bullying and confrontation between the sides were frequent.

Many mainlander youth, who were concentrated in the major cities, joined violent organized crime gangs with ties to the military and Chinese secret societies, in part to defend themselves against Taiwanese rivals.

The Presbyterian Church is the most prominent of the Christian dominations in Taiwan and was closely identified with the pro-democracy movement under decades of martial law era and later with the Taiwan independence cause.
 
A woman places flowers at a makeshift memorial outside the Geneva Presbyterian Church on Monday. One person was killed and five were wounded in a shooting at the church in Laguna Woods, California on Sunday. Photo: AFP

Identity of California shooting suspect latest source of tension across Taiwan Strait​

  • US authorities had identified the suspected gunman as a Chinese immigrant and US citizen and said he had a grievance with the Taiwanese community
  • But authorities in Taiwan later confirmed he was born and raised on the island, prompting an angry response from mainland Chinese on social media
Liu Zhen in Beijing
Published: 11:39pm, 17 May, 2022

A claim by US authorities that a shooting at a California church on Sunday was motivated by hatred against Taiwan has drawn an angry response from mainland Chinese online, after the suspected gunman was confirmed as Taiwanese himself.

The 68-year-old suspect has been identified as David Chou of Las Vegas. He is accused of killing one person and injuring five others at the church attended by retired Taiwanese immigrants in Orange County.

US authorities had identified the suspected gunman as a Chinese immigrant and US citizen and said he had a grievance with the Taiwanese community.

But Taiwanese authorities later confirmed that Chou was born and raised in Taiwan.

David Chou, 68, has been charged over the shooting at a church in California. Photo: TNS

David Chou, 68, has been charged over the shooting at a church in California. Photo: TNS

It comes as tensions are soaring between Taiwan and mainland China, which claims the self-ruled island as part of its territory and has not ruled out the use of force to take it under mainland control.

Some mainland Chinese took to social media after the suspect was confirmed as Taiwanese.

“It was a Taiwanese shot at other Taiwanese, or a US citizen shot at other US citizens. But those who control the media wanted to wrongly direct the blame to us,” one person wrote on Weibo, China’s version of Twitter.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin also noted that the suspect was from Taiwan and not mainland China during a regular briefing in Beijing on Tuesday.

“We hope the US government takes concrete and effective measures to address the growing problem of gun violence in their country,” Wang told reporters.

On social media, many mainland Chinese also criticised US gun policy.

“Oranges grown in the north become bitter. A Chinese man, no matter from the mainland or Taiwan, emigrated to the US and became a mass shooter. What’s wrong with that country?” another Weibo post read.

But according to Orange County District Attorney Todd Spitzer, the suspect’s motive was hatred towards Taiwan, as he is the second generation of one of many families forcibly removed from mainland China to Taiwan sometime after 1948

The case and its response highlights the complexity of the “Chinese” identity in the context of a decades-long military confrontation between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait.

While most mainland Chinese want to reunify with Taiwan, national identity and political views on the island are fragmented among different generations and people of different backgrounds.

In 1949, the communists won the Chinese civil war and occupied the mainland, while Chiang Kai-shek and his Kuomintang (KMT) party fled to Taiwan with hundreds of thousands of mainlanders.

These new arrivals had tense relations with the native Taiwanese, and during the decades of martial law under the KMT a pro-democracy movement emerged that later developed into the Taiwan independence movement

The Presbyterian Church targeted in Sunday’s shooting has closely identified with the Taiwanese pro-independence cause.
 
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